(03-29-2018 07:16 PM)T2003 Wrote:  Looks ok to me, just a bunch of directional schools who think they are Notre Dame.

(I have no time to double check the numbers)

Total Revenues, NCAA Finances (2015-2016)
USA Today

68. Ark St 43.1M (wow!)
83. UAB 32.5M
84. MTSU 32.4M
89. App St 31.7M
94. GA Southern 30.3M
96. Marshall 30.2M
97. WKU 29.5M
104. GA St 28.1M
108. Troy 27.3M
109. USA 27.2M
118. USM 25.9M
119. ULL 25.6M
124. LA Tech 23.4M

FB coaching staff salary, incl HC (2017)
excl. Bonuses paid
USA Today

1. ULL 2.25M
2. Troy 2.03M
3. WKU 2.00M
4. MTSU 1.99M
4. Ark St 1.99M
6. Marshall 1.98M
7. LA Tech 1.84M
8. App St 1.82M
9. GA State 1.72M
10. USA 1.63M
11. UAB 1.62M
12. GA Southern 1.53M
13. USM 1.32M

Endowment (2017)

...
USA 556M
UAB 449M (googled it, year?)
GA St 155M
Marshall 110M (2016)
Troy 104M
App St 99.4M
MTSU 97M
USM 95M
ArkSt 66M
GA Southern 51M
...

Fall acceptance rate, Undergraduate, 2016 [Admission selectivity rating]
US news [Princeton Review], (Avg HS GPA - Princeton Review)

1 ULL 52% [selectivity rating: 88/99], (Avg HS GPA: 3.30)
2 GA St 53% [84/99], (GPA: 3.43)
3 USM 60% [80/99], (GPA: 3.33)
4 LA Tech 63% [83/99], (GPA:3.43)
5 GA Southern 65% [83/99], (GPA: 3.34)
6 App St 68% [85/99], (GPA: 4.20)
7 MTSU 69% [76/99], (GPA: 3.46)
8 Ark St 70% [83/99], (GPA: 3.51)
9 USA 80% [74/99], (GPA: 3.60)
10 UAB 89% [81/99], (GPA: 3.65)
11 Marshall 89% [72/99], (GPA: 3.45)
12 Troy 91% [72/99], (GPA: 3.36)
13 WKU 94% [77/99], (GPA: 3.31)

Median starting salary of alumni
US news

LA Tech $49,500
GA State $45,900
UAB $44,800
ULL $44,800
GA Southern $44,600
MTSU $42,700
USM $41,600
App St $41,400
WKU $41,300
Troy $41,100
Marshall $40,000

Out-of-state tuition fees, 2018
US news

1 GA State $29,432
2 MTSU $27,578
3 WKU $25,512
4 UAB $23,790
5 ULL $23,074
6 Troy $22,267
7 App St $21,652
8 USA $19,586
9 GA Southern $18,692
10 LA Tech $18,438
11 Marshall $17,856
12 Ark St $14,260
13 USM $9,854 (a bargain, I should go there for grad school)

Yeah, USM just dropped their out of state tuition in an attempt to draw more out of state students to try to grow our attendance #s.

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2018/4/2...-mike-roth

Looks like Gonzaga is staying in the WCC. I would assume that means BYU is too but you never know.

clt says furthest isn’t proper grammar.

Here's a thought I haven't seen thrown around on these realignment threads.


What if the MWC goes to 16 with Texas schools (an old notion) but steals 3 from C-USA (UNT, Rice, UTSA) and 1 from SBC (Texas State)?

That would leave C-USA at an unwieldy 11, one of whom is 1000 miles away from the nearest conference member, and SBC at 9.

Could C-USA somehow drop UTEP to even out at 10, and then SBC would call up JMU? I think that's the cleanest solution to that

People solving problems that don't exist.

(04-10-2018 01:18 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Here's a thought I haven't seen thrown around on these realignment threads.


What if the MWC goes to 16 with Texas schools (an old notion) but steals 3 from C-USA (UNT, Rice, UTSA) and 1 from SBC (Texas State)?..

UTEP had a shot due to the Gonzaga-BYU gambit. but that fell through.

The only way the MWC expands into Texas now is with Houston and SMU. They will not waste time on anyone else.

(04-10-2018 03:15 PM)CAJUNNATION Wrote:  

(04-10-2018 01:18 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Here's a thought I haven't seen thrown around on these realignment threads.


What if the MWC goes to 16 with Texas schools (an old notion) but steals 3 from C-USA (UNT, Rice, UTSA) and 1 from SBC (Texas State)?..

UTEP had a shot due to the Gonzaga-BYU gambit. but that fell through.

The only way the MWC expands into Texas now is with Houston and SMU. They will not waste time on anyone else.

I get why the MWC might want to add Houston or SMU . . . .

But why the hell would two schools from "The Mighty P6 American Conference" want to take a step down to the MWC?

(04-10-2018 07:48 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  I get why the MWC might want to add Houston or SMU . . . .

But why the hell would two schools from "The Mighty P6 American Conference" want to take a step down to the MWC?

Not saying they want to leave the AAC. Just saying that if the MWC ever adds from Texas, it will only be those two.

They have no reason to leave now, but if the AAC were to lose a few schools from the east for some reason, I could see UH and SMU looking for greener pastures.

New League:

East
Troy Trojans
Appalachian State Mountaineers
South Alabama Jaguars
Georgia State Panthers
Georgia Southern Eagles
UAB Blazers
Western Kentucky Hilltoppers
Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders


West
Arkansas State Red Wolves
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Texas State Bobcats
North Texas Mean Green
Louisiana Tech Bulldogs
UT San Antonio Roadrunners
Rice Owls
Southern Mississippi Golden Eagles




Drop to FCS
Old Dominion Monarchs
Charlotte 49ers
Florida Atlantic Owls
Florida Intl Golden Panthers
Louisiana Monroe Warhawks
Coastal Carolina Chanticleers

Boot out
UTEP Miners
Marshall Thundering Herd

(04-11-2018 09:51 AM)Artemis Silver Bow Wrote:  New League:

East
Troy Trojans
Appalachian State Mountaineers
South Alabama Jaguars
Georgia State Panthers
Georgia Southern Eagles
UAB Blazers
Western Kentucky Hilltoppers
Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders


West
Arkansas State Red Wolves
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Texas State Bobcats
North Texas Mean Green
Louisiana Tech Bulldogs
UT San Antonio Roadrunners
Rice Owls
Southern Mississippi Golden Eagles




Drop to FCS
Old Dominion Monarchs
Charlotte 49ers
Florida Atlantic Owls
Florida Intl Golden Panthers
Louisiana Monroe Warhawks
Coastal Carolina Chanticleers

Boot out
UTEP Miners
Marshall Thundering Herd

Lol FAU should drop to FCS? It took a us 15 years to surpass what Troy has done in 100. We’re not going anywhere, get used to it.

(04-11-2018 06:39 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  Lol FAU should drop to FCS? It took a us 15 years to surpass what Troy has done in 100. We’re not going anywhere, get used to it.

I wouldn't say FAU should drop to FBS, personally. They've made a serious commitment/investment to compete in the FBS.

I wouldn't say you've surpassed Troy either, or even matched them. Not because FAU isn't good, but Troy has a steep history and has accomplished a lot for not being in a "market".

(04-11-2018 07:02 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 06:39 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  Lol FAU should drop to FCS? It took a us 15 years to surpass what Troy has done in 100. We’re not going anywhere, get used to it.

I wouldn't say FAU should drop to FBS, personally. They've made a serious commitment/investment to compete in the FBS.

I wouldn't say you've surpassed Troy either, or even matched them. Not because FAU isn't good, but Troy has a steep history and has accomplished a lot for not being in a "market".

Your steep history is only remembered by people over 40, we have passed you. In 20 years we will be a top G5 school getting ready for the jump to the P5.

(04-11-2018 07:47 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 07:02 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 06:39 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  Lol FAU should drop to FCS? It took a us 15 years to surpass what Troy has done in 100. We’re not going anywhere, get used to it.

I wouldn't say FAU should drop to FBS, personally. They've made a serious commitment/investment to compete in the FBS.

I wouldn't say you've surpassed Troy either, or even matched them. Not because FAU isn't good, but Troy has a steep history and has accomplished a lot for not being in a "market".

Your steep history is only remembered by people over 40, we have passed you. In 20 years we will be a top G5 school getting ready for the jump to the P5.

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(04-11-2018 08:14 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 07:47 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 07:02 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 06:39 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  Lol FAU should drop to FCS? It took a us 15 years to surpass what Troy has done in 100. We’re not going anywhere, get used to it.

I wouldn't say FAU should drop to FBS, personally. They've made a serious commitment/investment to compete in the FBS.

I wouldn't say you've surpassed Troy either, or even matched them. Not because FAU isn't good, but Troy has a steep history and has accomplished a lot for not being in a "market".

Your steep history is only remembered by people over 40, we have passed you. In 20 years we will be a top G5 school getting ready for the jump to the P5.

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Ill play nice...

Troy’s history is great, but history is for the older generation. Millennials and Gen X-ers do not remember 100 years of history. As your program grows older, the value of your past history diminishes. It’s all about the future, which FAU will dominate.

History repeats itself.

(04-11-2018 08:22 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 08:14 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 07:47 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 07:02 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 06:39 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  Lol FAU should drop to FCS? It took a us 15 years to surpass what Troy has done in 100. We’re not going anywhere, get used to it.

I wouldn't say FAU should drop to FBS, personally. They've made a serious commitment/investment to compete in the FBS.

I wouldn't say you've surpassed Troy either, or even matched them. Not because FAU isn't good, but Troy has a steep history and has accomplished a lot for not being in a "market".

Your steep history is only remembered by people over 40, we have passed you. In 20 years we will be a top G5 school getting ready for the jump to the P5.

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Ill play nice...

Troy’s history is great, but history is for the older generation. Millennials and Gen X-ers do not remember 100 years of history. As your program grows older, the value of your past history diminishes. It’s all about the future, which FAU will dominate.

So programs like Notre Dame, Michigan, Southern Cal, Alabama, Army, etc. who have a long and storied history are Has Beens and have no future like upstart FAU . . .

History/tradition is nice to have.....but it's overrated especially at the G5 level. Regardless, both Troy and FAU are trending upwards for sure.

(04-11-2018 08:41 PM)DoubletapWolf Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 08:22 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 08:14 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 07:47 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(04-11-2018 07:02 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I wouldn't say FAU should drop to FBS, personally. They've made a serious commitment/investment to compete in the FBS.

I wouldn't say you've surpassed Troy either, or even matched them. Not because FAU isn't good, but Troy has a steep history and has accomplished a lot for not being in a "market".

Your steep history is only remembered by people over 40, we have passed you. In 20 years we will be a top G5 school getting ready for the jump to the P5.

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Ill play nice...

Troy’s history is great, but history is for the older generation. Millennials and Gen X-ers do not remember 100 years of history. As your program grows older, the value of your past history diminishes. It’s all about the future, which FAU will dominate.

So programs like Notre Dame, Michigan, Southern Cal, Alabama, Army, etc. who have a long and storied history are Has Beens and have no future like upstart FAU . . .

You twist words quicker than a politician.

Obviously Notre Dame, Alabama, So Cal, etc are still winners and they have been for the past 40 years.

(04-11-2018 08:39 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  History repeats itself.

Which is exactly why FAU will get called up again. It only makes sense, historically speaking.

(04-11-2018 07:47 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  Your steep history is only remembered by people over 40, we have passed you. In 20 years we will be a top G5 school getting ready for the jump to the P5.

You're joking, right? I really hope you're being sarcastic.

(04-11-2018 08:22 PM)Seminowl Wrote:  Ill play nice...

Troy’s history is great, but history is for the older generation. Millennials and Gen X-ers do not remember 100 years of history. As your program grows older, the value of your past history diminishes. It’s all about the future, which FAU will dominate.

You're right that Millennials and Gen X-ers do not remember 100 years of history. They don't know much about any kind of history actually, except remembering who Liked their Facebook picture 15 minutes ago.