Glass half full kind guy. The country has come a long way when an African American man is wrongly fired but gets $11 million to leave

This is the stupidest thing in the entire world.

As an African-American, an ECU graduate and ardent ECU football supporter. I believe without any reservation that race had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do w/ Ruff being shown the door. C'mon now, as much as race has been an issue this year in society, it was not a factor in either coaching change referenced. Any alluding to so is lazy and unfounded.

By a happy coincidence, Strong's tenure at Louisville was graced by the presence of Teddy Bridgewater. It's amazing what a great QB can do to enhance the reputation of a capable but otherwise unremarkable coach.

I call BS and fabrics on this. The reason BOTH were fired....they were NOT winning and the administrations felt that was not rectifiable. Race has nothing to do with it.

(11-29-2016 05:35 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 05:31 PM)wylioats Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 03:58 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 03:55 PM)wylioats Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 02:09 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  I think that this article nails it correctly when the author states that Texas boosters were never behind Charlie Strong because he was black. Ruffin McNeill can probably relate as most of us would agree that his firing at ECU was not fully warranted (and he would almost have certainly been given an additional season to prove himself if he were white). The fact that there is truth behind this racial bias at the head coaching level is totally messed up.

http://www.stlamerican.com/sports/local_...9ca32.html

Judging by your sig, maybe you should jump on the Hillary train and go help her on the vote recount. Liberals, gotta love em. And no, I'm not racist, don't have a racist bone in my body. When I see something I think is racist, I'll be the first to attack it and call it out. Hate to tell you bub, but this one ain't about race, it's about a coach that under performed and couldn't get the job done. Race card? yea that's it.

I am not a big Hillary fan, but I do dislike Trump. He is racist and unqualified for the job. Conservatives, gotta love em.

In your opinion he's racist. Other than what you've read or heard in the liberal press, exactly what is it you know about him that says he's racist. Is it the fact that he wants to clean up crime in this country, does that imply to you that he's against African Americans? Does that imply to you he's racist? Is it that he wants to increase the security at our borders to try and keep out the criminal element out of our country? Or is it that he again wants to increase our security measures regarding refugees coming into this country from terrorist states. Or maybe he just gave you a call saying, I'm racist, don't like African Americans and don't want them in our country, is that it? Look, I know you didn't write the article, but why did you post it to start with, other than the fact you're trying to get your liberal agenda out there. Have a nice day.

He is from Connecticut where Hacky Sack is the major sport. Cut him some slack.

(11-29-2016 02:09 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  I think that this article nails it correctly when the author states that Texas boosters were never behind Charlie Strong because he was black. Ruffin McNeill can probably relate as most of us would agree that his firing at ECU was not fully warranted (and he would almost have certainly been given an additional season to prove himself if he were white). The fact that there is truth behind this racial bias at the head coaching level is totally messed up.

http://www.stlamerican.com/sports/local_...9ca32.html

I'm not sure about Texas or college football in general but the ECU situation had absolutely nothing to do with race. Your insinuation is ignorant and unfounded.

ECU hired another black coach to take Ruff's position in case you didn't notice. If there were any racism involved I don't think Scottie Montgomery would've been hired.

And I can guarantee you Charlie Strong would still be the coach at Texas if they won more games. It's all about winning and he didn't win enough, no matter what color his skin is.

(11-29-2016 09:04 PM)First Mate Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 02:09 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  I think that this article nails it correctly when the author states that Texas boosters were never behind Charlie Strong because he was black. Ruffin McNeill can probably relate as most of us would agree that his firing at ECU was not fully warranted (and he would almost have certainly been given an additional season to prove himself if he were white). The fact that there is truth behind this racial bias at the head coaching level is totally messed up.

http://www.stlamerican.com/sports/local_...9ca32.html

I'm not sure about Texas or college football in general but the ECU situation had absolutely nothing to do with race. Your insinuation is ignorant and unfounded.

ECU hired another black coach to take Ruff's position in case you didn't notice. If there were any racism involved I don't think Scottie Montgomery would've been hired.

And I can guarantee you Charlie Strong would still be the coach at Texas if they won more games. It's all about winning and he didn't win enough, no matter what color his skin is.

Clearly they hired another black man so they could fire him too.

(11-29-2016 08:36 PM)colohank Wrote:  By a happy coincidence, Strong's tenure at Louisville was graced by the presence of Teddy Bridgewater. It's amazing what a great QB can do to enhance the reputation of a capable but otherwise unremarkable coach.

Strong had the benefit of Clint Hurtt's "recruiting".

(11-29-2016 08:36 PM)colohank Wrote:  By a happy coincidence, Strong's tenure at Louisville was graced by the presence of Teddy Bridgewater. It's amazing what a great QB can do to enhance the reputation of a capable but otherwise unremarkable coach.

Like Ruff and Shane Carden?

I believe there are only 14 African American coaches in the FCS, now 13. Less than 10%

71% of FCS players are African American.

Just facts.

Maybe Texas kept strong too long because he wasn't white. I'd like to hear Les Miles opinion.

Lol

(11-29-2016 02:46 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 02:24 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Lots of southerners getting defensive about not being racist on here. That is usually a sign of admittance! LOL

What are you on about?

White guilt...I think.

(11-29-2016 02:24 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Lots of southerners getting defensive about not being racist on here. That is usually a sign of admittance! LOL

Nope. Most Southerners grew up around black unlike most of the NE. I never gave it any thought.

Not saying the South is not racist in parts but the most racist people I have met have been from the NE.

I didn't vote for Trump either. Most Conservatives here didn't want either but especially Hillary.

How is this thread not moved to Off Topic forum, or somewhere else? Neither coach have any current affiliations with the AAC. "Race" has nothing to do with the AAC and is OFF TOPIC. Clearly this is off topic.

(11-29-2016 10:19 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  How is this thread not moved to Off Topic forum, or somewhere else? Neither coach have any current affiliations with the AAC. "Race" has nothing to do with the AAC and is OFF TOPIC. Clearly this is off topic.

Settle down, Junior Mod. If a real mod sees this and agrees with you, it'll be moved. Otherwise...pipe down.

(11-29-2016 09:20 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  I believe there are only 14 African American coaches in the FCS, now 13. Less than 10%

71% of FCS players are African American.

Just facts.

What do the players have to do with it? Perhaps other criteria such as college degrees factor in as well. Assuming the colleges look at college degrees as part of a criteria, then that could explain your numbers a bit.

Take a look at the link below. It shows a huge gap in blacks with degrees with 33 percent having at least 2 year degrees while 47 percent of whites. Add the fact the blacks only make up 13 percent of the population and whites over 60 percent to the differences in education, it makes sense that whites would dominate the HC jobs, if education is a deciding factor.

http://hechingerreport.org/25368-2/

(11-29-2016 02:24 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Lots of southerners getting defensive about not being racist on here. That is usually a sign of admittance! LOL

I have lived in Boston, Massachusetts and now Charleston South Carolina for another stint. I assure you Boston has far more racial tensions than Charleston. North vs South has nothing to do with it anymore. But then again, you know that. You are just race baiting.

(11-29-2016 09:48 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  

(11-29-2016 02:24 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  Lots of southerners getting defensive about not being racist on here. That is usually a sign of admittance! LOL

Nope. Most Southerners grew up around black unlike most of the NE. I never gave it any thought.

Not saying the South is not racist in parts but the most racist people I have met have been from the NE.

Exactly.

Funny....my brother in law and I were talking about this at Thanksgiving. We have spent a considerable amount of time living in the South, whereas our lovely wives grew up in Ohio. They literally do not know any black people, thus they both have a tremendous amount of prejudice. The best part is, they don't even realize when they made racist statements.