Never mind. Just read that article about Doug Overton.

(03-07-2016 12:13 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  Well, now we'll see a new era of Drexal basketball. Any ideas who Drexel has their eyes on Dan?

As a private school, they wont say anything. I am not close enough anymore to even hear rumors of who we want to interview or have interviewed as we go forward in the search. Based on Overton's twitter remark it was always assumed he was talking about Drexel or LaSalle, and LaSalle has shot down the notion pretty quickly. MetSox and his team over at his blog put together a good list, but no idea how many or if any are considered candidates. Bruiser ran a clean program and I think most of us want something similar from the character prospective. We also have our doubts that our AD has any clue what he is doing and will conduct a good/worthwhile search. Drexel certainly is not the easiest place to coach at for many reasons. Bruiser showed it can be done though.

http://dragonsspeak.blogspot.com/2016/02...ching.html

JMU fans sound a whole lot like NC State fans did with Herb. Go check out their threads

(03-07-2016 01:54 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  JMU fans sound a whole lot like NC State fans did with Herb. Go check out their threads

Not sure I agree with the comparison here. NC State fans were far more delusional. They think they belong on the same par as UNC and Duke, or close to it.

JMU fans merely think they shouldn't be always getting blown out against other top CAA teams, and should be more competitive.

Last season they went 0-6 against the top teams. This year started out more promising, but then injuries happened and they looked about the same as they had the previous year, before getting basically manhandled by W&M in the tournament.

With Curry gone next year they were headed for about a .500 record. So the question is/was....after 8 years of somewhat mixed results, do you let Brady try to build the team back up, when it appeared he has failed with the last couple recruiting classes? Or do you see if someone else can start from scratch and do better? Without actually being in their shoes, its hard for me to sit here and say they can't do better than Matt Brady.

(03-07-2016 02:05 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 01:54 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  JMU fans sound a whole lot like NC State fans did with Herb. Go check out their threads

Not sure I agree with the comparison here. NC State fans were far more delusional. They think they belong on the same par as UNC and Duke, or close to it.

JMU fans merely think they shouldn't be always getting blown out against other top CAA teams, and should be more competitive.

Last season they went 0-6 against the top teams. This year started out more promising, but then injuries happened and they looked about the same as they had the previous year, before getting basically manhandled by W&M in the tournament.

With Curry gone next year they were headed for about a .500 record. So the question is/was....after 8 years of somewhat mixed results, do you let Brady try to build the team back up, when it appeared he has failed with the last couple recruiting classes? Or do you see if someone else can start from scratch and do better? Without actually being in their shoes, its hard for me to sit here and say they can't do better than Matt Brady.

obviously comparing an ACC team to a CAA team is apples to oranges. My point was around the reason they ran him out of town. More, more more. Even though Herb always won games, just couldn't do it against UNC, Duke etc.
Same applies here. Brady won a ton of games but just not against the top.

Grass isn't always greener on the other side. I'd give this a 70% chance that who they hire won't win as many games as Brady.

(03-07-2016 02:08 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  obviously comparing an ACC team to a CAA team is apples to oranges. My point was around the reason they ran him out of town. More, more more. Even though Herb always won games, just couldn't do it against UNC, Duke etc.
Same applies here. Brady won a ton of games but just not against the top.

Grass isn't always greener on the other side. I'd give this a 70% chance that who they hire won't win as many games as Brady.

But it doesn't apply here BECAUSE of the apples/oranges situation. Failing to beat UNC and Duke is a LOT different than failing to beat W&M, UNCW, Hofstra and Northeastern. JMU should be on par with the top CAA teams on a fairly consistent basis, yet they seem to get punked in every big game against those schools every year.

As much as I despise both UNC and Duke, meanwhile, those schools transcend their conference by being members of basketball royalty, an exclusive club they reside in alongside the likes of Kansas and perhaps Indiana and UCLA (UCONN and Syracuse were probably at that level too). Very different situation.

Don't get it twisted, there is a growing population of JMUers who believe their above being "CAA". So delusional in fact, that it was mentioned on their board today (perhaps in jest, not sure) that upstaging the CAA final to announce the firing of Brady wouldn't be a big deal considering they hope not to be in the conference next year anyways.

Reading stuff like that makes me think JMU is the ECU of Virginia (with a better selection of female coeds though, lol).

(03-07-2016 02:11 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 02:08 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  obviously comparing an ACC team to a CAA team is apples to oranges. My point was around the reason they ran him out of town. More, more more. Even though Herb always won games, just couldn't do it against UNC, Duke etc.
Same applies here. Brady won a ton of games but just not against the top.

Grass isn't always greener on the other side. I'd give this a 70% chance that who they hire won't win as many games as Brady.

But it doesn't apply here BECAUSE of the apples/oranges situation. Failing to beat UNC and Duke is a LOT different than failing to beat W&M, UNCW, Hofstra and Northeastern. JMU should be on par with the top CAA teams on a fairly consistent basis, yet they seem to get punked in every big game against those schools every year.

As much as I despise both UNC and Duke, meanwhile, those schools transcend their conference by being members of basketball royalty. Very different situation.

Agree to disagree. 5 years from now when it doesn't work out, they will be left saying, "man i guess Brady wasn't that bad".

What is it about the color purple?

20 win coaches at mid majors don't grow on trees. We made a mistake getting rid of ours and they made a mistake getting rid of theirs. Good luck finding another one but don't be surprised if it takes 10 years

(03-07-2016 02:15 PM)solohawks Wrote:  What is it about the color purple?

20 win coaches at mid majors don't grow on trees. We made a mistake getting rid of ours and they made a mistake getting rid of theirs. Good luck finding another one but don't be surprised if it takes 10 years

Hasn't happened yet. Be patient. Lol

I guess I've just never been impressed with Brady. I don't see him
as a perennial "20 win coach", especially since they usually don't seem to have a particularly tough non-conference schedule most years.

What's more...he always seems to be blaming the players he recruits. Rarely does he seem to put losses on himself. Not the mark of a great coach. He's merely an OK one who put them in decent position as a program, better than they were before he arrived, but can never put them "over the top".

I think JMU fans are also very aware their Administration is kind of a mess. Very hard to take the next steps as a program when that is the case. We know that all too well from our past.

(03-07-2016 02:22 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  I guess I've just never been impressed with Brady. I don't see him
as a perennial "20 win coach", especially since they usually don't seem to have a particularly tough non-conference schedule most years.

What's more...he always seems to be blaming the players he recruits. Rarely does he seem to put losses on himself. Not the mark of a great coach. He's merely an OK one who put them in decent position as a program, better than they were before he arrived, but can never put them "over the top".

He did win a CAA tourney title a few years ago and had them in the dance. Just sayin...

(03-07-2016 02:40 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 02:22 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  I guess I've just never been impressed with Brady. I don't see him
as a perennial "20 win coach", especially since they usually don't seem to have a particularly tough non-conference schedule most years.

What's more...he always seems to be blaming the players he recruits. Rarely does he seem to put losses on himself. Not the mark of a great coach. He's merely an OK one who put them in decent position as a program, better than they were before he arrived, but can never put them "over the top".

He did win a CAA tourney title a few years ago and had them in the dance. Just sayin...

But but but We only won 20 games and got bounced by a strong W & M team this year

(03-07-2016 02:40 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 02:22 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  I guess I've just never been impressed with Brady. I don't see him
as a perennial "20 win coach", especially since they usually don't seem to have a particularly tough non-conference schedule most years.

What's more...he always seems to be blaming the players he recruits. Rarely does he seem to put losses on himself. Not the mark of a great coach. He's merely an OK one who put them in decent position as a program, better than they were before he arrived, but can never put them "over the top".

He did win a CAA tourney title a few years ago and had them in the dance. Just sayin...

That gets brought up a lot but was very flukey in my mind. JMU was 11-7 in CAA play that year, and the league was ranked 22nd in D-1. One season out of 8 where the Dukes did anything of note under Brady and it was maybe the worst year for the league in recent memory.

21,21,21, 19,21 in 8 seasons, is pretty damn good

(03-07-2016 03:50 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  21,21,21, 19,21 in 8 seasons, is pretty damn good

No no no. Brady should have won the Big East while playing in the CAA.

(03-07-2016 04:01 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  

(03-07-2016 03:50 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  21,21,21, 19,21 in 8 seasons, is pretty damn good

No no no. Brady should have won the Big East while playing in the CAA.

damnit, ya got me again....

He hasn't broken John woodens record yet? Slacker!

(03-07-2016 02:22 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  I don't see him
as a perennial "20 win coach",

So i guess 4 of 8 with one 19 win season in there doesn't qualify?