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(05-29-2015 02:08 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 01:55 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  Our favorite sharply dressed star wars character chimes in:
B12 flip-flopped on having conf title game with 10 teams because 4 will be added for 2016: UCF, Cinci, UConn, BYU (fball only)

Claims it's a "VERY inside source"... maybe his ass?

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(05-29-2015 02:08 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 01:55 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  Our favorite sharply dressed star wars character chimes in:
B12 flip-flopped on having conf title game with 10 teams because 4 will be added for 2016: UCF, Cinci, UConn, BYU (fball only)

Claims it's a "VERY inside source"... maybe his ass?

Let me know when Yoda has ever been right on anything? 04-cheers

At least this time, he'll be wrong on a timely manner, claims announcement will be next month.
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(05-29-2015 02:39 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  At least this time, he'll be wrong on a timely manner, claims announcement will be next month.
Each month we have someone saying the word is something will happen next month.

This has to be one of the longest months on record. 07-coffee3
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(05-29-2015 02:47 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 02:39 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  At least this time, he'll be wrong on a timely manner, claims announcement will be next month.
Each month we have someone saying the word is something will happen next month.

This has to be one of the longest months on record. 07-coffee3

And on the seventh day, he rested.
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03-lmfao
(05-29-2015 02:50 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 02:47 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 02:39 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  At least this time, he'll be wrong on a timely manner, claims announcement will be next month.
Each month we have someone saying the word is something will happen next month.

This has to be one of the longest months on record. 07-coffee3

And on the seventh day, he rested.

03-lmfao 03-lmfao
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(05-29-2015 02:08 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 01:55 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  Our favorite sharply dressed star wars character chimes in:
B12 flip-flopped on having conf title game with 10 teams because 4 will be added for 2016: UCF, Cinci, UConn, BYU (fball only)

Claims it's a "VERY inside source"... maybe his ass?

Let me know when Yoda has ever been right on anything? 04-cheers
Recognize the danger in training young Skywalker, he did. 04-cheers
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(05-29-2015 02:25 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 02:08 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 01:55 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  Our favorite sharply dressed star wars character chimes in:
B12 flip-flopped on having conf title game with 10 teams because 4 will be added for 2016: UCF, Cinci, UConn, BYU (fball only)

Claims it's a "VERY inside source"... maybe his ass?

Let me know when Yoda has ever been right on anything? 04-cheers

He spelled Yoda correctly.

Was supposed to be Sam.
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(05-29-2015 03:30 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 02:25 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 02:08 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 01:55 PM)SublimeKnight Wrote:  Our favorite sharply dressed star wars character chimes in:
B12 flip-flopped on having conf title game with 10 teams because 4 will be added for 2016: UCF, Cinci, UConn, BYU (fball only)

Claims it's a "VERY inside source"... maybe his ass?

Let me know when Yoda has ever been right on anything? 04-cheers

He spelled Yoda correctly.

Was supposed to be Sam.

so that means ConnU Florida University Central and YBU?
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UConn is the prettiest girl left on the dance floor.
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(05-29-2015 09:25 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  http://www.wvillustrated.com/story/29180...-12-issues

Quote:A topic of conversation that seems to exist in every conference meeting is that of expansion, something that the Big 12 would currently need to consider if the decision to add a title game were to be made without a change in legislation.

Lyons has been a part of those discussions and believes that if the right fit is there, it should be considered, but addition for the sake of addition would not benefit the league.

“There's a presidential committee that's kind of looking at that as well, but as athletic directors, we try to look at the bigger picture of what actual teams and partners we could bring in that would add value to the conference and that's still being explored,” Lyons said.

“I'm in favor of expansion if it's the right two teams to bring in,” he continued. “Obviously for us, it would be nice to have more of an eastern partner, but at the same time, I want to make sure it's the right partner and from a revenue standpoint it doesn't impact us negatively as well by bringing additional partners in.”

I wonder if Bowlsby will give him a talking to for stepping out of rank on the company line, but it seems the XII isn't as quiet on the expansion front as they have made themselves out to be.

Not that I believe him one bit, but one of the usual expansionistas got on this to tout that he says that FSU and Clemson are the targets, if the ACCN doesn't happen by 2017. I won't give him any credence by linking him, though.


ACC has the GoRs in place and a steep heavy fee if a school leaves. And if any schools do leave? I think the Big 1o will swoop in to take Virginia, North Carolina, Clemson. Georgia Tech, FSU and one other. Big 10 might take either Stony Brook or Buffalo to complete the corridor from Florida to New York. If they do take FSU? That means they think FSU is a peer to the the AAU schools. That means schools like U. Mass., U. Conn., North Dakota State, Montana and Colorado State are peers as well.
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(05-29-2015 11:38 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
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(05-29-2015 09:34 AM)lew240z Wrote:  I'd bet that all conferences have such a committee or at least discuss expansion and targets at conference meetings. It is in each conference's best interest to constantly evaluate how expansion would impact the conference, and which schools would be the best additions and, if they are available and at what price.

That's right.

Almost every college AD has a list of head coaches he'd want to go after if his current coach suddenly departed. The fact that Alabama's AD has a list doesn't mean that Saban is leaving tomorrow or next year or anytime in the next 10 years, it just means he wants to be ready in case something unexpected happens. The list is only relevant if Saban does leave unexpectedly.

But, if we did see that hypothetical list of Alabama candidates, we'd talk about it endlessly here, even though the chances are very low that Saban would leave anytime soon. And the same is true about a hypothetical list of Big 12 candidates.

Yeah, it's called "planning." Had a full-time faculty member die unexpectedly two years ago. How it was handled became a running joke of sorts in the office. "That's too bad" was immediately followed by "who covers their classes," and then calling replacements and subs. Telling their colleagues one of their own passed was the preface for the real reason the calls were made: covering the classes.

This isn't some secret cabal. There are probably twenty-one people who only really matter that can discuss things in the Big XII: Bowlsby, the ten presidents, and their ADs, and really, it's only ten who get to really decide the big things with a commissioner being a mouthpiece. Ten people discussing any number of items, and these are the presidents of universities? Follow the rabbit hole of how time is budgeted, where athletics factor into that, and where conference expansion is thereafter, and I'm going to bet that while the committee exists, what it really does on the topic, it isn't much. I'd wager "the work" is mostly an email thread with a ton of replies and forwards. Some big secret, if true, you know?


Maybe they should have somebody that represents the best interests of the fans, and who they would like to see in the conference? Many that I have seen posted all over the internet picked the schools in the G5 conference as logical targets for expansions. They know it will be hard to take schools out of the other P5 conferences. Most schools that I have seen that fans been talking about for expansion are?

Memphis
Houston
SMU
La.-Monroe
Boise State
Eastern Washington
North Dakota State
East Carolina
Colorado State
Air Force
Fresno State
Hawaii
San Diego State
Navy
Northern Illinois
Ohio U.
Toledo
Georgia Southern
UCF
USF
La.-Lafayette
Arkansas State
Missouri State
Wichita State
VCU

There are many fans been saying no to the likes of U. Conn., Tulane, Rice and some others. Just my observation.
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(05-29-2015 05:24 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 11:38 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 11:08 AM)Wedge Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 09:34 AM)lew240z Wrote:  I'd bet that all conferences have such a committee or at least discuss expansion and targets at conference meetings. It is in each conference's best interest to constantly evaluate how expansion would impact the conference, and which schools would be the best additions and, if they are available and at what price.

That's right.

Almost every college AD has a list of head coaches he'd want to go after if his current coach suddenly departed. The fact that Alabama's AD has a list doesn't mean that Saban is leaving tomorrow or next year or anytime in the next 10 years, it just means he wants to be ready in case something unexpected happens. The list is only relevant if Saban does leave unexpectedly.

But, if we did see that hypothetical list of Alabama candidates, we'd talk about it endlessly here, even though the chances are very low that Saban would leave anytime soon. And the same is true about a hypothetical list of Big 12 candidates.

Yeah, it's called "planning." Had a full-time faculty member die unexpectedly two years ago. How it was handled became a running joke of sorts in the office. "That's too bad" was immediately followed by "who covers their classes," and then calling replacements and subs. Telling their colleagues one of their own passed was the preface for the real reason the calls were made: covering the classes.

This isn't some secret cabal. There are probably twenty-one people who only really matter that can discuss things in the Big XII: Bowlsby, the ten presidents, and their ADs, and really, it's only ten who get to really decide the big things with a commissioner being a mouthpiece. Ten people discussing any number of items, and these are the presidents of universities? Follow the rabbit hole of how time is budgeted, where athletics factor into that, and where conference expansion is thereafter, and I'm going to bet that while the committee exists, what it really does on the topic, it isn't much. I'd wager "the work" is mostly an email thread with a ton of replies and forwards. Some big secret, if true, you know?


Maybe they should have somebody that represents the best interests of the fans, and who they would like to see in the conference? Many that I have seen posted all over the internet picked the schools in the G5 conference as logical targets for expansions. They know it will be hard to take schools out of the other P5 conferences. Most schools that I have seen that fans been talking about for expansion are?

Memphis
Houston
SMU
La.-Monroe
Boise State
Eastern Washington
North Dakota State
East Carolina
Colorado State
Air Force
Fresno State
Hawaii
San Diego State
Navy
Northern Illinois
Ohio U.
Toledo
Georgia Southern
UCF
USF
La.-Lafayette
Arkansas State
Missouri State
Wichita State
VCU

There are many fans been saying no to the likes of U. Conn., Tulane, Rice and some others. Just my observation.

Louisiana-Monroe and Toledo over UConn, Tulane, and Rice.

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(05-29-2015 04:50 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  UConn is the prettiest girl left on the dance floor.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, friend...07-coffee3
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I hope that Cincy gets an invite.

If BYU and the Big XII could come to terms, I cold see that happening with UC. Otherwise, I can see UC + UCF/Memphis/Houston/USF, with Memphis and UCF being the clear front runners (more so UCF than Memphis)
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(05-29-2015 04:50 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  UConn is the prettiest girl left on the dance floor.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, friend...07-coffee3
It simply means there are slim pickings.
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I'd be fine with Uconn and UC if the $s add up.

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(05-29-2015 09:25 AM)CommuterBob Wrote:  I wonder if Bowlsby will give him a talking to for stepping out of rank on the company line, but it seems the XII isn't as quiet on the expansion front as they have made themselves out to be.

Not that I believe him one bit, but one of the usual expansionistas got on this to tout that he says that FSU and Clemson are the targets, if the ACCN doesn't happen by 2017. I won't give him any credence by linking him, though.

You don't have to like him, just give the dude his sourcing when you're starting threads with his opinions in them.
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My inside source has said Fresno State/SDSU.
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(05-29-2015 06:36 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 04:50 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  UConn is the prettiest girl left on the dance floor.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, friend...07-coffee3

^^^Exhibit A in my not giving the haters any more ammo. Sadly UCONN-SMU didn't get that memo.
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(05-29-2015 04:50 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  UConn is the prettiest girl left on the dance floor.

Not in football if that sport is important, frankly even after 6 drinks she's still fugly. Please don't get me wrong, I love the Huskies, and am proud UCF shares a conference with them.
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