(06-03-2016 12:33 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:26 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 11:28 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 11:01 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 10:13 AM)wcd35 Wrote:  Here's the detailed team sheets as well. South Alabama is #49. This is the report as of selection. Lists every game and the LR ones are a South Alabama home series:

https://rpiarchive.ncaa.org/Stats%20Libr...16Team.pdf

The NCAA site has been known to be listed incorrectly. There was a time this year where their "as of date" and the rankings did not match the current because those require someone to go in and update. The Nitty Gritty and Team sheets are what the committee use.

Thanks. Wish we'd seen this a few days ago when UNC and Oregon state fans were ripping Joel Erdmann for using his influence to unfairly get #50 USA in the tournament. It's only one spot, but the perception of being in the 40s versus the 50's is pretty significant.

No it's not ... it's the difference between 49 and 50.

51 and 50 in RPI is a huge difference so do not tell me 1 spot up does not matter

Sure, one spot matters. But to say that the difference between 49 and 50 is more substantial because of the sigma of the 40s and 50s is ridiculous

Last year Tulane was ranked 49 in RPI and got an at large Southeastern La at 50 did not

(06-03-2016 12:40 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:33 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:26 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 11:28 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 11:01 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  Thanks. Wish we'd seen this a few days ago when UNC and Oregon state fans were ripping Joel Erdmann for using his influence to unfairly get #50 USA in the tournament. It's only one spot, but the perception of being in the 40s versus the 50's is pretty significant.

No it's not ... it's the difference between 49 and 50.

51 and 50 in RPI is a huge difference so do not tell me 1 spot up does not matter

Sure, one spot matters. But to say that the difference between 49 and 50 is more substantial because of the sigma of the 40s and 50s is ridiculous

Last year Tulane was ranked 49 in RPI and got an at large Southeastern La at 50 did not

Okay?

(06-03-2016 12:44 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:40 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:33 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:26 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 11:28 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  No it's not ... it's the difference between 49 and 50.

51 and 50 in RPI is a huge difference so do not tell me 1 spot up does not matter

Sure, one spot matters. But to say that the difference between 49 and 50 is more substantial because of the sigma of the 40s and 50s is ridiculous

Last year Tulane was ranked 49 in RPI and got an at large Southeastern La at 50 did not

Okay?

You where just saying there is no difference between 49 and 50 in RPI ... The difference is big enough that one team in playing in a regional and the other is watching it on the couch

2013
Costal #49 in
UK #50 out

(06-03-2016 12:51 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:44 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:40 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:33 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:26 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  51 and 50 in RPI is a huge difference so do not tell me 1 spot up does not matter

Sure, one spot matters. But to say that the difference between 49 and 50 is more substantial because of the sigma of the 40s and 50s is ridiculous

Last year Tulane was ranked 49 in RPI and got an at large Southeastern La at 50 did not

Okay?

You where just saying there is no difference between 49 and 50 in RPI ... The difference is big enough that one team in playing in a regional and the other is watching it on the couch

No, that's not what I said. Obviously there is a difference between the two spots. My point is just because its 49 and 50 doesn't make it any different because one is in the 40s and one is in the 50s. Just like there is a difference between 48 and 49.

Usually 45 and under pretty much guarantees an at large . Anything over 45 and it becomes iffy

(06-03-2016 12:54 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:51 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:44 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:40 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:33 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  Sure, one spot matters. But to say that the difference between 49 and 50 is more substantial because of the sigma of the 40s and 50s is ridiculous

Last year Tulane was ranked 49 in RPI and got an at large Southeastern La at 50 did not

Okay?

You where just saying there is no difference between 49 and 50 in RPI ... The difference is big enough that one team in playing in a regional and the other is watching it on the couch

No, that's not what I said. Obviously there is a difference between the two spots. My point is just because its 49 and 50 doesn't make it any different because one is in the 40s and one is in the 50s. Just like there is a difference between 48 and 49.

I understand what you are saying
There is less of difference in 15 to 20 in RPI than their is 49 to 50. After 2013 RPI rules have changed to make the #49 spot the magic spot as the last at-large pick. You just might not have know that

(06-03-2016 12:40 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:33 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:26 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 11:28 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 11:01 AM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  Thanks. Wish we'd seen this a few days ago when UNC and Oregon state fans were ripping Joel Erdmann for using his influence to unfairly get #50 USA in the tournament. It's only one spot, but the perception of being in the 40s versus the 50's is pretty significant.

No it's not ... it's the difference between 49 and 50.

51 and 50 in RPI is a huge difference so do not tell me 1 spot up does not matter

Sure, one spot matters. But to say that the difference between 49 and 50 is more substantial because of the sigma of the 40s and 50s is ridiculous

Last year Tulane was ranked 49 in RPI and got an at large Southeastern La at 50 did not

2015:
Tulane was #43
SELA was #52
Selection Nitty Gritty Report

(06-03-2016 12:51 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:44 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:40 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:33 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:26 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  51 and 50 in RPI is a huge difference so do not tell me 1 spot up does not matter

Sure, one spot matters. But to say that the difference between 49 and 50 is more substantial because of the sigma of the 40s and 50s is ridiculous

Last year Tulane was ranked 49 in RPI and got an at large Southeastern La at 50 did not

Okay?

You where just saying there is no difference between 49 and 50 in RPI ... The difference is big enough that one team in playing in a regional and the other is watching it on the couch

2013
Costal #49 in
UK #50 out

2013:
Coastal was #48
UK was #49
Selection Nitty Gritty Report

(06-03-2016 01:00 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:54 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:51 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:44 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(06-03-2016 12:40 PM)Cajun_lannister Wrote:  Last year Tulane was ranked 49 in RPI and got an at large Southeastern La at 50 did not

Okay?

You where just saying there is no difference between 49 and 50 in RPI ... The difference is big enough that one team in playing in a regional and the other is watching it on the couch

No, that's not what I said. Obviously there is a difference between the two spots. My point is just because its 49 and 50 doesn't make it any different because one is in the 40s and one is in the 50s. Just like there is a difference between 48 and 49.

I understand what you are saying
There is less of difference in 15 to 20 in RPI than their is 49 to 50. After 2013 RPI rules have changed to make the #49 spot the magic spot as the last at-large pick. You just might not have know that

I'd love to see where that is stated somewhere.