press release

http://jmusports.com/news/2015/4/6/MBB_0406151307.aspx



Nick Sunderland ‏@NSunderland4 2m2 minutes ago
Quote from Matt Brady: "Hari Hall has made the very personal decision to begin working full-time to help financially support his family."



this would be the only one I'd wonder about from earlier today...
Nick Sunderland ‏@NSunderland4
Hari Hall may not be done playing basketball yet. His father, Hari Hari Sr., says his son has multiple offers from other Division I schools.

lol i wonder if the "professional opportunity" is a way to avoid APR issues

UVA only had like 2 players from Tony Bennett's first full class of 6 make it through, Joe Harris and Akil Mitchell. They already lost BJ Stith from this year's team to ODU, the son of only like their 2nd greatest player of all-time, Bryant Stith. They have had numerous other players leave since TB has been there, at least 1-2 a year.

Maryland had like 5 players transfer last season.

When you think about it, you have 13 eligible scholarships each year. Most college rotations are maybe 8-9 deep. You think those 4-5 scholarship athletes like sitting at the end of the bench? No. Once the season is over they are going to evaluate what they have to do to get playing time. Maybe 2 of them just had to wait out an experienced player graduating and will stay, maybe 2 of them realized they were never going to play, and decided to transfer.

Coaches and most people have known Hari was leaving. Not really a big on court for next year. Brady handled hall situation pretty well. 70% sure a transfer is coming to Jmu.

Players that leave or transfer are usually riding the bench and want more playing time. It's usually not the best players / starters. Note I'm stating usually. He may not be to blame for Hall but it's just a pattern of the majority of his top talent not staying around, whatever the reasons. A coach is responsible for not only evaluating a player's talent but their mindset, emotional state, ability to commit, work ethic, ability to fit in the system, ability to play nice with others, etc.

Doesn't matter what the reasons are, it's obvious we can't consistently field a team that's stable and committed to JMU, and that responsibility resides squarely with the head coach. I don't care if other schools tolerate losing almost half their players, doesn't mean we have to. William & Mary has lost ZERO players from their current team and we've now lost 10 and probably an 11th. How do you build a team and continuity with that? I can't believe there are some who think we just can't do better, and have conceded dominance to the likes of ODU, Mason, VCU... and soon to Liberty, Radford, Bridgewater Community College, Eastern Mennonite, and Rockingham County Poultry School of the Gifted.

He may be great at certain aspects of coaching and I'm sure he really is a nice guy. But how long do we (and by "we" I mean "you") make excuses? I wish I felt comfortable that he could turn things around given enough time but this is death by a thousand pricks. We need some passion and fire up in this here mother f***er and I don't see Matt bringing that if he hasn't already. If we're stuck in the CAA for the next year or for life, the least we can do is own it.

(04-06-2015 04:43 PM)2Buck Wrote:  Players that leave or transfer are usually riding the bench and want more playing time. It's usually not the best players / starters. Note I'm stating usually. He may not be to blame for Hall but it's just a pattern of the majority of his top talent not staying around, whatever the reasons. A coach is responsible for not only evaluating a player's talent but their mindset, emotional state, ability to commit, work ethic, ability to fit in the system, ability to play nice with others, etc.

Doesn't matter what the reasons are, it's obvious we can't consistently field a team that's stable and committed to JMU, and that responsibility resides squarely with the head coach. I don't care if other schools tolerate losing almost half their players, doesn't mean we have to. William & Mary has lost ZERO players from their current team and we've now lost 10 and probably an 11th. How do you build a team and continuity with that? I can't believe there are some who think we just can't do better, and have conceded dominance to the likes of ODU, Mason, VCU... and soon to Liberty, Radford, Bridgewater Community College, Eastern Mennonite, and Rockingham County Poultry School of the Gifted.

He may be great at certain aspects of coaching and I'm sure he really is a nice guy. But how long do we (and by "we" I mean "you") make excuses? I wish I felt comfortable that he could turn things around given enough time but this is death by a thousand pricks. We need some passion and fire up in this here mother f***er and I don't see Matt bringing that if he hasn't already. If we're stuck in the CAA for the next year or for life, the least we can do is own it.

Yep. truth.

(04-06-2015 04:36 PM)Jmubarkers Wrote:  Coaches and most people have known Hari was leaving. Not really a big on court for next year. Brady handled hall situation pretty well. 70% sure a transfer is coming to Jmu.

A JUCO?

(04-06-2015 04:43 PM)2Buck Wrote:  Players that leave or transfer are usually riding the bench and want more playing time. It's usually not the best players / starters. Note I'm stating usually. He may not be to blame for Hall but it's just a pattern of the majority of his top talent not staying around, whatever the reasons. A coach is responsible for not only evaluating a player's talent but their mindset, emotional state, ability to commit, work ethic, ability to fit in the system, ability to play nice with others, etc.

Doesn't matter what the reasons are, it's obvious we can't consistently field a team that's stable and committed to JMU, and that responsibility resides squarely with the head coach. I don't care if other schools tolerate losing almost half their players, doesn't mean we have to. William & Mary has lost ZERO players from their current team and we've now lost 10 and probably an 11th. How do you build a team and continuity with that? I can't believe there are some who think we just can't do better, and have conceded dominance to the likes of ODU, Mason, VCU... and soon to Liberty, Radford, Bridgewater Community College, Eastern Mennonite, and Rockingham County Poultry School of the Gifted.

He may be great at certain aspects of coaching and I'm sure he really is a nice guy. But how long do we (and by "we" I mean "you") make excuses? I wish I felt comfortable that he could turn things around given enough time but this is death by a thousand pricks. We need some passion and fire up in this here mother f***er and I don't see Matt bringing that if he hasn't already. If we're stuck in the CAA for the next year or for life, the least we can do is own it.

Your asking a Coach to be able to predict what teenagers are going to do with their athletic future. There are also other factors like family and social aspects that can impact a players decision. Shoot, I almost left JMU in the spring of my freshman year , didn't think I would be able to fit in. And comparing us to a school like W&M in terms of recruiting is not fair.

Coaches three main goals i think in recruiting are , Talent , grades , and will they stay out of trouble. All those other factors are not predictable when dealing with 18-21 year old athletes.

(04-06-2015 05:40 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-06-2015 04:43 PM)2Buck Wrote:  Players that leave or transfer are usually riding the bench and want more playing time. It's usually not the best players / starters. Note I'm stating usually. He may not be to blame for Hall but it's just a pattern of the majority of his top talent not staying around, whatever the reasons. A coach is responsible for not only evaluating a player's talent but their mindset, emotional state, ability to commit, work ethic, ability to fit in the system, ability to play nice with others, etc.

Doesn't matter what the reasons are, it's obvious we can't consistently field a team that's stable and committed to JMU, and that responsibility resides squarely with the head coach. I don't care if other schools tolerate losing almost half their players, doesn't mean we have to. William & Mary has lost ZERO players from their current team and we've now lost 10 and probably an 11th. How do you build a team and continuity with that? I can't believe there are some who think we just can't do better, and have conceded dominance to the likes of ODU, Mason, VCU... and soon to Liberty, Radford, Bridgewater Community College, Eastern Mennonite, and Rockingham County Poultry School of the Gifted.

He may be great at certain aspects of coaching and I'm sure he really is a nice guy. But how long do we (and by "we" I mean "you") make excuses? I wish I felt comfortable that he could turn things around given enough time but this is death by a thousand pricks. We need some passion and fire up in this here mother f***er and I don't see Matt bringing that if he hasn't already. If we're stuck in the CAA for the next year or for life, the least we can do is own it.

Your asking a Coach to be able to predict what teenagers are going to do with their athletic future. There are also other factors like family and social aspects that can impact a players decision. Shoot, I almost left JMU in the spring of my freshman year , didn't think I would be able to fit in. And comparing us to a school like W&M in terms of recruiting is not fair.

Coaches three main goals i think in recruiting are , Talent , grades , and will they stay out of trouble. All those other factors are not predictable when dealing with 18-21 year old athletes.

JMU Men's Basketball Head Coach...the only job where you can make incorrect predictions as the main part of your job more than a meteorologist and not get fired!

Very interesting. Although we thought Hall would be an impact player, if his heart was not into it then it would never happen. Hate to see him go, but, didnt see him having much impact next season anyway.

1 Mc Clean 2 curry 3 morgan 4 Vodo 5 Yoyo

bench: kent, transfer, greys, satkus, demetri, Lukic, Roland in no particular order...still a deep team

(04-06-2015 06:59 PM)Potomac Wrote:  It's okay guys. One more year on Brady's contract... I think. Let's not win the CAA this time or it's five more years of Brady again.

Two, but the buyout on the final year is like $20k or something small.

There is no way to sugar coat it. The loss of Hall hurts. Brady was high on him after signing day saying he had the most potential to be an all CAA player as an upperclassman.

Truth be told I always felt he looked a lot like Terrance Howard and in a couple of years he might win an Academy Award too.

Best Original Song 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du_01sqzsck

Jon Stewart's post award comments are priceless.


And here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cr0nP3k_p4

Warning!!! Do not listen to this if you are offended by Rap lyrics!

I hope Hari strikes it rich!

(04-06-2015 07:05 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  There is no way to sugar coat it. The loss of Hall hurts. Brady was high on him after signing day saying he had the most potential to be an all CAA player as an upperclassman.

It unquestionably hurts to lose him. While he didn't have a great freshman campaign, he really did flash his talent at times. If he were to dedicate himself to the game, he could be really good, especially at the CAA level. JMU cannot sustain an excellent program (let alone hope to get there) if it's going to continue to lose its best players before they get a chance to fully develop. The only possible positive that can come out of this is that they possibly replace him with a guy that can contribute next season.

From listening to a very brief snippet of that music, I think he should have stuck with an education and basketball.

(04-06-2015 06:40 PM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  

(04-06-2015 05:40 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(04-06-2015 04:43 PM)2Buck Wrote:  Players that leave or transfer are usually riding the bench and want more playing time. It's usually not the best players / starters. Note I'm stating usually. He may not be to blame for Hall but it's just a pattern of the majority of his top talent not staying around, whatever the reasons. A coach is responsible for not only evaluating a player's talent but their mindset, emotional state, ability to commit, work ethic, ability to fit in the system, ability to play nice with others, etc.

Doesn't matter what the reasons are, it's obvious we can't consistently field a team that's stable and committed to JMU, and that responsibility resides squarely with the head coach. I don't care if other schools tolerate losing almost half their players, doesn't mean we have to. William & Mary has lost ZERO players from their current team and we've now lost 10 and probably an 11th. How do you build a team and continuity with that? I can't believe there are some who think we just can't do better, and have conceded dominance to the likes of ODU, Mason, VCU... and soon to Liberty, Radford, Bridgewater Community College, Eastern Mennonite, and Rockingham County Poultry School of the Gifted.

He may be great at certain aspects of coaching and I'm sure he really is a nice guy. But how long do we (and by "we" I mean "you") make excuses? I wish I felt comfortable that he could turn things around given enough time but this is death by a thousand pricks. We need some passion and fire up in this here mother f***er and I don't see Matt bringing that if he hasn't already. If we're stuck in the CAA for the next year or for life, the least we can do is own it.

Your asking a Coach to be able to predict what teenagers are going to do with their athletic future. There are also other factors like family and social aspects that can impact a players decision. Shoot, I almost left JMU in the spring of my freshman year , didn't think I would be able to fit in. And comparing us to a school like W&M in terms of recruiting is not fair.

Coaches three main goals i think in recruiting are , Talent , grades , and will they stay out of trouble. All those other factors are not predictable when dealing with 18-21 year old athletes.

JMU Men's Basketball Head Coach...the only job where you can make incorrect predictions as the main part of your job more than a meteorologist and not get fired!

Players in NFL and NBA go thru a more intrusive procress and things still happen. Cannot predict future behavior in young men under 25.

Maybe that concussion was even more serious than we thought!

(04-06-2015 07:57 PM)MamaDuke Wrote:  Maybe that concussion was even more serious than we thought!

or less.

My point is that we really don't know and I can absolutely see that it could have been more serious that we knew as you suggest, but it cannot be tossed out that it may have been less serious and he had already made his mind up that this life wasn't for him.

(04-06-2015 08:15 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(04-06-2015 07:57 PM)MamaDuke Wrote:  Maybe that concussion was even more serious than we thought!

or less.

My point is that we really don't know and I can absolutely see that it could have been more serious that we knew as you suggest, but it cannot be tossed out that it may have been less serious and he had already made his mind up that this life wasn't for him.

Actually that was meant as a joke - that it was serious enough to interfere with his judgment. :)

This rap group has about 1/6th the amount of followers as a JMU home game. In other words, they aren't commanding big signing deals that will help Hall's family.

On the brighter side, I can say with 100% confidence that he has a significantly better chance than Johnny Nap to be successful in the music biz.