(10-11-2015 08:36 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  App fans just need to look at the film and you will have a much clearer understanding of what is going to happen in Boone.

Haha, I've watched every snap of both teams except the WVU game (didn't need to watch the film on that one, yikes...). You are underestimating our defense if you think you are going to gash us all day. I'm not going to say you can't move the ball, but it will be harder than you think. App has the best defense across the board in the SBC (and it's not close). If you don't think Clemson averaging only 3.2 YPC means something, I don't know what to tell you.

(10-11-2015 09:26 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(10-11-2015 08:36 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  App fans just need to look at the film and you will have a much clearer understanding of what is going to happen in Boone.

Haha, I've watched every snap of both teams except the WVU game (didn't need to watch the film on that one, yikes...). You are underestimating our defense if you think you are going to gash us all day. I'm not going to say you can't move the ball, but it will be harder than you think. App has the best defense across the board in the SBC (and it's not close). If you don't think Clemson averaging only 3.2 YPC means something, I don't know what to tell you.

I watched that Wyoming RB eating up real estate in chunks on his way to 200. And he is no Breida.

Probably the only game you have watched all year. Last I checked you guys are on the complete opposite end of the running game spectrum from the power running game we saw against them. We were up big early in a monsoon game. Not exactly ideal conditions to stop the run (just avoid the big play, let them eat up clock, and get out of there). If we are talking defensive struggles I'm pretty confident you have more skeletons in your closet than we do.

(10-11-2015 03:08 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  There is no getting around the fact that App's wins are against the #166, 170 and 186 teams. You play the #126 team this week so it is a moderate step up in competition.

Yes but we're beating the hell out of them.

(10-11-2015 09:11 PM)hapapp Wrote:  Oct 17 App State @ ULM
Ga Southern v. NMSU

Everything else is foolish talk at this point.

+1

*Watching App and GS marking their territory on the virtual tree!*

I'm pleased at how we have played to date but let's face it at least half the conference would be 4-1 playing the schedule we have played to date.

(10-12-2015 06:40 AM)hapapp Wrote:  I'm pleased at how we have played to date but let's face it at least half the conference would be 4-1 playing the schedule we have played to date.

Point taken , but would anyone else have a 166-16 spread against the 4 teams we have beaten? That 2nd number in particular.

(10-11-2015 08:36 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  App fans just need to look at the film and you will have a much clearer understanding of what is going to happen in Boone.

(10-12-2015 07:06 AM)appstate70 Wrote:  

(10-11-2015 08:36 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  App fans just need to look at the film and you will have a much clearer understanding of what is going to happen in Boone.

Yep, no need for App to show up for this game, because clearly the film shows that GS should be right up there with the elite teams in the FBS.

What's this? Discussion of the current season and the upcoming game between GS and App fans? This just isn't right. Someone change the subject to past championships and the series record and beastiality and incest.

(10-12-2015 07:20 AM)appstate70 Wrote:  

(10-12-2015 07:06 AM)appstate70 Wrote:  

(10-11-2015 08:36 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  App fans just need to look at the film and you will have a much clearer understanding of what is going to happen in Boone.

Yep, no need for App to show up for this game, because clearly the film shows that GS should be right up there with the elite teams in the FBS.

We were watching the game on TV while he was watching "the film." I didn't realize Todd Mcshay was a Stink fan.

(10-12-2015 09:53 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(10-12-2015 07:20 AM)appstate70 Wrote:  

(10-12-2015 07:06 AM)appstate70 Wrote:  

(10-11-2015 08:36 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  App fans just need to look at the film and you will have a much clearer understanding of what is going to happen in Boone.

Yep, no need for App to show up for this game, because clearly the film shows that GS should be right up there with the elite teams in the FBS.

We were watching the game on TV while he was watching "the film." I didn't realize Todd Mcshay was a Stink fan.

And that based on "the film," we should be able to glean what will happen in Boone on 10/22. I'm just waiting on him to tell us what exactly that is. I have a feeling he's only watched one game (a 31-13 blowout win with a garbage time TD in which we were on cruise control). I'm wondering if he could tell from the film that Brian Hill and Matt Breida are completely different backs and their scheme was in no way, shape, or form similar to what Southern runs. Yet holding a top 10 team to 3.2 YPC is somehow not relevant to the conversation.

(10-12-2015 10:42 AM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  And that based on "the film," we should be able to glean what will happen in Boone on 10/22. I'm just waiting on him to tell us what exactly that is. I have a feeling he's only watched one game (a 31-13 blowout win with a garbage time TD in which we were on cruise control). I'm wondering if he could tell from the film that Brian Hill and Matt Breida are completely different backs and their scheme was in no way, shape, or form similar to what Southern runs. Yet holding a top 10 team to 3.2 YPC is somehow not relevant to the conversation.

I'm not arguing against the strength of your defense because I definitely think they are the best in the belt but I looked something up real quick and figured I was right. Clemson averaged almost 5 yards a carry (not including sacks) until they were up 38-0. So most of that stoppage happened after they'd practically shut down the offense. And yes, I watched the game. It's still impressive considering they are a top10 team but you didn't really shut them down until they had a 38 point lead...

(10-12-2015 11:42 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(10-12-2015 10:42 AM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  And that based on "the film," we should be able to glean what will happen in Boone on 10/22. I'm just waiting on him to tell us what exactly that is. I have a feeling he's only watched one game (a 31-13 blowout win with a garbage time TD in which we were on cruise control). I'm wondering if he could tell from the film that Brian Hill and Matt Breida are completely different backs and their scheme was in no way, shape, or form similar to what Southern runs. Yet holding a top 10 team to 3.2 YPC is somehow not relevant to the conversation.

I'm not arguing against the strength of your defense because I definitely think they are the best in the belt but I looked something up real quick and figured I was right. Clemson averaged almost 5 yards a carry (not including sacks) until they were up 38-0. So most of that stoppage happened after they'd practically shut down the offense. And yes, I watched the game. It's still impressive considering they are a top10 team but you didn't really shut them down until they had a 38 point lead...

You got me there. You should teach your fellow eagle how to make such astute deductions to back up a statement. I will still take the 3.2 against Clemson as a positive, but you certainly make a good point about them letting off the gas a little. As you mention, there is still little question as to who owns the top defense in the league.

(10-12-2015 11:54 AM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(10-12-2015 11:42 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(10-12-2015 10:42 AM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  And that based on "the film," we should be able to glean what will happen in Boone on 10/22. I'm just waiting on him to tell us what exactly that is. I have a feeling he's only watched one game (a 31-13 blowout win with a garbage time TD in which we were on cruise control). I'm wondering if he could tell from the film that Brian Hill and Matt Breida are completely different backs and their scheme was in no way, shape, or form similar to what Southern runs. Yet holding a top 10 team to 3.2 YPC is somehow not relevant to the conversation.

I'm not arguing against the strength of your defense because I definitely think they are the best in the belt but I looked something up real quick and figured I was right. Clemson averaged almost 5 yards a carry (not including sacks) until they were up 38-0. So most of that stoppage happened after they'd practically shut down the offense. And yes, I watched the game. It's still impressive considering they are a top10 team but you didn't really shut them down until they had a 38 point lead...

You got me there. You should teach your fellow eagle how to make such astute deductions to back up a statement. I will still take the 3.2 against Clemson as a positive, but you certainly make a good point about them letting off the gas a little. As you mention, there is still little question as to who owns the top defense in the league.

Let me go check out that statistically dominating performance against #238 Howard Bison. I'm sure there are some impressive highlights!

That's fair, it seemed like we were shutting down the run the whole game though, besides a big one or two. Why not include sacks though?

(10-12-2015 11:57 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(10-12-2015 11:54 AM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  

(10-12-2015 11:42 AM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  

(10-12-2015 10:42 AM)asucrutch23 Wrote:  And that based on "the film," we should be able to glean what will happen in Boone on 10/22. I'm just waiting on him to tell us what exactly that is. I have a feeling he's only watched one game (a 31-13 blowout win with a garbage time TD in which we were on cruise control). I'm wondering if he could tell from the film that Brian Hill and Matt Breida are completely different backs and their scheme was in no way, shape, or form similar to what Southern runs. Yet holding a top 10 team to 3.2 YPC is somehow not relevant to the conversation.

I'm not arguing against the strength of your defense because I definitely think they are the best in the belt but I looked something up real quick and figured I was right. Clemson averaged almost 5 yards a carry (not including sacks) until they were up 38-0. So most of that stoppage happened after they'd practically shut down the offense. And yes, I watched the game. It's still impressive considering they are a top10 team but you didn't really shut them down until they had a 38 point lead...

You got me there. You should teach your fellow eagle how to make such astute deductions to back up a statement. I will still take the 3.2 against Clemson as a positive, but you certainly make a good point about them letting off the gas a little. As you mention, there is still little question as to who owns the top defense in the league.

Let me go check out that statistically dominating performance against #238 Howard Bison. I'm sure there are some impressive highlights!

Hey, you've watched the film* I can't tell you anything you don't already know












*Wyoming game only

For the record no App fan has ever said we shut down Clemson, but we played them on defense as well as anyone had so far this season. believe Clemson only scored 17 points the entire game on drives over 50 yds, I watched the first half, they had a lot of trouble moving the ball, including 2 3 and 1 where we stuffed them for no gain. What killed us was the turnovers in our side of the field, and Clemson didn't pull the starters until the 4th. As far as the game, it became apparent about mid second quarter we had almost no chance to win, but the score doesn't reflect how well we played, and we held our own against a team that has a good shot at making the playoffs

(10-12-2015 12:02 PM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  That's fair, it seemed like we were shutting down the run the whole game though, besides a big one or two. Why not include sacks though?

IMO a sack should go down in the record books as an incomplete pass not a negative run play (when it's obvious the QB was attempting to throw the ball). However understand the gray area there about whether or not the QB had intentions to run.

Just wanted to get a better idea of what your defense was doing when they were ACTUALLY running the ball. That's all.