(04-16-2017 07:28 PM)Fear the TEAL Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 04:26 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 04:19 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  League 1: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, WKU, MTSU, FIU, FAU, UAB, GaST, GaSOU, App, CCU

Seems very reasonable.Where do we sign ?

Yeah, I like it.

Ugh conference USA needs realignment. We don't. Does not seem like it's our problem

Let's not forget a lot of USA schools left the sunbelt high and dry. Why would anyone want to help them now. If we don't help them it's a competitive advantage for sunbelt schools.

(04-16-2017 07:28 PM)Fear the TEAL Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 04:26 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 04:19 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  League 1: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, WKU, MTSU, FIU, FAU, UAB, GaST, GaSOU, App, CCU

Seems very reasonable.Where do we sign ?

Yeah, I like it.

Ugh conference USA needs realignment. We don't. Does not seem like it's our problem

I agree. No need to get tied up with those losers.

Raid CUSA

Called it a couple of years ago that their TV contract value would tank. Get MTSU and ODU's ADs on the phone. Tell them to join us or keep getting sucked into the CUSA vortex.

Again, why does it matter that they left? Almost any one of the (then) sunbelt schools would've left for that kind of instant payday. Think about the future. Think about what would be best for your school sans ego, sans butthurt, and sans personal vendetta.

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(04-16-2017 08:28 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Again, why does it matter that they left? Almost any one of the (then) sunbelt schools would've left for that kind of instant payday. Think about the future. Think about what would be best for your school sans ego, sans butthurt, and sans personal vendetta.

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So, basically you want everyone to think like the opposite of La Tech fans?

My ideal conference includes Southern Miss and 9 of the 10 current Sun Belt Members sans ULM simply because I'm not sure how interested they are in FBS football right now. My only wish and desire is that realignment writers would consult a map at some point and quit trying to put Arkansas State in a league with a bunch of Texas schools.

(04-14-2017 09:55 AM)panama Wrote:  

(04-14-2017 07:48 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 01:27 PM)airtroop Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 09:15 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(04-13-2017 08:27 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Seriously get back in contact with reality.

The reality is that our university and virtually every other in C-USA have separated ourselves from the belch and want nothing to do with that dumpster fire. It ain't gonna happen, but keep dreamin'.

If you know any [honest] "insiders" at your school, ask them how it felt when Tech begged the Belt to take you back just to be met with a big, middle finger. Luckily for you, C-USA tossed you a lifeline.

That's a lie. We NEVER begged the Belch for anything, and let's be honest here, your dumpster fire conference would have jumped all over a premier program like ours, one that would deliver over half of the state of Louisiana.

...like...deliver pizzas to them?

This will be a travesty if this post isn't in the running for post of the year.

(04-16-2017 07:31 PM)Fear the TEAL Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 07:28 PM)Fear the TEAL Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 04:26 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 04:19 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  League 1: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, WKU, MTSU, FIU, FAU, UAB, GaST, GaSOU, App, CCU

Seems very reasonable.Where do we sign ?

Yeah, I like it.

Ugh conference USA needs realignment. We don't. Does not seem like it's our problem

Let's not forget a lot of USA schools left the sunbelt high and dry. Why would anyone want to help them now. If we don't help them it's a competitive advantage for sunbelt schools.

I don't disagree. I like the Sun Belt and think we all can help each other out.

But, if realignment to regional conferences does happen then that is an alignment that would work well for Coastal in my opinion. I think something may happen just because a number of ADs have spoken on it. Also, some of the travel issues I've seen just in baseball (like A-State busing to Coastal or Louisiana taking 15 hours to get to Coastal) make it clear to me that travel is still an issue and improvements can be made. Many schools in that proposed conference are within a 6 hour drive of Conway or have direct air options from Myrtle Beach. If we realign to improve the student athlete experience and missed class time, save some money, and stay with App and GS then I think it could work out well.

(04-17-2017 12:40 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 07:31 PM)Fear the TEAL Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 07:28 PM)Fear the TEAL Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 04:26 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 04:19 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  League 1: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, WKU, MTSU, FIU, FAU, UAB, GaST, GaSOU, App, CCU

Seems very reasonable.Where do we sign ?

Yeah, I like it.

Ugh conference USA needs realignment. We don't. Does not seem like it's our problem

Let's not forget a lot of USA schools left the sunbelt high and dry. Why would anyone want to help them now. If we don't help them it's a competitive advantage for sunbelt schools.

I don't disagree. I like the Sun Belt and think we all can help each other out.

But, if realignment to regional conferences does happen then that is an alignment that would work well for Coastal in my opinion. I think something may happen just because a number of ADs have spoken on it. Also, some of the travel issues I've seen just in baseball (like A-State busing to Coastal or Louisiana taking 15 hours to get to Coastal) make it clear to me that travel is still an issue and improvements can be made. Many schools in that proposed conference are within a 6 hour drive of Conway or have direct air options from Myrtle Beach. If we realign to improve the student athlete experience and missed class time, save some money, and stay with App and GS then I think it could work out well.

To be fair, we bussed because we are cheap when it comes to baseball

(04-16-2017 11:11 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 08:28 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Again, why does it matter that they left? Almost any one of the (then) sunbelt schools would've left for that kind of instant payday. Think about the future. Think about what would be best for your school sans ego, sans butthurt, and sans personal vendetta.

twitter.com/DieselOnRadio

So, basically you want everyone to think like the opposite of La Tech fans?

My ideal conference includes Southern Miss and 9 of the 10 current Sun Belt Members sans ULM simply because I'm not sure how interested they are in FBS football right now. My only wish and desire is that realignment writers would consult a map at some point and quit trying to put Arkansas State in a league with a bunch of Texas schools.

I don't know how you figure that thinking about what's best for your school is opposite of how La Tech fans think. We ALWAYS think about what's best for La Tech. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Nothing about conference realignment is personal. It's business. You take all this realignment talk personally, and you shouldn't.

If any CUSA member thought that leaving CUSA for the SBC would be a good move, they'd be actively lobbying for it. As far as I know, not a single CUSA member has expressed any interest in such a move. Everything that's been written about a CUSA/SBC merger is nothing more than wishful thinking on the part of some bored sports beat writers.

A much more likely scenario to happen is that an "airport meeting" will take place between the top echelon members of both the SBC and CUSA to break away and form a completely new conference. I'm sure that some schools are talking privately about it now. Miss out on an invitation to that meeting, and your program may be in real trouble.

(04-17-2017 05:12 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  So, basically you want everyone to think like the opposite of La Tech fans?

My ideal conference includes Southern Miss and 9 of the 10 current Sun Belt Members sans ULM simply because I'm not sure how interested they are in FBS football right now. My only wish and desire is that realignment writers would consult a map at some point and quit trying to put Arkansas State in a league with a bunch of Texas schools.

I don't know how you figure that thinking about what's best for your school is opposite of how La Tech fans think. We ALWAYS think about what's best for La Tech. I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Nothing about conference realignment is personal. It's business. You take all this realignment talk personally, and you shouldn't.

If any CUSA member thought that leaving CUSA for the SBC would be a good move, they'd be actively lobbying for it. As far as I know, not a single CUSA member has expressed any interest in such a move. Everything that's been written about a CUSA/SBC merger is nothing more than wishful thinking on the part of some bored sports beat writers.

A much more likely scenario to happen is that an "airport meeting" will take place between the top echelon members of both the SBC and CUSA to break away and form a completely new conference. I'm sure that some schools are talking privately about it now. Miss out on an invitation to that meeting, and your program may be in real trouble.

Well, so far most of the malcontents seem to be in CUSA. The Sun Belt ADs have not said anything about this yet. The Sun Belt has a good travel partner set-up and didn't build it's conference around the silly idea that they'd get lots of TV money thrown at them if they have enough marketz.

BTW, MTSU and WKU would fit nicely within the geographic "crescent" of the conference, wouldn't they?

(04-16-2017 11:00 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  SOUTHWEST: Texas-San Antonio, Rice, North Texas, Texas State, UTEP, Arkansas State.

MID-SOUTH: Southern Miss, UAB, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, La.-Lafayette, La.-Monroe.

SOUTHEAST: South Alabama, Troy, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Florida International, Florida Atlantic.

EAST: Marshall, Old Dominion, Charlotte, Appalachian State, Western Kentucky, Coastal Carolina

Well, first of all, you can't separate MTSU and WKU.

Secondly, why are all of these schools being included?

And, what about UTA and LR?

Here's what I would do:

League 1: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, WKU, MTSU, FIU, FAU, UAB, GaST, GaSOU, App, CCU

League 2: Texas State, UNT, UTSA, Rice, Arkansas State, Tech, Louisiana, USM, Troy, USA, LR (non football) UTA (non football)

If this is all about consolidating for the sake of travel costs (and remember, we're talking about traveling volleyball, soccer, tennis, etc. in addition to football, basketball and baseball) then we've got to make the geography.

Sorry UTEP and NMSU. You're just too far out there for teams on the eastern side of a western league. Ruston is closer to Pittsburgh than it is to El Paso.

ULM? Time to poop or get off the pot. If you can't show that you're ready to be competitive, budget wise, you'll have to do something else.

No Liberty, UMASS or James Madison. Quit adding teams to make numbers work.

My only qualm was dealing with the two Florida schools. Marshall and ODU to Florida is quite a trek. I left them in, but I wouldn't be married to it.

Since UAB hasn't been in a league with Troy and USA in recent history, I had no problem placing them in separate leagues.

Oh, and UNT needs to get a baseball program. Eleven teams for baseball absolutely sucks.

I think untexas is adding baseball

(04-17-2017 07:22 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 11:00 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  SOUTHWEST: Texas-San Antonio, Rice, North Texas, Texas State, UTEP, Arkansas State.

MID-SOUTH: Southern Miss, UAB, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, La.-Lafayette, La.-Monroe.

SOUTHEAST: South Alabama, Troy, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Florida International, Florida Atlantic.

EAST: Marshall, Old Dominion, Charlotte, Appalachian State, Western Kentucky, Coastal Carolina

Well, first of all, you can't separate MTSU and WKU.

Secondly, why are all of these schools being included?

And, what about UTA and LR?

Here's what I would do:

League 1: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, WKU, MTSU, FIU, FAU, UAB, GaST, GaSOU, App, CCU

League 2: Texas State, UNT, UTSA, Rice, Arkansas State, Tech, Louisiana, USM, Troy, USA, LR (non football) UTA (non football)

If this is all about consolidating for the sake of travel costs (and remember, we're talking about traveling volleyball, soccer, tennis, etc. in addition to football, basketball and baseball) then we've got to make the geography.

Sorry UTEP and NMSU. You're just too far out there for teams on the eastern side of a western league. Ruston is closer to Pittsburgh than it is to El Paso.

ULM? Time to poop or get off the pot. If you can't show that you're ready to be competitive, budget wise, you'll have to do something else.

No Liberty, UMASS or James Madison. Quit adding teams to make numbers work.

My only qualm was dealing with the two Florida schools. Marshall and ODU to Florida is quite a trek. I left them in, but I wouldn't be married to it.

Since UAB hasn't been in a league with Troy and USA in recent history, I had no problem placing them in separate leagues.

Oh, and UNT needs to get a baseball program. Eleven teams for baseball absolutely sucks.

I think untexas is adding baseball

I've heard that as well . . . Though they seem to be taking their sweet time doing it.

I believe that they have a new AD . . . A Guy from Oklahoma . . . maybe he can get it fast tracked . . .

(04-17-2017 07:22 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 11:00 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  SOUTHWEST: Texas-San Antonio, Rice, North Texas, Texas State, UTEP, Arkansas State.

MID-SOUTH: Southern Miss, UAB, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, La.-Lafayette, La.-Monroe.

SOUTHEAST: South Alabama, Troy, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Florida International, Florida Atlantic.

EAST: Marshall, Old Dominion, Charlotte, Appalachian State, Western Kentucky, Coastal Carolina

Well, first of all, you can't separate MTSU and WKU.

Secondly, why are all of these schools being included?

And, what about UTA and LR?

Here's what I would do:

League 1: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, WKU, MTSU, FIU, FAU, UAB, GaST, GaSOU, App, CCU

League 2: Texas State, UNT, UTSA, Rice, Arkansas State, Tech, Louisiana, USM, Troy, USA, LR (non football) UTA (non football)

If this is all about consolidating for the sake of travel costs (and remember, we're talking about traveling volleyball, soccer, tennis, etc. in addition to football, basketball and baseball) then we've got to make the geography.

Sorry UTEP and NMSU. You're just too far out there for teams on the eastern side of a western league. Ruston is closer to Pittsburgh than it is to El Paso.

ULM? Time to poop or get off the pot. If you can't show that you're ready to be competitive, budget wise, you'll have to do something else.

No Liberty, UMASS or James Madison. Quit adding teams to make numbers work.

My only qualm was dealing with the two Florida schools. Marshall and ODU to Florida is quite a trek. I left them in, but I wouldn't be married to it.

Since UAB hasn't been in a league with Troy and USA in recent history, I had no problem placing them in separate leagues.

Oh, and UNT needs to get a baseball program. Eleven teams for baseball absolutely sucks.

I think untexas is adding baseball

They have been adding baseball for 10 years.

I knew they'd been talking about it for awhile, didn't realize it had been that long.

They play it as a club sport . . The University kicks in about $5,000 a year. They'd like to bring back baseball and soccer. Naturally, they'd also need to add 2 women's sports. The biggest hold up to their plans seems to be funding.

I really like baseball, and hope they can bring it back one day . . Hope they can get the money part figured out . .

(04-16-2017 07:31 PM)Fear the TEAL Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 07:28 PM)Fear the TEAL Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 04:26 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 04:19 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  League 1: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, WKU, MTSU, FIU, FAU, UAB, GaST, GaSOU, App, CCU

Seems very reasonable.Where do we sign ?

Yeah, I like it.

Ugh conference USA needs realignment. We don't. Does not seem like it's our problem

Let's not forget a lot of USA schools left the sunbelt high and dry. Why would anyone want to help them now. If we don't help them it's a competitive advantage for sunbelt schools.

Formally requesting you use CUSA when referring to Conference USA. Sometimes I scan threads looking for references to South Alabama (USA) and get lured into a different topic.
Thanks in advance!

(04-17-2017 07:56 AM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(04-17-2017 07:22 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 11:00 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  SOUTHWEST: Texas-San Antonio, Rice, North Texas, Texas State, UTEP, Arkansas State.

MID-SOUTH: Southern Miss, UAB, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, La.-Lafayette, La.-Monroe.

SOUTHEAST: South Alabama, Troy, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Florida International, Florida Atlantic.

EAST: Marshall, Old Dominion, Charlotte, Appalachian State, Western Kentucky, Coastal Carolina

Well, first of all, you can't separate MTSU and WKU.

Secondly, why are all of these schools being included?

And, what about UTA and LR?

Here's what I would do:

League 1: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, WKU, MTSU, FIU, FAU, UAB, GaST, GaSOU, App, CCU

League 2: Texas State, UNT, UTSA, Rice, Arkansas State, Tech, Louisiana, USM, Troy, USA, LR (non football) UTA (non football)

If this is all about consolidating for the sake of travel costs (and remember, we're talking about traveling volleyball, soccer, tennis, etc. in addition to football, basketball and baseball) then we've got to make the geography.

Sorry UTEP and NMSU. You're just too far out there for teams on the eastern side of a western league. Ruston is closer to Pittsburgh than it is to El Paso.

ULM? Time to poop or get off the pot. If you can't show that you're ready to be competitive, budget wise, you'll have to do something else.

No Liberty, UMASS or James Madison. Quit adding teams to make numbers work.

My only qualm was dealing with the two Florida schools. Marshall and ODU to Florida is quite a trek. I left them in, but I wouldn't be married to it.

Since UAB hasn't been in a league with Troy and USA in recent history, I had no problem placing them in separate leagues.

Oh, and UNT needs to get a baseball program. Eleven teams for baseball absolutely sucks.

I think untexas is adding baseball

They have been adding baseball for 10 years.

well, they are supposedly working some kind of deal with a minor league team to collaborate on a ballpark which would be more upscale if the partnership thing could be worked out. that's the last I heard.

(04-17-2017 05:12 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  A much more likely scenario to happen is that an "airport meeting" will take place between the top echelon members of both the SBC and CUSA to break away and form a completely new conference. I'm sure that some schools are talking privately about it now. Miss out on an invitation to that meeting, and your program may be in real trouble.

The issue in this scenario would be BB Credits. You would have to figure that out first, then beg the NCAA for a Auto-Bid or a courtesy At-Large(in Basketball).

Looking at the Football side, it could be problematic due to who do you take(i.e Marshall wanting to be in a Conference with Florida Schools and my understanding that UTEP does not want to be in the same Conference as NMST).

I can see it, but think before you act. Just ask the MAC on how having a regional Conference is our greatest asset, and out biggest liability.....

(04-16-2017 04:26 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(04-16-2017 04:19 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  League 1: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, WKU, MTSU, FIU, FAU, UAB, GaST, GaSOU, App, CCU

Seems very reasonable.Where do we sign ?

Yeah, I like it.

Ugh! That's a horrid lineup. Four of them are in the Bottom 10 of the worst of FBS and a 5th hasn't played football in years. CCU has yet to play a down of FBS football and is better than 4 of those programs.

(04-16-2017 03:59 PM)AZcats Wrote:  I see all of these regional re-alignment plans as a joke but a commonality I've noticed is that Arkansas State is always placed with the Texas schools. I do not recall any that don't have that grouping. stAte is closer to the LA, MS, and AL schools than any TX school. It would be better to have LaTech with Texas as it also keeps them separate from Monroe.

If I had to guess, I'd say its assumed that grouping ArkSt with the Texas schools would make sense since it worked for years in the SWC.

If you look at the football playing schools in the Sun Belt and CUSA there are 5 in Texas, 1 in Arkansas, and 3 in Louisiana. Most realignment guesses like to keep schools in the same state together so A-State usually ends up with the 5 Texas schools by default. If there's no NMST in the picture it has to be A-State, La Tech, or the Cajuns with the Texas Schools.