To really get the Southern Ivy you need the BCS to bifurcate into a couple different divisions. When that happens what happens to the ACC? Do Duke, NC State, GA Tech, and Wake Forest ever have a chance at a national championship. How about Tulane, Rice, Vanderbilt? Now ask about basketball conferences and other sports like baseball, tennis, etc.

I think if the BCS is modified you will see football be the outlier. I'd be happy to see us play football against some of the teams I mentioned above along with basketball and other sports.

(12-05-2017 02:44 PM)bostonspider Wrote:  An eastern football conference that included the 5 PL members, (Bucknell, Colgate, HC, Lehigh, Lafayette), and Fordham, from the current CAA; UR, VU, W&M, Elon, and from the SC; VMI, Furman, the Citadel and Wofford would be my first choice, though that is awfully large at 14 members. Maybe drop to two military academies, but they along with W&M give a little private/public balance, but are all still relatively small schools... two divisions

North
HC
Fordham
Colgate
Bucknell
Lehigh
Lafayette
Villanova

South
Richmond
W&M
VMI
Elon
Furman
Wofford
the Citadel

You play 6 against your division 3h/3a and then 2 revolving against the other division. A championship game would be cool, and then either playoffs, or the champ plays in a bowl versus the Ivy champ.

None of us will every be at the level of the P5 in football, so why not compete with schools of similar academic intent.

I like the schools here though not as a new conference replacing the CAA. Some issues from my end:
1) this looks like the "conference" we had set 20 years ago before UR pulled their sleaze move. On that alone, I dislike it. This is likely the brainchild of the new UR AD (which I'm guessing it is - he came from Bucknell).
2) I also don't believe Delaware has the same ambitions as JMU. They would be most interested in the same thing we would - a regional, all sports conference with the best level of competition. I prefer we stick with Delaware first.
3) I don't like the fact we shaft the other CAA partners (UNH, Towson, URI, Stony Brook, Northeastern, etc) just to pacify URs desire for a football link that implodes the CAA as an all sports conference.

Does anyone think UR wants this as an all sports conference?

If I'm Huge, I would tell UR to buzz if their ideas include killing the CAA.

JMU hit a long FG as time expired to beat Weber State. Back to Frisco.

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Weber St. definitely played them toe to toe. That field goal just barely made it in, but a good pressure kick by the r-freshman.

(12-08-2017 10:34 PM)Tribal Wrote:  JMU hit a long FG as time expired to beat Weber State. Back to Frisco.

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They still have to play the winner of SDSU and NH to go to Frisco

Weber St. played close and I am sure they left thinking that they should have won. I thought Weber definitely let it get away:

1. Even the most casual viewer could see that the only player other than Schor making clutch plays was their WR Stapleton. So wouldn't you think you would cover that guy in clutch situations? In fact, wouldn't you double-cover him in those situations?

2. The Weber DB dropped an easy interception several plays before the winning kick. It was right in his hands .....

3. Schor kept avoiding sacks and throwing the ball away (or actually making completions). The DEs just couldn't bring him down. It was super frustrating to watch because I saw Schor do the same thing in W'Burg against our defensive line. In this game, however, it was incredibly frustrating because Schor avoided the sack on three straight plays and three incompletions, and then JMU kicked a FG to pull within 21-20. If Weber had made just one of those sacks then there would have been no FG there.

4. After the 28-28 tying score, and with about 2 minutes left, Weber took one shot downfield. Okay, no problem. However, after it failed, it looked like the next runner went out of bounds and the third pass was an incompletion. Since JMU had only one timeout left, Weber should have used better clock management to burn it down and head to overtime.

I think South Dakota State (who I expect to beat UNH pretty handily) will definitely score on JMU. However, their opponents all seem to be able to score on SDSU, too, so that could be a problem. It should be an entertaining game.

Great game, #10 for JMU was the man. 6'5", but athletic. They have athlete after athlete on their team, really a FBS team. They did not look good on offense, and the OL issues may haunt them going forward. NDSU is really anxious for a JMU rematch. I know a NDSU fan, and he has been talking about a rematch since their loss to JMU last year.

JMU loses a TON this year, so will see how they look in 2018. If they keep their great coach they will be fine, if he gets a better gig..........

(12-09-2017 12:50 AM)Zorch Wrote:  Weber St. played close and I am sure they left thinking that they should have won. I thought Weber definitely let it get away:

1. Even the most casual viewer could see that the only player other than Schor making clutch plays was their WR Stapleton. So wouldn't you think you would cover that guy in clutch situations? In fact, wouldn't you double-cover him in those situations?

Schor and Stapleton certainly were big, but they had numerous others make big plays. Terrence Alls was unstoppable on the jet sweep, and Marcus Marshall rushed for 128 on 14 carries. Stapleton was well covered on some of his big catches and just made plays even when they stacked a safety on him. If Alls hadn't had three drops his numbers would have exceeded Stapleton. Their DBs made some big plays as well (with the exception of the 82 yd. TD when the safety ran right past the receiver just after the catch). Moreland's break up over the middle on 3rd down late was huge. They gained 549 yards to WSU's 329. I thought they showed an explosiveness reminiscent of last year's Dukes against a pretty good defense, and they certainly showed real grit coming back twice.

We'll see how SDSU fares against the UNH defense today.

(12-09-2017 09:41 AM)Tribe4SF Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 12:50 AM)Zorch Wrote:  Weber St. played close and I am sure they left thinking that they should have won. I thought Weber definitely let it get away:

1. Even the most casual viewer could see that the only player other than Schor making clutch plays was their WR Stapleton. So wouldn't you think you would cover that guy in clutch situations? In fact, wouldn't you double-cover him in those situations?

Schor and Stapleton certainly were big, but they had numerous others make big plays. Terrence Alls was unstoppable on the jet sweep, and Marcus Marshall rushed for 128 on 14 carries. Stapleton was well covered on some of his big catches and just made plays even when they stacked a safety on him. If Alls hadn't had three drops his numbers would have exceeded Stapleton. Their DBs made some big plays as well (with the exception of the 82 yd. TD when the safety ran right past the receiver just after the catch). Moreland's break up over the middle on 3rd down late was huge. They gained 549 yards to WSU's 329. I thought they showed an explosiveness reminiscent of last year's Dukes against a pretty good defense, and they certainly showed real grit coming back twice.

We'll see how SDSU fares against the UNH defense today.

Yes, but I specifically spoke of the "clutch" situations. In the 2nd half, every time JMU needed to convert a 3rd and 10 (or longer!) you knew exactly who was getting the ball and that was only one guy -- Stapleton. In fact, late in the game when Schor actually did throw to somebody else on several consecutive plays, he didn't complete any of those passes. If Stapleton doesn't get the game ball then there should be an investigation.

Don't forget Sharp's contribution. That run on the 2 point conversion was as impressive as it was surprising. NO one runs for two any more, unless it's the QB running for the corner on a roll out, while looking for an open receiver.

Sharp had to make TWO people, in good position, miss, just to tie up the game. If he doesn't make it, game over. WSU just takes a few knees and goes back to Utah a winner.

(12-09-2017 09:55 AM)Zorch Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 09:41 AM)Tribe4SF Wrote:  

(12-09-2017 12:50 AM)Zorch Wrote:  Weber St. played close and I am sure they left thinking that they should have won. I thought Weber definitely let it get away:

1. Even the most casual viewer could see that the only player other than Schor making clutch plays was their WR Stapleton. So wouldn't you think you would cover that guy in clutch situations? In fact, wouldn't you double-cover him in those situations?

Schor and Stapleton certainly were big, but they had numerous others make big plays. Terrence Alls was unstoppable on the jet sweep, and Marcus Marshall rushed for 128 on 14 carries. Stapleton was well covered on some of his big catches and just made plays even when they stacked a safety on him. If Alls hadn't had three drops his numbers would have exceeded Stapleton. Their DBs made some big plays as well (with the exception of the 82 yd. TD when the safety ran right past the receiver just after the catch). Moreland's break up over the middle on 3rd down late was huge. They gained 549 yards to WSU's 329. I thought they showed an explosiveness reminiscent of last year's Dukes against a pretty good defense, and they certainly showed real grit coming back twice.

We'll see how SDSU fares against the UNH defense today.

Yes, but I specifically spoke of the "clutch" situations. In the 2nd half, every time JMU needed to convert a 3rd and 10 (or longer!) you knew exactly who was getting the ball and that was only one guy -- Stapleton. In fact, late in the game when Schor actually did throw to somebody else on several consecutive plays, he didn't complete any of those passes. If Stapleton doesn't get the game ball then there should be an investigation.

Game ball to him for sure, but WSU had to recognize the other weapons on the field. Last two scoring drives started with first down catches by Hyman and Alls. If Alls is coming up the seam safeties can't ignore him. JMU offense puts pressure on secondaries like few others can.

(12-09-2017 10:13 AM)billymac Wrote:  Don't forget Sharp's contribution. That run on the 2 point conversion was as impressive as it was surprising. NO one runs for two any more, unless it's the QB running for the corner on a roll out, while looking for an open receiver.

Sharp had to make TWO people, in good position, miss, just to tie up the game. If he doesn't make it, game over. WSU just takes a few knees and goes back to Utah a winner.

Yes, but did you also see the Weber lineman who made good penetration on that play and yet couldn't make the tackle behind the line because he was being held? I replayed that play 3-4 times and, gosh darn it, it looked like uncalled holding every time. :o)

Tubby Raymond has died. RIP Coach.

(12-09-2017 02:20 PM)Zorch Wrote:  Tubby Raymond has died. RIP Coach.

Sorry to hear this, was a great coach for a long, long time.

With Houston signing a whopping 10 year contract extension with JMU, inevitable the move up is sooner than later. Smart move by JMU to do what they had to do to keep him. Won't make life any easier overtaking them for a CAA championship.

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A 10 year extension means little if a big school comes calling.

(12-13-2017 09:33 AM)mrjoolius Wrote:  A 10 year extension means little if a big school comes calling.

Yes, if the success continues and there is P5 interest down the road, a buyout is not much more than a speed bump on the trip out of town.

This is still a smart move by JMU to give the appearance of stability. Should help with recruiting in the next few years at least. Another head coaching change could have set them back.

(12-13-2017 09:52 AM)TheRealTribe Wrote:  

(12-13-2017 09:33 AM)mrjoolius Wrote:  A 10 year extension means little if a big school comes calling.

Yes, if the success continues and there is P5 interest down the road, a buyout is not much more than a speed bump on the trip out of town.

This is still a smart move by JMU to give the appearance of stability. Should help with recruiting in the next few years at least. Another head coaching change could have set them back.

True. If he leaves for say, VT, no one can blame their AD. The school has done everything it can. CUSA is gonna come a callin, I bet.

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A freshman QB at Colgate (Grant Breneman) finished 10th in the voting for the Jerry Rice award (top freshman in FCS). I believe Colgate is on our schedule for next year. Elon's frosh QB (Davis Cheek) also made the list at # 5.

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=...2983071204

I thought Cheek performed well this year, but Elon also featured one of the best rushing attacks in the entire country which took a great deal of pressure off him. However, when Summers went down he stepped up his game and threw for 200+ yards in every remaining game except JMU. He will be a solid performer in the conference for the next three years for an Elon team that should continue to compete at a high level.

Breneman put up solid freshman numbers, most impressively his TD-INT which was 18-5.

All I know is September will be a brutal start to the season that will either set this team up for a magical year or more heartbreak.