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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
(01-22-2016 01:04 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  So when we don't shoot well we lose. We shoot well we win. Riveting analysis. :)

My point was that our shooting has improved because we're either driving or getting good looks rather than forcing threes. Not that we can win without shooting well.

The real problem is our defense is not producing the TO's that lead to fast break points. Teams then settle into a zone and we do live or die by the 3 at that point. Keatts looks for 1/3 of our points to come off steals/TO's on the break, and we aren't even close to that number in CAA play. We're not built to be a half court team, and if we don't start putting up points on the break, we're a candidate for a 1st game exit.

Here's the number you need to know in CAA play.

Fast Break Points

UNCW 47
Opponents 55

We've been outscored in in fast break points in 4 of the 7 games, with W&M dusting us 16-0. ZERO. Towson, NU and W&M had 33 combined to our 15(top teams). We only won the fast break battle against Delaware the first game, Elon and Drexel(bottom dwellers), and Delaware had more last night, 7-2.

That is OUR game. That's what the press is supposed to produce, and we're losing that battle and haven't even faced the hardest part of the schedule.

I don's see my analysis as pessimistic, just realistic based on facts.
01-22-2016 02:29 PM
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
That stems from the "token" aspect of the press. For whatever reason, it seems to be just pressuring the inbound pass and then backing off, not trapping as we used too. Not sure what changed.
01-22-2016 02:52 PM
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
So, you don't think it has something to do with the friggin whistle happy refs? I saw calls last night on our guys in the press for grabbing. Even though they had their arms up in the air.
01-22-2016 03:36 PM
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
Let's say it's the refs and this new "hands off" directive. Sounds to me like we have a team that was built for hands on pressing, a coach who knows hands on pressing, players recruited for hands on pressing, and a style that is now doomed to fail from the opening whistle

Does this sound like a winning style? Is the "adjustment" to abandon the very core of the Keatts system and hope we can 3 point shoot our way to wins against a zone? It's still my opinion that the 4 guard lineup with two 6 footers, two 6'5" players, and an immobile 7 footer do not a pressing/trapping team make. Our starting lineup has the size of low level Div I teams, and we then bring in another 6 footer in Ponder, along with Bryan who is a power forward to play center.

I'd love to see us get back to this, and see if we can press and rebound again.

Talley, Bryce, Flemmings, Sherwood, Bryan.

Instead of 6'0"., 6'0"., 6'5", 6'5", 7'0", we go 6'0", 6'5", 6'5", 6'9", 6'9". We can press/trap, defend and rebound with that team and still score. Bring Cacock, Chuck, Gettys, Ponder, Ingram, Matthews off the bench depending on the opponent and let's wear them down again.
01-22-2016 04:21 PM
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
(01-22-2016 03:36 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  So, you don't think it has something to do with the friggin whistle happy refs? I saw calls last night on our guys in the press for grabbing. Even though they had their arms up in the air.

I agree. Due to the new extreme enforcement on minor hand checking we had to make changes or else we were going to be screwed. See the ECU game as a great example, our fouls kept them in that game, we refused to adjust in the 2nd hafl to the ridiculous nature of which the refs were calling that game and we ended up losing.
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
I hope that's not the case. Because it means the end of the full court press/trap, and therefore the end of a strategy we brought Keatts to play at UNCW.

Ok then, now what?
01-22-2016 09:14 PM
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
Last I checked UNCW was 13-5 so they aren't terrible. I understand that we aren't getting TO's but they're winning anyway right now. They do need to play better D and press better for sure.
01-22-2016 09:24 PM
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Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
Keatts has won 2/3 of his CAA games since he arrived on campus, including winning the last 4 straight to improve to 5-2 in the 9th-ranked league in the nation....yet we're questioning his system? Jeeeez. Hate to see what it'll be like when we lose a couple games.
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01-23-2016 12:28 AM
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Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
(01-23-2016 12:28 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Keatts has won 2/3 of his CAA games since he arrived on campus, including winning the last 4 straight to improve to 5-2 in the 9th-ranked league in the nation....yet we're questioning his system? Jeeeez. Hate to see what it'll be like when we lose a couple games.

Exactly.

Everybody should relax on this a bit. We've been quite successful with Keatts here including right now during the "hand check foul" era. Let the whole season play out before we start saying the system has failed. We are 13-5!
01-23-2016 07:03 AM
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
You would think we were 5-13 and 0-7 in the CAA.
01-23-2016 08:25 AM
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
I've expressed my concerns. 8 losses in the CAA is where I see us going for those reasons. Hope i'm wrong.
01-23-2016 10:01 AM
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
You could very well be right. I hope not either. But I still like our direction.
01-23-2016 10:02 AM
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(01-23-2016 10:01 AM)82hawk Wrote:  I've expressed my concerns. 8 losses in the CAA is where I see us going for those reasons. Hope i'm wrong.

From 16-2 down to 10-8? I say the truth is in the middle. 12-6 sounds right to me. I'm not scared of JMU and I think we split with Hofstra. NU has also proven to be very beatable at home, and we won there last year too.
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