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RE: SBC long term plan
(09-02-2015 10:12 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(09-02-2015 08:17 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 08:56 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  The long term plan should be to have the requirement to play football to be a member of the conference. That way the conference mirrors all of the other FBS conferences. So UTA and UALR will have to add football or find another conference.

Many changes are coming up in the FBS conferences and UTA/UALR will find it harder to stay a competitive member later down the road.
Not right to kick out members who have honored the terms of the agreement they made to join the league, IMHO.

But yes any new members will have to join on an all-sports basis, football included.

Seem like the NMSU/Idaho deal will go on a while longer. I'm guessing the SBC wants to stay at 12 members for football, and if you kick out Idaho you'll have to bring in UMASS or an FCS start-up. Presumably the Belt would've done that already if it wanted to.

We adopted the requirement of having 15 league sports and all new members having football several years ago. We added UTA after that and did nothing when UALR dropped to 14 sports.

Color me skeptical that we re-adopt that and are serious about it.
The bylaws are just guidelines anyway.
09-02-2015 10:16 AM
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RE: SBC long term plan
If NMSU and Idaho continue to win 1 or 2 games per year and drag down the conferences rpi and sargin ratings the SBC would be forced to cut bait I assume b/c the two would be potentially costing other members money b/c of G5 conference rank.
09-02-2015 12:28 PM
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RE: SBC long term plan
(09-01-2015 10:05 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Add Missouri State and Eastern Kentucky for all sports, add the rest of New Mexico State, and then add Wichita State for all sports but football. Boot Idaho if UALR, UTA, or WSU starts football. Send multiple teams to the big dance each year.

NMSU/WSU
UTA/TXST
UALR/ARST
ULL/ULM
MSU/EKU
USA/TROY
APP/CCU
GS/GSU

Aside from making a 14/16 league, this would be awesome, but Missouri State has no interest in us, and Wichita State would probably laugh at the proposal. I would like to get NMSU in all sports though. Maybe add NMSU all sports and drop one of the basketball only schools? Straight forward and will keep us at 12/12. Woukd make it tricky though if Idaho ever left. The other basketball school would have to either add football or leave also. And we'd have to add another school.
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RE: SBC long term plan
(09-02-2015 10:16 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(09-02-2015 10:12 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(09-02-2015 08:17 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 08:56 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  The long term plan should be to have the requirement to play football to be a member of the conference. That way the conference mirrors all of the other FBS conferences. So UTA and UALR will have to add football or find another conference.

Many changes are coming up in the FBS conferences and UTA/UALR will find it harder to stay a competitive member later down the road.
Not right to kick out members who have honored the terms of the agreement they made to join the league, IMHO.

But yes any new members will have to join on an all-sports basis, football included.

Seem like the NMSU/Idaho deal will go on a while longer. I'm guessing the SBC wants to stay at 12 members for football, and if you kick out Idaho you'll have to bring in UMASS or an FCS start-up. Presumably the Belt would've done that already if it wanted to.

We adopted the requirement of having 15 league sports and all new members having football several years ago. We added UTA after that and did nothing when UALR dropped to 14 sports.

Color me skeptical that we re-adopt that and are serious about it.
The bylaws are just guidelines anyway.


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RE: SBC long term plan
I know if mention basketball I will be pelted with things, but... so if shooty hoops drops to 16 games from 20, how hard will it be to schedule OOC home games? Does it mean we basically take two home games and kiss them good bye or will it be the resurgence of the D-II on everyone's schedule?
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(09-02-2015 03:40 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  I know if mention basketball I will be pelted with things, but... so if shooty hoops drops to 16 games from 20, how hard will it be to schedule OOC home games? Does it mean we basically take two home games and kiss them good bye or will it be the resurgence of the D-II on everyone's schedule?

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RE: SBC long term plan
(09-02-2015 04:08 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(09-02-2015 03:40 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  I know if mention basketball I will be pelted with things, but... so if shooty hoops drops to 16 games from 20, how hard will it be to schedule OOC home games? Does it mean we basically take two home games and kiss them good bye or will it be the resurgence of the D-II on everyone's schedule?

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2fer1, 3fer1, host a classic, anything to get home games. In the past South has had bigger schools come in, Auburn, LSU, Wisconsin. Call up your local CUSA team, there are a lot of DI basketball programs out there, any of them will do. Win some games and other teams might be willing to schedule us for home and homes.
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RE: SBC long term plan
i talked to a member of our athletic department yesterday and in course of conversation I asked him if he thought Idaho and NMSU will be renewed for 2 more years or allowed to go their own way after 2017. It was his opinion that either both will be extended or both released. His opinion was both would be extended thru 2019
09-03-2015 02:34 PM
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(09-03-2015 02:34 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  i talked to a member of our athletic department yesterday and in course of conversation I asked him if he thought Idaho and NMSU will be renewed for 2 more years or allowed to go their own way after 2017. It was his opinion that either both will be extended or both released. His opinion was both would be extended thru 2019

Was that before or after Idaho's game last night?
09-04-2015 07:09 AM
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RE: SBC long term plan
(09-02-2015 04:08 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(09-02-2015 03:40 PM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  I know if mention basketball I will be pelted with things, but... so if shooty hoops drops to 16 games from 20, how hard will it be to schedule OOC home games? Does it mean we basically take two home games and kiss them good bye or will it be the resurgence of the D-II on everyone's schedule?

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Let us pray not there should be a ban on those games outside of a preseason tune up.
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(09-02-2015 02:07 AM)TheMackAttack Wrote:  I really don't see us giving UTA or UALR the boot. I think the solution is NMSU all sports, another full member with football in the west, and drop Idaho. I'm not picky about who, you guys out west can tell me who the best fit is. Then two non-football schools in the east - North Florida, Florida Gulf Coast, College of Charleston, Winthrop, UNC-Greensboro, etc. Pods for Olympic sports. And profit.

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