(07-08-2015 07:42 AM)CatMom Wrote:  AD Larry Teis

Again, I'm not sure there's anything in this article that most mid major schools don't have to deal with.

Facilities? check
Enrollment? check
budget? check

The copying of silly tweets is just that...silly. The Camellia Bowl chose South Alabama (2 hours from Montgomery) over Texas State (um...a lot farther). Obviously, the reason is attendance potential. If Louisiana, whose fan base is near the top of the league, was located in SM, South Alabama would have still gotten the invite.

The tailgating issue, the "I don't get to park close enough" and all the other fan excuses are things that other schools have had to deal with. Two things solve the problem. The first is "just win baby." The second is having a dynamic individual to sell the program. It doesn't have to be the AD. It could be someone in the department. It could be the head coach (as it was at UL with Mark Hudspeth.)

That doesn't all fall on the AD.

Again, this series is striking me as a fan who cares and yet can do nothing but point fingers. I'm sure the disgruntled fans will buy him a beer. But none of this is going to make Texas State better.

AD Larry Teis - Part 2

(07-08-2015 10:00 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 02:10 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  Almost every fan base in this country has issues with their AD. It is not the job of the AD to have solutions for every alleged issue that some writer has. The AD isn't a cheerleader who is supposed to make the fans feel better about being a fan of their school.

Alleged issues? Attendance isn't an issue? Poor gameday atmosphere isn't an issue? Season ticket sales (which is definitely different than attendance) isn't an issue? Proper marketing of the team isn't an issue?

If you don't think these are issues, but are just perceived issues by a select few (or even a bunch of people)... Then I guess we are just starting from two vastly different points of view.

The writer has a litany of issues that he is bringing up. He needs to pare it down a bit and focus on a few main issues. Most of it just sounds like whining, which is typical of every fanbase in college athletics.

Winning solves a lot. Attendance is down throughout college athletics. We get 2,000 fans for a typical basketball game. That reflects the product on the floor and fan apathy. We get 32,000 for the Navy game this year and 12,264 for the Arkansas State game. Both games were nationally televised. So why the difference? Is that on Teis?

The writer takes cheap shots at his salary. In the 2013 USA Today salary survey of FBS Athletic Directors, Teis was ranked at #95 making a base salary of $225,000. The recent increases have got him close to $275,000, but he is not being overpaid.

Does it really make sense to write eight articles on Larry Teis?

(07-08-2015 03:18 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  Winning solves a lot. Attendance is down throughout college athletics. We get 2,000 fans for a typical basketball game. That reflects the product on the floor and fan apathy. We get 32,000 for the Navy game this year and 12,264 for the Arkansas State game. Both games were nationally televised. So why the difference? Is that on Teis?

Yes, I would say the huge difference is on Teis. There was a huge amount of marketing and push to get attendance up for the Navy game. Not much (if at all) for the stAte game.

Now, I wouldn't expect 32k in attendance for a weekday evening game. But I ABSOLUTELY expect a stronger marketing campaign, particularly when he knew bowl officials would be at the game.

(07-08-2015 03:18 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  The writer takes cheap shots at his salary. In the 2013 USA Today salary survey of FBS Athletic Directors, Teis was ranked at #95 making a base salary of $225,000. The recent increases have got him close to $275,000, but he is not being overpaid.

Does it really make sense to write eight articles on Larry Teis?

It's not 8 articles on Teis, it's on the Athletic Department. And I would say yes... it does make sense. There's far more to it than just Teis, it's the overall athletic department.

And given the way Teis is in front of the camera, the way he dismisses every fan not named Fields, and poor planning (where was the push during the bowl period to get us in a bowl?)... I'd say right now he is overpaid for the results. I don't see that as a good ROI on the pay.

(07-08-2015 03:32 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 03:18 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  Winning solves a lot. Attendance is down throughout college athletics. We get 2,000 fans for a typical basketball game. That reflects the product on the floor and fan apathy. We get 32,000 for the Navy game this year and 12,264 for the Arkansas State game. Both games were nationally televised. So why the difference? Is that on Teis?

Yes, I would say the huge difference is on Teis. There was a huge amount of marketing and push to get attendance up for the Navy game. Not much (if at all) for the stAte game.

Now, I wouldn't expect 32k in attendance for a weekday evening game. But I ABSOLUTELY expect a stronger marketing campaign, particularly when he knew bowl officials would be at the game.

(07-08-2015 03:18 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  The writer takes cheap shots at his salary. In the 2013 USA Today salary survey of FBS Athletic Directors, Teis was ranked at #95 making a base salary of $225,000. The recent increases have got him close to $275,000, but he is not being overpaid.

Does it really make sense to write eight articles on Larry Teis?

It's not 8 articles on Teis, it's on the Athletic Department. And I would say yes... it does make sense. There's far more to it than just Teis, it's the overall athletic department.

And given the way Teis is in front of the camera, the way he dismisses every fan not named Fields, and poor planning (where was the push during the bowl period to get us in a bowl?)... I'd say right now he is overpaid for the results. I don't see that as a good ROI on the pay.

LOL! Nice try, Rev. I am not a big fan of Larry Teis, but it doesn't make sense to think that his staff did a great job of marketing for the Navy game and then took the week of the Arkansas State game off? This was on the Texas State students and Texas State fans. They did not make the effort to show up.

My bad, it is not really eight articles on Larry Teis...it is eight articles on Larry Teis and his athletic department. I don't see how Teis can be blamed for the bowl bids going to South Alabama and Arkansas State. Usually an AD gets a bonus if his school gets to a bowl game. I am sure he was fighting for a bowl bid because he would want his bonus.

I don't want to go back-and-forth with you on this. We both want Texas State to win. I will just agree to disagree with you on the value of these articles.

Conversations With Alumni and Students

(07-08-2015 11:07 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  LOL! Nice try, Rev. I am not a big fan of Larry Teis, but it doesn't make sense to think that his staff did a great job of marketing for the Navy game and then took the week of the Arkansas State game off? This was on the Texas State students and Texas State fans. They did not make the effort to show up.

No, it doesn't make sense that they would take the week off, but look at the marketing and tell me where it was. If there was some other factor (I don't know, maybe it was sweeps week and we couldn't afford marketing?), then that needs to be known because there was a CLEAR difference in the level of marketing from Navy to the stAte game. That is indisputable.

(07-08-2015 11:07 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  My bad, it is not really eight articles on Larry Teis...it is eight articles on Larry Teis and his athletic department. I don't see how Teis can be blamed for the bowl bids going to South Alabama and Arkansas State. Usually an AD gets a bonus if his school gets to a bowl game. I am sure he was fighting for a bowl bid because he would want his bonus.

To be clear, I don't blame Teis for not getting us a bowl. But I do blame him for not making a clear push in the media and trying to rally the fans. I hope you see the difference I'm making. Sometimes, it's not about winning the fight, it's about showing you are willing to fight for the team (at least it is to me).

Establishing An Identity

".... Take their damn lunch money."

Hell yeah! Best line in the whole article . . . .

(07-10-2015 09:19 AM)CatMom Wrote:  Establishing An Identity

Can't say I agree with all of his ideas.

But he came up with some. Props to him for that.

(07-08-2015 03:18 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 10:00 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(07-08-2015 02:10 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  Almost every fan base in this country has issues with their AD. It is not the job of the AD to have solutions for every alleged issue that some writer has. The AD isn't a cheerleader who is supposed to make the fans feel better about being a fan of their school.

Alleged issues? Attendance isn't an issue? Poor gameday atmosphere isn't an issue? Season ticket sales (which is definitely different than attendance) isn't an issue? Proper marketing of the team isn't an issue?

If you don't think these are issues, but are just perceived issues by a select few (or even a bunch of people)... Then I guess we are just starting from two vastly different points of view.

The writer has a litany of issues that he is bringing up. He needs to pare it down a bit and focus on a few main issues. Most of it just sounds like whining, which is typical of every fanbase in college athletics.

Winning solves a lot. Attendance is down throughout college athletics. We get 2,000 fans for a typical basketball game. That reflects the product on the floor and fan apathy. We get 32,000 for the Navy game this year and 12,264 for the Arkansas State game. Both games were nationally televised. So why the difference? Is that on Teis?

The writer takes cheap shots at his salary. In the 2013 USA Today salary survey of FBS Athletic Directors, Teis was ranked at #95 making a base salary of $225,000. The recent increases have got him close to $275,000, but he is not being overpaid.

Does it really make sense to write eight articles on Larry Teis?

I'm not sure that attendance is down anywhere but at the low levels. many schools are busy right now adding seats and more private boxes..

(07-10-2015 09:35 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  ".... Take their damn lunch money."

Hell yeah! Best line in the whole article . . . .

Every game TXST plays this year we are going to be like............