(08-27-2015 10:29 AM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:06 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 07:44 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  If this happens it will be an SBC bowl. Let the bus league western division crying begin.

And, let me be the first to welcome Coastal Carolina to the SBC.

Seriously? This crap is getting old, largest fan base of 7th grade girls in the nation.

Yep that's us! If we're painting with broad brushes here, I can safely say that Arkansas State has the biggest collection of fans who vastly overestimate the talent they have (which is by far the most in the SBC).

Chill, it was a little shot against the Texas State fans that say we need to go back to the bus league every time realignment is brought up.

With that said, this bowl isn't good for Texas State, but a bowl west of the Mississippi isn't good for us. Something has to give.

Um, no, we don't want a bus league. We want a good oly sports team, that's been here before, brought back in.

Pray tell, what, in your opinion, defines a "bus league?" Is it by miles? Travel time? Bus vs plane trip? I got numbers here and it shows adding NMSU won't change TXSTs travel much and it won't make a hell of a difference for football, for anyone. It would be a rotating schedule for everyone (on opposite sides of the conf) so you wouldn't be traveling to the farthest reaches of the conference but maybe once every 4/5 years (for football). The rest of the sports puts the same burden on everyone.

To address the bowl situation, though, why would another eastern Bowl, given the bowl committee parameters, be more beneficial to TXST? They want teams that are close/will travel well. What makes anyone think a SC Bowl committee is going to take a chance on TXST when the Camelia or GoDaddy (which are closer) wouldn't?

The only way we get a Bowl is if not enough teams can fill or we go 8-4, 9-3, or win conference. That was proven last year. 7-5 with no Bowl travel history will get another 7-5 or 6-6, that is closer, in over us.

(08-27-2015 10:38 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:00 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:31 AM)chantzilla Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:22 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:06 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Seriously? This crap is getting old, largest fan base of 7th grade girls in the nation.

You don't see the irony? Some western division fans of schools that are actually in a bus league calling fans in the east that want the same thing "bus league".

Again, welcome Coastal.

I apologize for my ignorance 92, but what's up with this "Welcome Coastal" stuff?

Speculation or concrete??

Don't know how I can be any more clear.

I'm unclear so I have a suggestion. :)

Select the one that most closely matches your intent.

a) I have heard from a reliable source that there is a consensus that Coastal will be the next school invited to the Sun Belt.

or

b) Based on the information I've read / seen / heard I believe Coastal will be the next member of the Sun Belt Conference.

I choose "C": All of the above.

The best "new bowl" option on the western side of the conference is Little Rock. Once they figure out how to get it together, it will be there. Until then, enjoy the idea of another bowl coming on line and giving more opportunities.

(08-27-2015 10:38 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:00 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:31 AM)chantzilla Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:22 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:06 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Seriously? This crap is getting old, largest fan base of 7th grade girls in the nation.

You don't see the irony? Some western division fans of schools that are actually in a bus league calling fans in the east that want the same thing "bus league".

Again, welcome Coastal.

I apologize for my ignorance 92, but what's up with this "Welcome Coastal" stuff?

Speculation or concrete??

Don't know how I can be any more clear.

I'm unclear so I have a suggestion. :)

Select the one that most closely matches your intent.

a) I have heard from a reliable source that there is a consensus that Coastal will be the next school invited to the Sun Belt.

or

b) Based on the information I've read / seen / heard I believe Coastal will be the next member of the Sun Belt Conference.

C: App State is voting for Coastal.

What the rest of the leagues does is anybody's guess.

It's official, just need to lineup FBS Conferences. I'd think there will be loose ties with two conferences but will become another ESPN bowl-pool bowl where many conferences participate similar to the Boca, Bahamas, etc. bowls...
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(08-27-2015 12:53 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  

It's official, just need to lineup FBS Conferences. I'd think there will be loose ties with two conferences but will become another ESPN bowl-pool bowl where many conferences participate similar to the Boca, Bahamas, etc. bowls...
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Does the NCAA require new bowls fill a certified need anymore. If that's the case then it would seem likely that the Belt vs CUSA would be your likely matchup.

(08-27-2015 08:06 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 07:44 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  If this happens it will be an SBC bowl. Let the bus league western division crying begin.

And, let me be the first to welcome Coastal Carolina to the SBC.

Seriously? This crap is getting old, largest fan base of 7th grade girls in the nation.

I agree. The constant wringing of hands against App State because 2 App posters gripe about travel is getting old. Let.It.Go.

Charleston is great, and I'd love to see a bowl game there. I also hope they add one in Arkansas or Texas. Six SBC bowl tie-ins across the footprint is a perfect scenario.

(08-27-2015 09:27 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:22 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:06 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 07:44 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  If this happens it will be an SBC bowl. Let the bus league western division crying begin.

And, let me be the first to welcome Coastal Carolina to the SBC.

Seriously? This crap is getting old, largest fan base of 7th grade girls in the nation.

You don't see the irony? Some western division fans of schools that are actually in a bus league calling fans in the east that want the same thing "bus league".

Again, welcome Coastal.

A few App State fans have developed a habit of complaining about the silliest things. Quit acting like App was promised something, you were not. Each school in the league has their own idea of what the league should look like. Also, speaking on behalf of a Western Division School...we get very few bus rides to begin with. We have to fly most places in the league. That's something App should have realized when they joined...

Coastal may get in, EKU may get in, NMSU may get in, No one may get in. We really don't know, and we won't know until the Presidents vote.

I'm pretty sure every App State administrator and fan, besides two posters here, did know that. Don't act like this is an entire fanbase thing. Seriously.

(08-27-2015 11:04 AM)CatMom Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 10:29 AM)BurlingtonApp Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:06 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 07:44 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  If this happens it will be an SBC bowl. Let the bus league western division crying begin.

And, let me be the first to welcome Coastal Carolina to the SBC.

Seriously? This crap is getting old, largest fan base of 7th grade girls in the nation.

Yep that's us! If we're painting with broad brushes here, I can safely say that Arkansas State has the biggest collection of fans who vastly overestimate the talent they have (which is by far the most in the SBC).

Chill, it was a little shot against the Texas State fans that say we need to go back to the bus league every time realignment is brought up.

With that said, this bowl isn't good for Texas State, but a bowl west of the Mississippi isn't good for us. Something has to give.

Um, no, we don't want a bus league. We want a good oly sports team, that's been here before, brought back in.

Pray tell, what, in your opinion, defines a "bus league?" Is it by miles? Travel time? Bus vs plane trip? I got numbers here and it shows adding NMSU won't change TXSTs travel much and it won't make a hell of a difference for football, for anyone. It would be a rotating schedule for everyone (on opposite sides of the conf) so you wouldn't be traveling to the farthest reaches of the conference but maybe once every 4/5 years (for football). The rest of the sports puts the same burden on everyone.

I think you're completely missing what I said there. Some Texas State fans are constantly telling us to go back to the bus league every time NMSU is brought up.
Also, I didn't say anything about this bowl helping Texas State, I said it helps us and the Eastern members (App, GS, GSU). Every other bowl caters to the Gulf Coast teams. I agree that another bowl in Texas would be great.

(08-26-2015 09:28 PM)slycat Wrote:  

(08-26-2015 09:16 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Bring it on. The Belt needs a 5th bowl

Yes but need it on this side of the Mississippi

Yes, wouldn't another bowl in Houston be great? Think of the possibilities for the SB West. Texas State, NM State, Louisiana, ULM, Arkansas State. Then from the East South Alabama and Troy. Just saying.

You guys can cry all you want that it's two fans but it's pretty well known that your administration does not want NMSU because it's too far. That's why I bring up bus league App. It has nothing to do with fans cause we are powerless. Your admin...now that's different.

(08-27-2015 01:14 PM)ASUMountaineer Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:27 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:22 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:06 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 07:44 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  If this happens it will be an SBC bowl. Let the bus league western division crying begin.

And, let me be the first to welcome Coastal Carolina to the SBC.

Seriously? This crap is getting old, largest fan base of 7th grade girls in the nation.

You don't see the irony? Some western division fans of schools that are actually in a bus league calling fans in the east that want the same thing "bus league".

Again, welcome Coastal.

A few App State fans have developed a habit of complaining about the silliest things. Quit acting like App was promised something, you were not. Each school in the league has their own idea of what the league should look like. Also, speaking on behalf of a Western Division School...we get very few bus rides to begin with. We have to fly most places in the league. That's something App should have realized when they joined...

Coastal may get in, EKU may get in, NMSU may get in, No one may get in. We really don't know, and we won't know until the Presidents vote.

I'm pretty sure every App State administrator and fan, besides two posters here, did know that. Don't act like this is an entire fanbase thing. Seriously.

Notice I said A FEW

I was in no such way blaming your entire fan base. Just the couple complaining.

(08-27-2015 01:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Does the NCAA require new bowls fill a certified need anymore. If that's the case then it would seem likely that the Belt vs CUSA would be your likely matchup.

Rumor is it may already certified using the existing Little Cesar's Bowl certification which puts the MAC in play for this bowl. The new Detroit bowl was certified on its own as Little Cesar owner wanted to keep the LCPB and even explored other venues in Detroit before putting it on hold but kept the certification to be able to move it somewhere else in the future.

That may be why the press release doesn't mention "seeking" a bowl, they said its a done deal, just working on conference affiliation. The MAC is involved but may be willing to swap it with another conference's bowl lineup or put it as part of the ESPN pool of bowls.

Could be the Sun Belt gets the Potato Bowl vs MWC because of Idaho in the SBC and MAC moves to Charleston. SBC gets a 5th bowl in Idaho vs MWC and MAC comes closer to home. MAC vs CUSA/AAC/ACC backup bowl.

(08-27-2015 02:33 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  You guys can cry all you want that it's two fans but it's pretty well known that your administration does not want NMSU because it's too far. That's why I bring up bus league App. It has nothing to do with fans cause we are powerless. Your admin...now that's different.

Can you reference that somewhere? This is the first I'm reading of it.

(08-27-2015 02:38 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 01:14 PM)ASUMountaineer Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:27 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:22 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:06 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Seriously? This crap is getting old, largest fan base of 7th grade girls in the nation.

You don't see the irony? Some western division fans of schools that are actually in a bus league calling fans in the east that want the same thing "bus league".

Again, welcome Coastal.

A few App State fans have developed a habit of complaining about the silliest things. Quit acting like App was promised something, you were not. Each school in the league has their own idea of what the league should look like. Also, speaking on behalf of a Western Division School...we get very few bus rides to begin with. We have to fly most places in the league. That's something App should have realized when they joined...

Coastal may get in, EKU may get in, NMSU may get in, No one may get in. We really don't know, and we won't know until the Presidents vote.

I'm pretty sure every App State administrator and fan, besides two posters here, did know that. Don't act like this is an entire fanbase thing. Seriously.

Notice I said A FEW

I was in no such way blaming your entire fan base. Just the couple complaining.

Right, but the part I bolded seemed to imply the actual institution.

(08-27-2015 02:33 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  You guys can cry all you want that it's two fans but it's pretty well known that your administration does not want NMSU because it's too far. That's why I bring up bus league App. It has nothing to do with fans cause we are powerless. Your admin...now that's different.

Really? It's well known? Link?

It's such a ridiculous premise. App State invests millions of dollars to join a "non-bus league" only to complain that it's not a bus league. You bring up "bus league App" to troll. Our previous AD is now the AD at another SBC member, and our new AD came from Mizzou. Just stop.

This is a complete assumption on my part as I haven't held a position related to App Athletics since 2013, but I believe App would lobby GS and GA St. to vote against NMSU for all sports. I believe we'd rather stay at 11 and likely pay the pound of flesh (aka current basketball schedule) until a closer member was ready.

When we made the jump to FBS one of our top two priorities was to build regional rivalries and we'd like to do that in OOC scheduling, but also by adding one or two conference members close to NC, JMU was seen as a slam dunk as we knew WKU was out the door. I think the SBC leaders (looking at you Karl) thought the same at the time.

App has however had turnover at the Chancellor and AD positions since that time, although one sits at another school that may wish to lobby for CCU over NMSU.

App has been more up front than any program of what we'd like to add. You may see it as small time or a bus league, but we aren't waiting on ULL or Ark St. to decide how we should vote. If everyone was as transparent about their position we as fans wouldn't have to wait to know the next add (if any).

My gut says we add no one or CCU, but I'm not going to be surprised in NMSU is added in an 11-0 vote either. EKU would be surprising.

If we add no one I don't want to hear App fans complaining about the 2016-2017 basketball schedule though, you must lay in the bed you've made.

(08-27-2015 02:38 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 01:14 PM)ASUMountaineer Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 09:27 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:22 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote:  

(08-27-2015 08:06 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Seriously? This crap is getting old, largest fan base of 7th grade girls in the nation.

You don't see the irony? Some western division fans of schools that are actually in a bus league calling fans in the east that want the same thing "bus league".

Again, welcome Coastal.

A few App State fans have developed a habit of complaining about the silliest things. Quit acting like App was promised something, you were not. Each school in the league has their own idea of what the league should look like. Also, speaking on behalf of a Western Division School...we get very few bus rides to begin with. We have to fly most places in the league. That's something App should have realized when they joined...

Coastal may get in, EKU may get in, NMSU may get in, No one may get in. We really don't know, and we won't know until the Presidents vote.

I'm pretty sure every App State administrator and fan, besides two posters here, did know that. Don't act like this is an entire fanbase thing. Seriously.

Notice I said A FEW

I was in no such way blaming your entire fan base. Just the couple complaining.

FWIW, I never been told we were promised a travel partner. We were told and did expect a division format for the conference, and I'd say Benson and really the entire conference has been clear on that position since the beginning. I'm excited that after nearly 3 years, we are about to have it come to pass. One more week.

For what it is worth GS s AD has said we support Coastal Carolina. I have no doubt App and U.S. And probably Ga State and Troy are voting for Coastal. As for everyone else who knows. App and GS are big rivals but generally we are on the same page on pretty much any conference issue.