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RE: Baseball @ # 19 EZU (Tuesday, 6:30 PM)
What programs would be firing Scalf for 7 Regional appearances (and 4 Regional Finals appearances) in 13 years? Given our average RPI of about 40 in that span, we're basically at the level of a middle of the pack SEC or ACC team as a program, and are only getting better.

I get that you want to set the bar higher. I really do; it's the only thing you're saying that makes any sense. No one wants to be complacent; everyone wants us hosting Regionals and getting to the Super Regionals and beyond. But you don't get there by firing the coach that got us to this point and is continuing to get better and better players here. Who would come here, with the relatively limited resources we have, and basically be told "We want you to be a top 25 team basically every season or you're done"? Yeah, that would work swell.

Yes, I'm a Scalf fan and don't like when he gets under-appreciated. But I have good, hard evidence to say I'm on the correct side of this. As I said earlier, every few years when we have a "down year" we get someone saying stupid stuff about Scalf, and he always seems to prove them wrong.

Your idiotic "We aren't recruiting anybody!" argument is completely flawed. We just came off a year where 2 kids from Spartanburg Methodist, a school that previously Charleston was able to put a rope around in recruiting, were huge factors in our Regional Final run, and one of them got taken in the first 10 rounds. We have a really good young catcher in Jeffers and another one one the way in the next recruiting class. I already mentioned Feight and Mims, two 2015 recruits. And another newcomer this year, Gunner Deal, has SEC-level closer stuff that he'll be showing off over the next 3 years. In no way, shape, or form are you even close to accurate when you talk about our recruiting. The number of UNCW players who get drafted every year (and recruits who get taken out of HS as well) back that up as well.

You're wrong on every count. At least if you're going to be wrong, present some things that are actually truthful, and not hot garbage.
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RE: Baseball @ # 19 EZU (Tuesday, 6:30 PM)
I expect more support for a program that has done so much with so little. How about you digging deep and helping out more financially than criticizing a highly underpaid coaching staff. It was just a few years ago our players were dressing out of their cars. We are finally on the verge of having an indoor batting facility. You know, things that help in recruiting. So please, don't come on here acting like you know what's up.
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RE: Baseball @ # 19 EZU (Tuesday, 6:30 PM)
We also had a commit from the #1 player in the state who was all about UNCW. But the draft and the money got him.
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Baseball @ # 19 EZU (Tuesday, 6:30 PM)
Beachbum, you can have your opinion and thus far it hasn't crossed a line regardless of what I personally think about it. However, my best and honest recommendation for you is to get involved in more positive UNCW posts before you sling some dirt. It'll come across just a tad better.

You have to understand we are a close bunch and rarely get new posters. We ask very little of folks, but negativity towards one of our most successful and underfunded coaches... We ain't gonna agree or look to hug you into acceptance.
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RE: Baseball @ # 19 EZU (Tuesday, 6:30 PM)
(03-30-2016 04:03 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  Beachbum, you can have your opinion and thus far it hasn't crossed a line regardless of what I personally think about it. However, my best and honest recommendation for you is to get involved in more positive UNCW posts before you sling some dirt. It'll come across just a tad better.

You have to understand we are a close bunch and rarely get new posters. We ask very little of folks, but negativity towards one of our most successful and underfunded coaches... We ain't gonna agree or look to hug you into acceptance.

Wasn't looking for hugs or acceptance. I thought it was a discussion board so I posted my opinion. An yes, My opinion is that we can do much better. The others around us are, so why not us? Complacency is deadly. Everyone seems to be happy with a few weekday wins against top 25 teams, and some regional appearnces. Why don't we expect more? I'll ask again, what are your expectations?
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RE: Baseball @ # 19 EZU (Tuesday, 6:30 PM)
(03-30-2016 02:40 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  What programs would be firing Scalf for 7 Regional appearances (and 4 Regional Finals appearances) in 13 years? Given our average RPI of about 40 in that span, we're basically at the level of a middle of the pack SEC or ACC team as a program, and are only getting better.

I get that you want to set the bar higher. I really do; it's the only thing you're saying that makes any sense. No one wants to be complacent; everyone wants us hosting Regionals and getting to the Super Regionals and beyond. But you don't get there by firing the coach that got us to this point and is continuing to get better and better players here. Who would come here, with the relatively limited resources we have, and basically be told "We want you to be a top 25 team basically every season or you're done"? Yeah, that would work swell.

Yes, I'm a Scalf fan and don't like when he gets under-appreciated. But I have good, hard evidence to say I'm on the correct side of this. As I said earlier, every few years when we have a "down year" we get someone saying stupid stuff about Scalf, and he always seems to prove them wrong.

Your idiotic "We aren't recruiting anybody!" argument is completely flawed. We just came off a year where 2 kids from Spartanburg Methodist, a school that previously Charleston was able to put a rope around in recruiting, were huge factors in our Regional Final run, and one of them got taken in the first 10 rounds. We have a really good young catcher in Jeffers and another one one the way in the next recruiting class. I already mentioned Feight and Mims, two 2015 recruits. And another newcomer this year, Gunner Deal, has SEC-level closer stuff that he'll be showing off over the next 3 years. In no way, shape, or form are you even close to accurate when you talk about our recruiting. The number of UNCW players who get drafted every year (and recruits who get taken out of HS as well) back that up as well.

You're wrong on every count. At least if you're going to be wrong, present some things that are actually truthful, and not hot garbage.

7 appearances in 14 years would get most coaches around us fired. I.e. Billy Godwin. I believe he even hosted one and generally made the championship game.
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Baseball @ # 19 EZU (Tuesday, 6:30 PM)
(03-30-2016 04:11 PM)Beachbum Wrote:  
(03-30-2016 04:03 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  Beachbum, you can have your opinion and thus far it hasn't crossed a line regardless of what I personally think about it. However, my best and honest recommendation for you is to get involved in more positive UNCW posts before you sling some dirt. It'll come across just a tad better.

You have to understand we are a close bunch and rarely get new posters. We ask very little of folks, but negativity towards one of our most successful and underfunded coaches... We ain't gonna agree or look to hug you into acceptance.

Wasn't looking for hugs or acceptance. I thought it was a discussion board so I posted my opinion. An yes, My opinion is that we can do much better. The others around us are, so why not us? Complacency is deadly. Everyone seems to be happy with a few weekday wins against top 25 teams, and some regional appearnces. Why don't we expect more? I'll ask again, what are your expectations?

Fair enough. How about we at least let the season play out. To answer your question though, our expectations are generally the same as ANY D1 program.

1. Win your league
2. Get to the post season (by at large if necessary) to give yourself a chance.

Look around the rest of the CAA and ask yourself if they feel Scalf is a subpar coach. He's the most underfunded baseball program in the league, I believe. And still kicking arse.

I ask you now... how do you propose we do better?
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(03-30-2016 07:18 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  CG,
This is the part of the job that I will never miss. You've got guys beating their chest over a mid week game that they threw their weekend guy on. Highlights, really...on a UNCW board? Funny stuff.

I didn't see any of them beating their chests. Quite the opposite actually. It was us making a big deal out of them throwing a weekend guy, not them.
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RE: Baseball @ # 19 EZU (Tuesday, 6:30 PM)
LET"S GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT...I have never defended or HAD to defend Scalf throwing a weekend guy because I've never seen him (or can't remember a time) do it to start a weekday game. And if he were to do it, I'd bet that he wouldn't leave him in there for 6 innings to potentially waste him for an upcoming weekend series. I could understand a scenario like that as it would make some sense to iron out mechanics and to get confidence back (1 or 2 innings). To go 5-6 innings or whatever he did, was too much.

How do you know so much about ECU...such as UNCW shelled an ECU guy coming off of Tommy John? What? Who keeps up with ECU unless that person is an ECU fan to know that? A true UNCW baseball fan would never post like what you've done here and try to stir up junk with true UNCW fans. Next time, get your facts straight about the team and don't falsely accuse people of things that they've never done. That's BS and true UNCW fans (any fans home board) shouldn't have to deal with such.
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RE: Baseball @ # 19 EZU (Tuesday, 6:30 PM)
Fellow UNCW fans please keep this in mind. Trolls are like seagulls. Don't feed them and they will eventually go bug someone else
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(03-30-2016 08:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Fellow UNCW fans please keep this in mind. Trolls are like seagulls. Don't feed them and they will eventually go bug someone else

Understood. Just wasn't going to let blatantly false statements about Coach Scalf go by. I've put the guy on ignore now.
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Baseball @ # 19 EZU (Tuesday, 6:30 PM)
(03-30-2016 10:47 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(03-30-2016 08:13 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Fellow UNCW fans please keep this in mind. Trolls are like seagulls. Don't feed them and they will eventually go bug someone else

Understood. Just wasn't going to let blatantly false statements about Coach Scalf go by. I've put the guy on ignore now.

He hasn't responded since I answered his question and asked him one.

If he comes back I'll deal with him. Fairly clear at this point he is either an ecu fan or a troll. His tag is telling too, IMO.
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RE: Baseball @ # 19 EZU (Tuesday, 6:30 PM)
Scalf does a good job with the cash he has to work but I get it and this guy is not the only person around who thinks UNCW can be better. I like the way the team plays but the facility is an eyesore and has to kill recruiting,no way they get a regional here until the place has a complete makeover. The expectation should be to get better as a whole and they have improved. When Scalf decides to step aside I hope they don't give the job to Hood unless he is the best candidate for the job. I think they can do better than Hood.
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RE: Baseball @ # 19 EZU (Tuesday, 6:30 PM)
The improvement plans are there. Just need money. They will be starting on the new $2M indoor batting facility soon. And I'll take Randy Hood anyday. He knows baseball and is loyal to the program. I just hope we can hold on to our pitching coach. Williams has worked wonders with our pitchers. There are very few, if any, programs that do so much with so little. Financial resources are the key. Without that, no coach will come in and do better than Scalf and Hood.
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RE: Baseball @ # 19 EZU (Tuesday, 6:30 PM)
(03-30-2016 07:28 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  LET"S GET SOMETHING STRAIGHT...I have never defended or HAD to defend Scalf throwing a weekend guy because I've never seen him (or can't remember a time) do it to start a weekday game. And if he were to do it, I'd bet that he wouldn't leave him in there for 6 innings to potentially waste him for an upcoming weekend series. I could understand a scenario like that as it would make some sense to iron out mechanics and to get confidence back (1 or 2 innings). To go 5-6 innings or whatever he did, was too much.

How do you know so much about ECU...such as UNCW shelled an ECU guy coming off of Tommy John? What? Who keeps up with ECU unless that person is an ECU fan to know that? A true UNCW baseball fan would never post like what you've done here and try to stir up junk with true UNCW fans. Next time, get your facts straight about the team and don't falsely accuse people of things that they've never done. That's BS and true UNCW fans (any fans home board) shouldn't have to deal with such.
It's called paying attention to college baseball. I am involved in the "system" and deal with them from the time they are about 15 YOA to the time they go to college. I also know a lot about UNC, NCstate, Wake, CofC and coastal. Does that make me fans of them? ECU did not burn their pitcher for the weekend. he threw 24 pitches last saturday and got shelled, so they brought him in for this game and we will again pitch on Sunday. (my guess)
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And it's amazing just what bringing in hot food trucks have done with the fans. The field itself is great. But the lighting and the bathrooms need to be addressed. Rebuilding the stands are also on the plans. It just takes money. If only a big company or three were to buy in. That's what did it for Coastal.
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Beach bum, find something else to talk about or you're done here. Final warning.
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(03-31-2016 09:40 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  Beach bum, find something else to talk about or you're done here. Final warning.

Wow, what a sensitive group. All is well, baseball is exactly where it should be. Carry on and enjoy.
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(03-31-2016 09:13 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  The improvement plans are there. Just need money. They will be starting on the new $2M indoor batting facility soon. And I'll take Randy Hood anyday. He knows baseball and is loyal to the program. I just hope we can hold on to our pitching coach. Williams has worked wonders with our pitchers. There are very few, if any, programs that do so much with so little. Financial resources are the key. Without that, no coach will come in and do better than Scalf and Hood.

We've always had really good pitching coaches, but it's sort of been a "revolving door" as they end up at bigger programs. It would certainly be nice to have a little more continuity there. Money, like it does for most things, should fix that.
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RE: Baseball @ # 19 EZU (Tuesday, 6:30 PM)
Actually, we have had good pitching coaches. But not all. Players did not like or get along with the previous coach. Matt has helped some of our recent pitchers improve and get to the next level.
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