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(06-03-2015 09:21 AM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  

(06-03-2015 08:35 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  Right bham. The players left on campus are guys nobody wanted.(no offense to any of these guys).

It is all going to depend on what the NCAA does here. Let's say we have 10 guys on campus and another 5 who want to come back. If these guys don't count against our numbers, we need to add 70 players. If we are allowed to recruit in 2015 and 2016, and they allow us 5 extra scholarships each time, that leaves us with ten scholarships. I understand that's not ideal, but it's close to the limit at that point. If we load up on jucos and transfers, we could be okay. The problem is we would be really old, and need to balance the classes quickly. It's not impossible to field a competitive team in 2016. Hell, look what Clark was able to do last year. If the NCAA throws us a few waivers, I think this could be a really quick rebuild.

Found this:

2014 UAB Football Roster 2015 Team
NAME POS CLASS HOMETOWN New Team
Bobby Baker S JR Sherman Oaks, CA Georgia State University
Jamarcus Nelson WR SR Midfield, AL Graduated
Jamari Staples WR SO Lineville, AL Louisville
Ty Long PK SR Roswell, GA Graduated
Lamarcus Farmer CB JR Pensacola, FL Troy
Maudrecus Humphrey WR SR Hoover, AL Graduated
J.J. Green WR SO Florence, AL
Jake Ganus LB JR Chelsea, AL Georgia
Stevie Farmer QB FR Athens, AL
Cody Clements QB JR Whittier, CA South Alabama
Kalen Jackson LB JR Magee, MS South Alabama
Austin Chipoletti QB SO Jacksonville, FL No longer with South Alabama
D.J. Vinson RB SR Clay, AL South Alabama
Nick Jackson S SO Birmingham, AL
Harris Gaston LB SR Birmingham, AL Graduated
Jimmy Jean CB SR Pompano Beach, FL Graduated
Jordan Howard RB SO/1L Gardendale, AL Indiana
Jay Davis S SR Lilburn, GA Graduated
Nyiakki Height WR JR Marietta, GA Georgia State University
Josh Magee WR SO Hoover, AL South Alabama
T.J. McCollum S FR Birmingham, AL Western Kentucky University
Myles McKee QB SR Asheville, NC Graduated
Nate Weston S JR Hampton, GA
Calvin Jones S SR Petal, MS Graduated
Quincy Perdue WR FR Marietta, GA
Greg Maclin S SO Tanner, AL Western Kentucky University
Nolen Smith TE SR Oneonta, AL Graduated
Darius Powell WR JR Foley, AL Delta State
Demarco Davis CB FR Atlanta, GA Georgia State University
Evan Orth QB FR Neptune Beach, FL South Alabama
Gerald Everett TE JR Hutchinson, KS South Alabama
Kingsley Ejike LB FR Covington, GA Kennesaw State University
Ervin Alston LB SO Jacksonville, FL
Jeremiah Briscoe QB FR Houston, TX Sam Houston State
Jordan Petty CB SO Florence, AL Quit Football
Kyle Sappington TE SO Tuscaloosa, AL South Alabama (Walk-On)
Rodney Morris TE FR Alpharetta, GA Tennessee State
Trey Grissett LB SR Warner Robins, GA Graduated
Devon Brown CB SO Hoover, AL Old Dominion
Nick Vogel PK FR Jacksonville, FL Southern Miss
David Norris LB FR Madison, AL Richmond
Dequindre Adams WR JR Columbus, GA
Kelton Brackett CB JR Mobile, AL University of Massachusetts
Kenton Petties WR FR Dora, AL
Desman Carter S JR Pomona, CA Montana St.
Khaled Berklin WR FR Phenix City, AL
Tevin Crews LB JR Brent, AL
Julian Little RB FR Linden, AL
Tajh Lowe S FR Tulsa, OK
Collin Lisa WR FR Alpharetta, GA Buffalo
Destin Challenger LB JR Hoover, AL
Demarcus Kirk RB FR Dora, AL Georgia State University
Rolan Milligan CB JR Lake City, FL Toledo
Dee Tolbert WR FR Alabaster, AL
Jalen Coleman LB FR Daphne, AL
Ja'Won Arrington RB JR Birmingham, AL North Dakota
Marcus Reaves RB SO Birmingham, AL
Jamal Hundley WR JR Trussville, AL Arkansas-Pine Bluff
Tamar Mickens RB SR Birmingham, AL Graduated
Brandon Fuller LB FR Birmingham, AL
Jordan Ricks LB SO Birmingham, AL
Derek Slaughter LB JR Pelham, AL
Scottie Peace S SO Nashville, TN Arkansas-Pine Bluff
Hunter Mullins P SR Tallassee, AL Graduated
James Banks LB SO Junction City, OR
Kyle Lestrange FB FR Alpharetta, GA
Shalin Waterford LB JR Harvest, AL
Alonzo McGee LB JR Sumter, SC Georgia State University
Colin Anderson PK JR Stone Mountain, GA
John Robinson LB FR Birmingham, AL South Alabama (Walk-On)
Darius Williams CB SO Jacksonville, FL
Shaq Jones LB JR Lanett, AL
Robert Mondie DL JR Memphis, TN Arkansas State
Mark Rawls LB FR Homewood, AL
Diaheem Watkins DL SR Brent, AL Graduated
Joseph Roberts LB FR Trussville, AL Jacksonville State
Chris Rabb DE JR Hueytown, AL
Daron Wright DE JR Atlanta, GA
Daniel Anousheh OL JR Lancaster, CA Coastal Carolina
Shaquille Roberson DL JR Camp Hill, AL
Zach Sims OL FR Homewood, AL North Alabama ***
Ryan Krum OL JR El Cajon, CA San Diego State
Jontavious Morris DT JR Albany, GA Western Kentucky University
Roscoe Byrd OL JR Albany, GA Georgia Southern
Dallas Noriega LS SR Scottsdale, AZ Graduated
Wes Drewery LS FR Franklin, TN Murray State
Hunter Kennedy OL FR Troy, AL University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
Vincent Hunter OL FR Memphis, TN Jackson State
Chris Hudson OL FR Ocala, FL Bethune Cookman
Steve Pickren OL SO Pell City, AL University of Tennessee at Chattanooga
Hayden Naumann OL JR Decatur, AL Samford
Cameron Blankenship OL JR Alexander City, AL South Alabama
Lee Dufour OL FR Saraland, AL South Alabama
Bryant Novick OL FR Hoover, AL
Kelepi Falou OL JR Concord, CA Georgia State University
Brian O'Leary OL SR Venice, FL Graduated
Victor Salako OL SO Huntsville, AL Oklahoma State University
Marqui Hawkins WR FR Columbus, GA Indiana
Perry Able LS FR Columbia, SC
Kennard Backman TE SR Austell, GA Graduated
Tristan Henderson TE SR Los Alamitos, CA Graduated
Rodarius Houston WR SO Anniston, AL
Chris Walton DL SR Atlanta, GA Graduated
Parrish Huddleston DL JR Fulton, MS UT-Martin
Cam Willis DL SO Birmingham, AL Arkansas-Pine Bluff
Josh Smith DL JR Birmingham, AL Arkansas-Pine Bluff
Uneik Crumbley OL JR Americus, GA Albany State University

I think this is pretty accurate.

We're going to take our lumps in 2016, no two ways about it. I think that it is important to get back at it in C-USA as fast as possible though. I think FCS is a loser.

(06-03-2015 08:55 AM)tibber Wrote:  It seems like someone mentioned on here that it would be largely up to the NCAA as to whether or not we play in 2016. I don't know to what extent exactly. What kind of say would they or the conference have in the process?

This situation is unprecedented, and I don't think there are stipulations in the rules that exactly address what's going on. If this had been a NCAA-imposed death penalty then the process would have been laid out in the ruling imposing it. Issues the NCAA has to figure out is, does UAB immediately come back to FBS or does this count as completely eliminating and starting again, and therefore having to play up through FCS and the normal transition process? Also, does UAB get penalized or put on probation for not sponsoring the required number of Division I sports in 2015-2016?

C*USA's role is likely to be as a lobbyist on behalf of UAB at the NCAA, since they've already made it clear they're willing to do what it takes to help UAB at the conference level.

(06-03-2015 07:08 AM)blzr4life Wrote:  Does anyone know if that is his goal. We have 31 players still on campus, can use the 2015 scholarships to sign JUCO's in Dec, 2015 and then sign 2016 class in February. We will be young, have only @ 80 players but i think if anyone can make it work it is Coach Clark.

Gettr Done Coach!

2016 or BUST!!

Of the 31 still on campus, I would wager 80% will complete their education by 2016.

Those that haven't taken a redshirt yet could do it for 2015, right? Do you have to have a team playing games in order to count as a redshirt?

(06-03-2015 11:54 AM)thebernreuter Wrote:  Those that haven't taken a redshirt yet could do it for 2015, right? Do you have to have a team playing games in order to count as a redshirt?

That's correct. Charlotte signed a recruiting class a year before fielding a team and redshirted all of them. The team (as it is) would be allowed to practice all fall even with no scheduled games while maintaining the redshirt status of those players.

(06-03-2015 10:20 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(06-03-2015 08:55 AM)tibber Wrote:  It seems like someone mentioned on here that it would be largely up to the NCAA as to whether or not we play in 2016. I don't know to what extent exactly. What kind of say would they or the conference have in the process?

This situation is unprecedented, and I don't think there are stipulations in the rules that exactly address what's going on. If this had been a NCAA-imposed death penalty then the process would have been laid out in the ruling imposing it. Issues the NCAA has to figure out is, does UAB immediately come back to FBS or does this count as completely eliminating and starting again, and therefore having to play up through FCS and the normal transition process? Also, does UAB get penalized or put on probation for not sponsoring the required number of Division I sports in 2015-2016?

C*USA's role is likely to be as a lobbyist on behalf of UAB at the NCAA, since they've already made it clear they're willing to do what it takes to help UAB at the conference level.

Is men's track canceled? Or will it last one year and then be canceled?

(06-03-2015 12:26 PM)HSV_BLAZER Wrote:  

(06-03-2015 10:20 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(06-03-2015 08:55 AM)tibber Wrote:  It seems like someone mentioned on here that it would be largely up to the NCAA as to whether or not we play in 2016. I don't know to what extent exactly. What kind of say would they or the conference have in the process?

This situation is unprecedented, and I don't think there are stipulations in the rules that exactly address what's going on. If this had been a NCAA-imposed death penalty then the process would have been laid out in the ruling imposing it. Issues the NCAA has to figure out is, does UAB immediately come back to FBS or does this count as completely eliminating and starting again, and therefore having to play up through FCS and the normal transition process? Also, does UAB get penalized or put on probation for not sponsoring the required number of Division I sports in 2015-2016?

C*USA's role is likely to be as a lobbyist on behalf of UAB at the NCAA, since they've already made it clear they're willing to do what it takes to help UAB at the conference level.

Is men's track canceled? Or will it last one year and then be canceled?

Did it even get started? I'm of the understanding that the reinstatement of football, bowling, and rifle essentially negates the other changes. If men's track actually happens, then another women's sport will have to be added because there will be a Title IX imbalance.

As far as scheduling goes my thoughts are that we'd probably be probationary in that we'd not be eligible for a conference champ or bowl even if we won them on the field due to playing so many FCS teams. With so many FBS teams already having filled their 2016 schedules our OOC games will be filled w/ FCS teams but we'd probably play our normal conference schedule. We'd just be short numbers & quality depth like we were in Callaway's first year & take some lumps.

Heck, I'm probably alone in thinking that Coach Clark needs to find us four or five Division III opponents for 2015. Just to keep the jitters down.

(06-03-2015 02:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  Heck, I'm probably alone in thinking that Coach Clark needs to find us four or five Division III opponents for 2015. Just to keep the jitters down.

I strongly doubt we will have the resources and organization in place.

Schedule a cupcake to start 2016 at home. The rest of 2016 do what we can to get in C*USA's good graces as far as scheduling, but since we are not competing for a bowl I'd suggest taking 3 or 4 body bag games just for the money and the exposure. "What is the Tide Afraid of?" could be a funny homecoming theme for our opponents.

(06-03-2015 02:29 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  

(06-03-2015 02:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  Heck, I'm probably alone in thinking that Coach Clark needs to find us four or five Division III opponents for 2015. Just to keep the jitters down.

I strongly doubt we will have the resources and organization in place.

Schedule a cupcake to start 2016 at home. The rest of 2016 do what we can to get in C*USA's good graces as far as scheduling, but since we are not competing for a bowl I'd suggest taking 3 or 4 body bag games just for the money and the exposure. "What is the Tide Afraid of?" could be a funny homecoming theme for our opponents.

schedule a cupcake? There are no 'cupcakes' when you are starting a football program from scratch

I wish people would stop saying UAB is building a program from scratch. Yeah, we had a one year death penalty but there is a ton of infrastructure in place already. South Alabama started from scratch. BSC started from scratch. We're ahead of the game in a number of ways.

(06-03-2015 02:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  Heck, I'm probably alone in thinking that Coach Clark needs to find us four or five Division III opponents for 2015. Just to keep the jitters down.

Would kill a year of eligibility for players...

(06-03-2015 03:19 PM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  

(06-03-2015 02:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  Heck, I'm probably alone in thinking that Coach Clark needs to find us four or five Division III opponents for 2015. Just to keep the jitters down.

Would kill a year of eligibility for players...

NCAA has told the AP that players on scholarship at UAB for 2015 will be losing a year of eligibility anyway, unless they apply for waivers, regardless if UAB plays a game in 2015.

(06-03-2015 03:39 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(06-03-2015 03:19 PM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  

(06-03-2015 02:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  Heck, I'm probably alone in thinking that Coach Clark needs to find us four or five Division III opponents for 2015. Just to keep the jitters down.

Would kill a year of eligibility for players...

NCAA has told the AP that players on scholarship at UAB for 2015 will be losing a year of eligibility anyway, unless they apply for waivers, regardless if UAB plays a game in 2015.

I think most waivers would be granted. They just want the players to go through the process. Besides if a player has a redshirt year left playing in 2015 would exhaust it...

(06-03-2015 03:03 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  I wish people would stop saying UAB is building a program from scratch. Yeah, we had a one year death penalty but there is a ton of infrastructure in place already. South Alabama started from scratch. BSC started from scratch. We're ahead of the game in a number of ways.

I am sure FBHC Clark is thinking 2016, but his thinking may be affected by delays in facility improvements. If nothing gets actually added in 2015 or 2016, he may not want to start so early. Of course, if additional facility improvements are blocked by BOT or local administrators (Watts?) as was reported before the shutdown, he may not want to stay at UAB at all.

He would probably recruit just like he did before - heavy on JUCOs (9 were from Cal. and 4 from MS for 2014) and then fill in with high school players in Feb. who he thinks promising. Since he will have to await NCAA rulings on waivers for those who never left or returned, those numbers will be determined later. Since UAB is like a phoenix / dragon arising from its ashes, the pressure to win right away will be minimal.

Has anyone heard how our 3 QBs performed at USA this spring? Two were freshmen so might want to return if 2016 is our goal.

(06-03-2015 09:06 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-03-2015 03:03 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  I wish people would stop saying UAB is building a program from scratch. Yeah, we had a one year death penalty but there is a ton of infrastructure in place already. South Alabama started from scratch. BSC started from scratch. We're ahead of the game in a number of ways.

I am sure FBHC Clark is thinking 2016, but his thinking may be affected by delays in facility improvements. If nothing gets actually added in 2015 or 2016, he may not want to start so early. Of course, if additional facility improvements are blocked by BOT or local administrators (Watts?) as was reported before the shutdown, he may not want to stay at UAB at all.

He would probably recruit just like he did before - heavy on JUCOs (9 were from Cal. and 4 from MS for 2014) and then fill in with high school players in Feb. who he thinks promising. Since he will have to await NCAA rulings on waivers for those who never left or returned, those numbers will be determined later. Since UAB is like a phoenix / dragon arising from its ashes, the pressure to win right away will be minimal.

Has anyone heard how our 3 QBs performed at USA this spring? Two were freshmen so might want to return if 2016 is our goal.

Chipoletti is no longer on the team. Not sure he'd want to sit out another year, though(he sat out last year).

Chipoletti was touted by some as the likely starter for UAB in 2015 - even over Clements. What about Orth (sp?) who was a frosh?

He did. I do know Coach Clark absolutely LOVED the kid too.