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RE: MTSU THREAD
(02-25-2018 04:33 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 04:22 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Watching the game, last night, I saw Nick Norton trying to guard Giddy Potts man to man. Oh gosh! Potts is such a good athlete at 6'2" and 220 pounds. Nick is a great point guard but...I think Coach needs to re-think his strategy of who is going to guard Giddy Potts if and/or when UAB happens to play MTSU again in the Conference Tournament.

No doubt in my mind it has to be Perry or Bryant. I'm not sure Nick has the foot speed to cover anybody else though. The one thing Potts isn't is fast.
He may not be fast on fast break but he sure is fast on catch and shoot. Speaking of catch and shoot, last night Darling caught a pass in the corner and dipped the ball below his belt line before bringing it up to shoot and it gave the defensive man time to close in for the blocked shot. Darling needs to get better and quicker on his catch and release.
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RE: MTSU THREAD
(02-25-2018 05:14 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 04:33 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 04:22 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Watching the game, last night, I saw Nick Norton trying to guard Giddy Potts man to man. Oh gosh! Potts is such a good athlete at 6'2" and 220 pounds. Nick is a great point guard but...I think Coach needs to re-think his strategy of who is going to guard Giddy Potts if and/or when UAB happens to play MTSU again in the Conference Tournament.

No doubt in my mind it has to be Perry or Bryant. I'm not sure Nick has the foot speed to cover anybody else though. The one thing Potts isn't is fast.
He may not be fast on fast break but he sure is fast on catch and shoot. Speaking of catch and shoot, last night Darling caught a pass in the corner and dipped the ball below his belt line before bringing it up to shoot and it gave the defensive man time to close in for the blocked shot. Darling needs to get better and quicker on his catch and release.
I remember seeing his HS highlights and noticing that. I said that I was worried about his shooting motion and release.
I got a bunch of angry “who cares what it looks like as long as it goes in” comments.

That was my point, I was worried about his ability to get the shot off against college defenders. That having been said, I think his shooting motion has improved greatly since then
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RE: MTSU THREAD
(02-25-2018 05:37 PM)LairDweller Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 05:14 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 04:33 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 04:22 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Watching the game, last night, I saw Nick Norton trying to guard Giddy Potts man to man. Oh gosh! Potts is such a good athlete at 6'2" and 220 pounds. Nick is a great point guard but...I think Coach needs to re-think his strategy of who is going to guard Giddy Potts if and/or when UAB happens to play MTSU again in the Conference Tournament.

No doubt in my mind it has to be Perry or Bryant. I'm not sure Nick has the foot speed to cover anybody else though. The one thing Potts isn't is fast.
He may not be fast on fast break but he sure is fast on catch and shoot. Speaking of catch and shoot, last night Darling caught a pass in the corner and dipped the ball below his belt line before bringing it up to shoot and it gave the defensive man time to close in for the blocked shot. Darling needs to get better and quicker on his catch and release.
I remember seeing his HS highlights and noticing that. I said that I was worried about his shooting motion and release.
I got a bunch of angry “who cares what it looks like as long as it goes in” comments.

That was my point, I was worried about his ability to get the shot off against college defenders. That having been said, I think his shooting motion has improved greatly since then

That can't be true, says the No One Has Improved Under Ehsan Club.
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RE: MTSU THREAD
(02-25-2018 05:37 PM)LairDweller Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 05:14 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 04:33 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 04:22 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Watching the game, last night, I saw Nick Norton trying to guard Giddy Potts man to man. Oh gosh! Potts is such a good athlete at 6'2" and 220 pounds. Nick is a great point guard but...I think Coach needs to re-think his strategy of who is going to guard Giddy Potts if and/or when UAB happens to play MTSU again in the Conference Tournament.

No doubt in my mind it has to be Perry or Bryant. I'm not sure Nick has the foot speed to cover anybody else though. The one thing Potts isn't is fast.
He may not be fast on fast break but he sure is fast on catch and shoot. Speaking of catch and shoot, last night Darling caught a pass in the corner and dipped the ball below his belt line before bringing it up to shoot and it gave the defensive man time to close in for the blocked shot. Darling needs to get better and quicker on his catch and release.
I remember seeing his HS highlights and noticing that. I said that I was worried about his shooting motion and release.
I got a bunch of angry “who cares what it looks like as long as it goes in” comments.

That was my point, I was worried about his ability to get the shot off against college defenders. That having been said, I think his shooting motion has improved greatly since then

I think Darling was more affected by the hard landing after being fouled on the layup than we know, or that he let on.
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RE: MTSU THREAD
(02-25-2018 05:51 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 05:37 PM)LairDweller Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 05:14 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 04:33 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 04:22 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Watching the game, last night, I saw Nick Norton trying to guard Giddy Potts man to man. Oh gosh! Potts is such a good athlete at 6'2" and 220 pounds. Nick is a great point guard but...I think Coach needs to re-think his strategy of who is going to guard Giddy Potts if and/or when UAB happens to play MTSU again in the Conference Tournament.

No doubt in my mind it has to be Perry or Bryant. I'm not sure Nick has the foot speed to cover anybody else though. The one thing Potts isn't is fast.
He may not be fast on fast break but he sure is fast on catch and shoot. Speaking of catch and shoot, last night Darling caught a pass in the corner and dipped the ball below his belt line before bringing it up to shoot and it gave the defensive man time to close in for the blocked shot. Darling needs to get better and quicker on his catch and release.
I remember seeing his HS highlights and noticing that. I said that I was worried about his shooting motion and release.
I got a bunch of angry “who cares what it looks like as long as it goes in” comments.

That was my point, I was worried about his ability to get the shot off against college defenders. That having been said, I think his shooting motion has improved greatly since then

I think Darling was more affected by the hard landing after being fouled on the layup than we know, or that he let on.

He had an injured back and was wearing a brace earlier in the season
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RE: MTSU THREAD
(02-25-2018 02:51 PM)BlazintheATL Wrote:  The record means very little when we haven't beaten anyone who matches or exceeds our talent level and we've lost to several teams with less talent. I'm pretty sure we could take nearly any high school basketball coach, put him or her on the bench, and they could get the same record with this team against this schedule.

THAT...

The Ehsan apologists are simply whistling as they stroll past the graveyard at night...let the same dullards who cried, "Keep the team together" and now cry "Give him until year 3 or 4" get their way...at that point this years team will be remembered as the good ole days
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RE: MTSU THREAD
(02-25-2018 06:24 PM)Dragonz Lair Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 02:51 PM)BlazintheATL Wrote:  The record means very little when we haven't beaten anyone who matches or exceeds our talent level and we've lost to several teams with less talent. I'm pretty sure we could take nearly any high school basketball coach, put him or her on the bench, and they could get the same record with this team against this schedule.

THAT...

The Ehsan apologists are simply whistling as they stroll past the graveyard at night...let the same dullards who cried, "Keep the team together" and now cry "Give him until year 3 or 4" get their way...at that point this years team will be remembered as the good ole days

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RE: MTSU THREAD
The MTSU defense at the opening of game was stifling. UAB made no adjustment and the game was over after the first eight minutes.
I'd hope UAB will be competitive this week at home against Marshall and Wky. And maybe have a chance to win a game at the tournament?
Does anything change if we see two more blowout losses this week and a first round tournament loss?
UAB has way too much talent even with the injuries to not be competitive.
The coaches need to show an ability to make adjustments.
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RE: MTSU THREAD
(02-25-2018 04:13 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
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(02-25-2018 02:21 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Blazer fans need to reassess how talented this team actually is. Talented players can overcome bad coaching (if that is what it is). You judge talent by results, not by recruiting stars.

Yes and good coaching can get average players to play hard every time they hit the court. In fact that is the first thing you expect from any coach: to get consistent effort.. You call out fans for attacking the coach but it seems ok to call the entire team quitters. You will be the first one to say you thought he was a bad coach once he is gone (like you did Davis).

Ehsan was not hired because he was already a good coach. He was hired because he had potential to be a good coach. Fans have to be patient. He may turn out to be a good coach. Certainly looks like he is a good recruiter. But two years is not enough time.

Regarding Davis. The day he was hired, I posted here that it was a horrible hire and caught quite a bit of flack on the board because everyone was giddy that we had hired a "big name". I was one of his harshest critics early on regarding failure to advance in the tournament, the Cousins fiasco, and the academic issues. I called for him to be fired. At some point in his career, I decided that since I don't have enough clout to get a coach fired, it does no good to trash him publicly during the season. Calling for a coaches head midseason does not do anything to help the team. It just creates more angst and turmoil. That has been my stance ever since.

Regarding Ehsan, after he is gone, who knows how I will feel. Too early to tell. But for now, he is the coach and I support him.

So you called for Davis to be fired, you admit you were an early critic... so why are you giving people fits for doing the same to Ehsan?
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RE: MTSU THREAD
(02-25-2018 04:13 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 04:01 PM)randy22263 Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 02:21 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Blazer fans need to reassess how talented this team actually is. Talented players can overcome bad coaching (if that is what it is). You judge talent by results, not by recruiting stars.

Yes and good coaching can get average players to play hard every time they hit the court. In fact that is the first thing you expect from any coach: to get consistent effort.. You call out fans for attacking the coach but it seems ok to call the entire team quitters. You will be the first one to say you thought he was a bad coach once he is gone (like you did Davis).

Ehsan was not hired because he was already a good coach. He was hired because he had potential to be a good coach. Fans have to be patient. He may turn out to be a good coach. Certainly looks like he is a good recruiter. But two years is not enough time.

Regarding Davis. The day he was hired, I posted here that it was a horrible hire and caught quite a bit of flack on the board because everyone was giddy that we had hired a "big name". I was one of his harshest critics early on regarding failure to advance in the tournament, the Cousins fiasco, and the academic issues. I called for him to be fired. At some point in his career, I decided that since I don't have enough clout to get a coach fired, it does no good to trash him publicly during the season. Calling for a coaches head midseason does not do anything to help the team. It just creates more angst and turmoil. That has been my stance ever since.

Regarding Ehsan, after he is gone, who knows how I will feel. Too early to tell. But for now, he is the coach and I support him.

The movement to hire Ehsan was NOT because he had potential to be a good coach. It was CLEARLY stated on this board and social media, that hiring Ehsan would keep the talented team intact and Ehsan would simply pick up where Haase left off. I will pull the posts if you like.
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So you think he was hired because he had no potential to be a good coach? BS. He was hired for the reason you stated and they felt he was a good recruiter and had potential.
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(02-25-2018 07:47 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  So you think he was hired because he had no potential to be a good coach? BS. He was hired for the reason you stated and they felt he was a good recruiter and had potential.

It seemed like you were sayin fans knew we would have major growing pains with Ehsan. That isn’t true. Most fans pulling for Ehsan thought he would pick up where Haase left off. Realistic or not, that’s what we thought.
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RE: MTSU THREAD
I thought Ehsan was hired bc we said so and that’s why the admin and ath. dept has put zero effort into promoting and improving our program. If that’s not the case, then I’ll quit acting like it’s my fault.....

Again, if Ingram hired who he wanted, we’d be under fbi investigations.

Excluding the ‘15-16 season, over “the last 6 seasons” from what I gathered from espn.

Our regular season record has been 96-85
Conference record is 52-48

We cannot afford another sub .500 season next year. this is why we set Ehsans buyout so low. I’m ready to clean house too, and admit I was wrong for trying to force this hire.
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(02-25-2018 07:41 PM)ICB Wrote:  So you called for Davis to be fired, you admit you were an early critic... so why are you giving people fits for doing the same to Ehsan?

Mike Davis committed multiple firing offenses; a 38-0 record and a banner would not change that. He should have been fired - or at the very least had his fingers forcibly amputated so he could no longer text - well before Mackin pulled the trigger.

All Ehsan's done is lose a bunch of basketball games he should have won. Not on the same plane.
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(02-25-2018 08:04 PM)BlazinBham Wrote:  Again, if Ingram hired who he wanted, we’d be under fbi investigations.

This is worth repeating. Beyond the criminality, every one of us knows that bammer isn't going to be the NCAA's sacrificial goat in this.
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(02-25-2018 07:44 PM)ICB Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 04:13 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 04:01 PM)randy22263 Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 02:21 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Blazer fans need to reassess how talented this team actually is. Talented players can overcome bad coaching (if that is what it is). You judge talent by results, not by recruiting stars.

Yes and good coaching can get average players to play hard every time they hit the court. In fact that is the first thing you expect from any coach: to get consistent effort.. You call out fans for attacking the coach but it seems ok to call the entire team quitters. You will be the first one to say you thought he was a bad coach once he is gone (like you did Davis).

Ehsan was not hired because he was already a good coach. He was hired because he had potential to be a good coach. Fans have to be patient. He may turn out to be a good coach. Certainly looks like he is a good recruiter. But two years is not enough time.

Regarding Davis. The day he was hired, I posted here that it was a horrible hire and caught quite a bit of flack on the board because everyone was giddy that we had hired a "big name". I was one of his harshest critics early on regarding failure to advance in the tournament, the Cousins fiasco, and the academic issues. I called for him to be fired. At some point in his career, I decided that since I don't have enough clout to get a coach fired, it does no good to trash him publicly during the season. Calling for a coaches head midseason does not do anything to help the team. It just creates more angst and turmoil. That has been my stance ever since.

Regarding Ehsan, after he is gone, who knows how I will feel. Too early to tell. But for now, he is the coach and I support him.

The movement to hire Ehsan was NOT because he had potential to be a good coach. It was CLEARLY stated on this board and social media, that hiring Ehsan would keep the talented team intact and Ehsan would simply pick up where Haase left off. I will pull the posts if you like.

If you've got nothing but time, I'm sure we will be all ears.

Your gifts of hindsight and reading between the lines will astound us I'm sure.
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RE: MTSU THREAD
(02-25-2018 08:03 PM)ICB Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 07:47 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  So you think he was hired because he had no potential to be a good coach? BS. He was hired for the reason you stated and they felt he was a good recruiter and had potential.

It seemed like you were sayin fans knew we would have major growing pains with Ehsan. That isn’t true. Most fans pulling for Ehsan thought he would pick up where Haase left off. Realistic or not, that’s what we thought.

We also thought Nick would be healthy and Dirk would be Rob Brown 2.0 . How'd that work out ?
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(02-25-2018 08:03 PM)ICB Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 07:47 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  So you think he was hired because he had no potential to be a good coach? BS. He was hired for the reason you stated and they felt he was a good recruiter and had potential.

It seemed like you were sayin fans knew we would have major growing pains with Ehsan. That isn’t true. Most fans pulling for Ehsan thought he would pick up where Haase left off. Realistic or not, that’s what we thought.

That's just idiotic then. He had never been a head coach. Neither had Haase, and it took Haase a couple of years to get going. Matter of fact, most idiots on this board were calling for his head right up until we beat Iowa State.
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Ehsan will get next year. Might as well get behind the team. I do hope that he gets some coaching help. He can't be happy with his performance.
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RE: MTSU THREAD
(02-25-2018 08:09 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 07:44 PM)ICB Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 04:13 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 04:01 PM)randy22263 Wrote:  
(02-25-2018 02:21 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Blazer fans need to reassess how talented this team actually is. Talented players can overcome bad coaching (if that is what it is). You judge talent by results, not by recruiting stars.

Yes and good coaching can get average players to play hard every time they hit the court. In fact that is the first thing you expect from any coach: to get consistent effort.. You call out fans for attacking the coach but it seems ok to call the entire team quitters. You will be the first one to say you thought he was a bad coach once he is gone (like you did Davis).

Ehsan was not hired because he was already a good coach. He was hired because he had potential to be a good coach. Fans have to be patient. He may turn out to be a good coach. Certainly looks like he is a good recruiter. But two years is not enough time.

Regarding Davis. The day he was hired, I posted here that it was a horrible hire and caught quite a bit of flack on the board because everyone was giddy that we had hired a "big name". I was one of his harshest critics early on regarding failure to advance in the tournament, the Cousins fiasco, and the academic issues. I called for him to be fired. At some point in his career, I decided that since I don't have enough clout to get a coach fired, it does no good to trash him publicly during the season. Calling for a coaches head midseason does not do anything to help the team. It just creates more angst and turmoil. That has been my stance ever since.

Regarding Ehsan, after he is gone, who knows how I will feel. Too early to tell. But for now, he is the coach and I support him.

The movement to hire Ehsan was NOT because he had potential to be a good coach. It was CLEARLY stated on this board and social media, that hiring Ehsan would keep the talented team intact and Ehsan would simply pick up where Haase left off. I will pull the posts if you like.

If you've got nothing but time, I'm sure we will be all ears.

Your gifts of hindsight and reading between the lines will astound us I'm sure.

No hindsight here... What I’m saying is I’m included in the bunch. My own posts... was part of the movement.
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