Tribe32
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RE: OC on the move?
Top reasons stuff like this happens:
Money
Decision making authority and autonomy
Boss not supporting worker among other workers or overruling decisions
Employee disagrees with direction the boss is going
I'll bet it is one or more of the above.
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LeadBolt
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RE: OC on the move?
Interesting announcement and timing. It does leave one scratching one's head. Perhaps there will be more info floating around in Charleston this weekend...
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02-28-2017 02:02 PM |
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Pete24
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RE: OC on the move?
Sorry to see Kevin Rogers stepping down, by all accounts a great coach and an even better person. However, like many, I felt the Tribe offense and QB Steve Cluley underachieved last season. Many had high expectations that clearly weren't met. Am wondering how much that weighed into the equation.
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RE: OC on the move?
Most, if not all, unfortunately.
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02-28-2017 02:31 PM |
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Tribe32
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RE: OC on the move?
Well, if he was pushed out then that makes two in a row that didn't cut it in JL's eyes.
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02-28-2017 02:53 PM |
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zablenoise
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RE: OC on the move?
(02-28-2017 02:53 PM)Tribe32 Wrote: Well, if he was pushed out then that makes two in a row that didn't cut it in JL's eyes.
Two offensive coordinators?
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RE: OC on the move?
(02-28-2017 02:54 PM)zablenoise Wrote: (02-28-2017 02:53 PM)Tribe32 Wrote: Well, if he was pushed out then that makes two in a row that didn't cut it in JL's eyes.
Two offensive coordinators?
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I think he's referring to Zbig Kepa, though he lasted around 30 years here
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02-28-2017 03:05 PM |
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tribeintexas
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RE: OC on the move?
Thanks and good luck to you Coach Rogers.
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02-28-2017 03:12 PM |
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zablenoise
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RE: OC on the move?
(02-28-2017 03:05 PM)TDenverFan Wrote: (02-28-2017 02:54 PM)zablenoise Wrote: (02-28-2017 02:53 PM)Tribe32 Wrote: Well, if he was pushed out then that makes two in a row that didn't cut it in JL's eyes.
Two offensive coordinators?
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I think he's referring to Zbig Kepa, though he lasted around 30 years here
Yeah that's what I was gonna say
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02-28-2017 03:27 PM |
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Tribeheart
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OC on the move?
Well, special teams had their share of hiccups last year, and the offense has not been where many expected. If Jimmye is having higher expectations, then I applaud him at this stage. The CAA gauntlet is not backing off, we have the talent, and it's now or never for Jimmye's legacy. Have to believe at this stage in starting spring practice we would not put in someone else's offense, as opposed to, past familiar territory. Will be interesting.
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RE: OC on the move?
definitely sounds like there are issues...
hopefully we get a good replacement; obviously there's no way we get someone with a resume that will sniff the resume leaving.
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02-28-2017 05:44 PM |
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LeadBolt
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RE: OC on the move?
I would hope that if this move was orchestrated, there is aa replacement in the wings.
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02-28-2017 06:08 PM |
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Tribe32
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RE: OC on the move?
Yes. That was what I was referring to.
Maybe JL doesn't want/need an OC and/or QB coach.
(02-28-2017 03:05 PM)TDenverFan Wrote: (02-28-2017 02:54 PM)zablenoise Wrote: (02-28-2017 02:53 PM)Tribe32 Wrote: Well, if he was pushed out then that makes two in a row that didn't cut it in JL's eyes.
Two offensive coordinators?
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I think he's referring to Zbig Kepa, though he lasted around 30 years here
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02-28-2017 07:03 PM |
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tribefbfan
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RE: OC on the move?
(02-28-2017 09:57 AM)xtribe8wr Wrote: (02-27-2017 10:02 PM)tribefbfan Wrote: (02-27-2017 09:59 PM)tribefbfan Wrote: (02-27-2017 09:46 PM)xtribe8wr Wrote: (02-26-2017 07:18 PM)tribefbfan Wrote: Didn't you just announce it?
Like I said, it's probably an unwritten rule not to discuss "inside" information on the message boards until it is announced by the program. But then it wouldn't be inside info.
There should probably be an unwritten rule for some not to say anything at all, especially if their speculation is out in left field.
I think you took my comments the wrong way, but that happens on message boards. Your information is truly inside, you clearly know something others do not. It has to be inside info, since there has been no announcement out of Laycock Center yet. I don't doubt the accuracy of your statement.
I was having fun with your announcing the announcement though, you got me there.
Your screen name lead people to believe that you are an ex-Tribe wide receiver, what years or decade did you play?
No offense taken. I was only trying to help minimize the speculation, which sometimes can lean towards the bizarre. I'm as perplexed as others why there hasn't been an official announcement. This situation is unique, but it is an amicable departure. Still, a lot of questions remain and I'm sure some answers will be forthcoming, hopefully soon.
In response to your question, I played football and baseball back in the '70s and have tried my best to support both programs ever since.
Quite an accomplishment to compete in two sports. Congrats!
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02-28-2017 10:58 PM |
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tribefbfan
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RE: OC on the move?
I wouldn't try to read too much into this decision.
34 years coaching at the highest levels, growing family he wants to spend time with is what I am hearing. He is a great person who gave much of his life to developing young men. Congrats to him, I wish him only the best.
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02-28-2017 11:03 PM |
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bubbadog57
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RE: OC on the move?
I would expect a quick turnaround with the new OC coming on board within ten days or so. O cannot imagine they will go into spring practice, which begins 3/15, without the new guy on bopard.
I also have my own theory: with the recruitment of a top-level quarterback, perhaps the most publicized in the past 15-20 years, who is already in school, would it be that Jimmye, who used to coach quarterbacks directly no matter the OC and with Rogers retiring, might take him directly under his wing, working, of course, with the new OC.
Should be the most interesting spring practice in some time.
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RE: OC on the move?
(02-28-2017 04:18 PM)Tribeheart Wrote: Well, special teams had their share of hiccups last year, and the offense has not been where many expected. If Jimmye is having higher expectations, then I applaud him at this stage. The CAA gauntlet is not backing off, we have the talent, and it's now or never for Jimmye's legacy. Have to believe at this stage in starting spring practice we would not put in someone else's offense, as opposed to, past familiar territory. Will be interesting.
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There will be only one offense run by The Tribe and it is the one we have used for 37+ years...the Jimmye Laycock offense. Yes, there have been some tweaks here and there but all in all basically the same .
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03-01-2017 09:13 AM |
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Tribeheart
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RE: OC on the move?
(03-01-2017 09:13 AM)Tribe Fan Wrote: There will be only one offense run by The Tribe and it is the one we have used for 37+ years...the Jimmye Laycock offense. Yes, there have been some tweaks here and there but all in all basically the same .
I did not see the Jimmye Laycock offense (throw to the chains, throw to the chains, throw to the chains) the last 4 years.
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03-01-2017 09:23 AM |
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zablenoise
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RE: OC on the move?
(03-01-2017 09:23 AM)Tribeheart Wrote: (03-01-2017 09:13 AM)Tribe Fan Wrote: There will be only one offense run by The Tribe and it is the one we have used for 37+ years...the Jimmye Laycock offense. Yes, there have been some tweaks here and there but all in all basically the same .
I did not see the Jimmye Laycock offense (throw to the chains, throw to the chains, throw to the chains) the last 4 years.
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I completely agree, the last few years there has been a marked difference in how the offense runs
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03-01-2017 09:49 AM |
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