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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
(01-21-2016 11:49 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: The good thing about Thursday games is we have a much better chance at getting better officials. More ACC games are on Wednesdays. And you see what we get, as far as officials, on Saturdays.
The was my thought as to prob the main reason why they switched.
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
We are now favored by 14.
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
The change was made with the student athletes in mind and class time.
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
(01-21-2016 03:09 PM)82hawk Wrote: The change was made with the student athletes in mind and class time.
Selfishly i love it. Wednesday night games were brutal for my personal schedule
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Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
I'm gonna be sitting the game out tonight fellas. I spent 8 hours at the elementary school earlier, wife is working, and I'm just trying to keep three kids alive until she get home. I'll try and check in when I can.
Go Seahawks!
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
Hawks playing down to competition tonight. Ingram not hitting tonight. Hawks only up 7 but should be up by more.
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
About time Denzel!!
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
Hawks win against a zone D the whole game ( I'm assuming that they did that in the 1st half-didn't see that). Not a bad job attacking the zone overall. The offense was good enough because we have great shooters and didn't settle for the most part. The D has to continue to improve. They had that lefty that is so quick that lived in the paint. We need to play the screen and roll better. Not sure why we didn't show a zone look but I can understand that we need to continue to work on that aspect to get better at it. And, it made their game a bit quicker in the half court.
Hawks press didn't do much at all other than speed the game up. I'm not necessarily against that. If you feel like you are quicker, it's not a bad ploy. I did that with my oldest son's team just to speed the game up. Still, you have to get more mileage out of the press. Cacok , with his length and athleticism could be put in at times as a 3 man to give you another athlete....you could possibly throw in Matthews as well with his length and overall BBIQ plus his ability to score.
It was good to see Grundy step in and deliver. I'm glad that Coach put him in there because the team responded and he delivered too. This is a team effort and we have several parts. If it ain't quite working, you have some solutions or experiments. Grundy did well in his minutes...he was ready. That's good. He may start getting more minutes after seeing the deal for a while and he has some skills. Onto Drexel...if they can actually get there?
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
There was a theory advanced somewhere on these boards that Thursday night games would bring better officials due to the fact there would be no acc games. Last night proved that theory to be in error. Not the worst officiating but not far off. Touch fouls called and felonies overlooked. pi$$ poor at best.
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Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
The press hasn't worked at all in CAA play. And teams that have played zone the whole game have given us problems.
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
Yep Proff...they really messed that game up for sure.
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
(01-22-2016 08:39 AM)Proff Wrote: There was a theory advanced somewhere on these boards that Thursday night games would bring better officials due to the fact there would be no acc games. Last night proved that theory to be in error. Not the worst officiating but not far off. Touch fouls called and felonies overlooked. pi$$ poor at best.
That was not quite the theory. It's a fact that it creates a better opportunity to get good officials vs Wednesdays. But anytime Jerry Heater shows up, you can throw those chances out the window. History proves that he has done damage to us. Especially in tight games. He has hurt us numerous times throughout the years in games going down to the wire. He never fails to show how horrible he is.
(This post was last modified: 01-22-2016 09:13 AM by SEA33HAWK.)
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
(01-22-2016 08:41 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: The press hasn't worked at all in CAA play. And teams that have played zone the whole game have given us problems.
The press is less effective than it was in non-conference play? True statement.
Hasn't worked at all? False. Here's the top teams in the conference in turnovers forced thru 7 CAA-only games:
1. Drexel: 103 (14.7 per game)
2. UNCW: 102 (14.6)
3. Hofstra: 85 (12.1)
The press also gets teams out of their offensive rhythm, and leads to mental mistakes in the halfcourt. It also wears them down late in games, which will especially be true later in the season. The press isn't going away, and there's no real reason for that to happen.
As for the zone, we're currently shooting .382 from 3-pt range as a team in CAA play, best in the league (next best is Elon, .369). So if teams want to play zone against us all game, I say.....bring it.
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
(01-22-2016 09:52 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote: (01-22-2016 08:41 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: The press hasn't worked at all in CAA play. And teams that have played zone the whole game have given us problems.
The press is less effective than it was in non-conference play? True statement.
Hasn't worked at all? False. Here's the top teams in the conference in turnovers forced thru 7 CAA-only games:
1. Drexel: 103 (14.7 per game)
2. UNCW: 102 (14.6)
3. Hofstra: 85 (12.1)
The press also gets teams out of their offensive rhythm, and leads to mental mistakes in the halfcourt. It also wears them down late in games, which will especially be true later in the season. The press isn't going away, and there's no real reason for that to happen.
As for the zone, we're currently shooting .382 from 3-pt range as a team in CAA play, best in the league (next best is Elon, .369). So if teams want to play zone against us all game, I say.....bring it.
Law of averages 08. Shooting 60% from three one game and 20% the next still averages 40% and is the very definition of live by 3 die by 3. if we continue to shoot 3's at the rates we do we will advance as long as we stay hot. First bad game, toast. Last night 9 for 26, which allowed a much lesser team to keep it close.
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
I know that shooting so many threes is concerning. But, if I looked at it right, we have outscored most of our opponents in the paint.
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
(01-22-2016 10:20 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote: I know that shooting so many threes is concerning. But, if I looked at it right, we have outscored most of our opponents in the paint.
We're doing a lot better of knowing when to drive and when to shoot. The only guy I don't want shooting perimeters shots is Talley. Bryce and Flemmings have the best sense of when to shoot, take a pull-up jumper or drive. Those 2 are capable of creating their own scoring opportunities on their own. Ponder is capable of doing that as well.
That's part of the reason why our shooting is more sustainable than it was earlier in the season, unlike what Hoops is arguing. We're at least settling for better looks when we take 3's. We haven't mastered it, but we've improved for sure. And we aren't "living and dying" by the 3 quite like we had been in non-conference play.
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So i know you didn't take the time to look it up but numbers just don't support your argument. The only two times we have shot below 35% from 3 and won was vs a crappy Delaware team.
Drexel 6-12- W
NE 9-27 L
Towson 5-22 L
Del 7-21 W
Elon 11-24 W
Del 9-26 W
So the numbers prove that when we don't shoot well from 3 against anyone but Delaware, we lose. I'll be interested to look back on these numbers in another 5 games or so.
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So when we don't shoot well we lose. We shoot well we win. Riveting analysis. :)
My point was that our shooting has improved because we're either driving or getting good looks rather than forcing threes. Not that we can win without shooting well.
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RE: Delaware (part 2) - Game Thread
it's not just Shoot well, it's shoot well from 3. Big difference.
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(01-22-2016 01:43 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: it's not just Shoot well, it's shoot well from 3. Big difference.
I guess. Most of the basketball world seems to either drive to the rim to get layups or foul calls or shoot 3's. The midrange game is dying a slow death.
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