Maybe we can play ypsilanti high school i hear their really good.

(03-09-2015 10:55 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 10:42 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 10:13 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Guys, tourneys are 'Win or go home' so a nailbiter one-point win is as big as a 20-point win.

Only to people like you. And as i stated at before season even started that this team could win 25 games and still go no where unless it wins the mac tournament. There is nothing in this season to cheer about if you truely know anything about college basketball. Most of our wins were to being lucky and not much skill.

I like it.

One of the most 'memorable' (and not in a good sense) when a few years ago we held NIU to 4 points in the first half and the board had a meltdown...

Like, hello.

We probably tied a MAC or NCAA record (can't do much better then hold your opponent to 4 points in a half) for defensive play and the board was outraged.

The folks who SHOULD have been outraged were the NIU fans. It was THEIR futility.

(03-10-2015 05:48 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 10:55 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 10:42 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 10:13 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Guys, tourneys are 'Win or go home' so a nailbiter one-point win is as big as a 20-point win.

Only to people like you. And as i stated at before season even started that this team could win 25 games and still go no where unless it wins the mac tournament. There is nothing in this season to cheer about if you truely know anything about college basketball. Most of our wins were to being lucky and not much skill.

I like it.

One of the most 'memorable' (and not in a good sense) when a few years ago we held NIU to 4 points in the first half and the board had a meltdown...

Like, hello.

We probably tied a MAC or NCAA record (can't do much better then hold your opponent to 4 points in a half) for defensive play and the board was outraged.

The folks who SHOULD have been outraged were the NIU fans. It was THEIR futility.

I here ypsilanti middle schools basketball team is pretty good :coffee3:might get some espn highlights with dunks over them when we have them down by 40!

(03-10-2015 04:51 AM)emu steve Wrote:  After reading this thread, I'm convinced there is a compelling need for a new forum. Mlive/CSNbbs-EMU I think has long since served its purposes and time for 'birds of a (particular) feather' (sorry for that expression, Huron fans, and that includes me) to stick together...

This forum has gotten totally dysfunctional and like a bad marriage of convenience.

While we should be enjoying the late season March run we are mirred in bull s*it. We've had personal attacks and a long running personal feud between two posters. Endless silly debates over silly things.

P.S. Someone mentioned to me last month his desire to do this (create a website with a message board). I'm fascinated.

I came to this board January 1, 2004 (over 11 years ago) to get away from Mlive...

There haven't been long running personal feuds. Quit exaggerating and let people express themselves. Can you imagine the boards of other universities if they experienced the never ending failures that EMU has over the last 20 years? There would be bloodshed. For a school with not much to cheer about, people have been amazingly restrained. Imagine how toxic WMU or CMU would be if they were as horrendous as EMU over the last several years. Just keep it real and quit sugarcoating everything.

(03-10-2015 04:51 AM)emu steve Wrote:  After reading this thread, I'm convinced there is a compelling need for a new forum. Mlive/CSNbbs-EMU I think has long since served its purposes and time for 'birds of a (particular) feather' (sorry for that expression, Huron fans, and that includes me) to stick together...

This forum has gotten totally dysfunctional and like a bad marriage of convenience.

While we should be enjoying the late season March run we are mirred in bull s*it. We've had personal attacks and a long running personal feud between two posters. Endless silly debates over silly things.

P.S. Someone mentioned to me last month his desire to do this (create a website with a message board). I'm fascinated.

I came to this board January 1, 2004 (over 11 years ago) to get away from Mlive...

Steve to be honest you have problems with people who disagree with YOU and don't see things the way you do. Fess up to that. Second you have yes you have tried to control expression and opinions on this board and that apparently REALLY frustrates you. If you want to fly away to a board where only YES people ie those that agree with your point of view more power to you and yours. Yes LATELY there have been some silly personal attacks aka M Live but that is an outlier. But as one of the MODS pointed out this board is actually pretty good compared to some on this site. I appreciate your dedication to EMU sports I really do but unless you want to hear the echo of your own voice as was the case when you landed here I would suggest we all try to improve our behavior and make this board the best it can be. Super and Bob especially enough is enough I know Super and I don't know Bob but take your disagreements and history somewhere else besides this board or at be civil to one another.

Dissenting opinions happen on basically any message board you go to. Some people on this board go wayyy too far with them sometimes, but at least none of us have been sued (that we know of). The personal speculation annoys me, but it's been a frustrating season for both sports. That won't stop me from rooting for this team to win every single game they play, but if it's the opposite for some posters, and they feel the need to post it here, then knock yourselves out.

It's a shame we get more posts about stuff like this rather than the actual game content. Believe it or not, EMU played a basketball game yesterday and have one tomorrow too.

(03-10-2015 07:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-10-2015 04:51 AM)emu steve Wrote:  After reading this thread, I'm convinced there is a compelling need for a new forum. Mlive/CSNbbs-EMU I think has long since served its purposes and time for 'birds of a (particular) feather' (sorry for that expression, Huron fans, and that includes me) to stick together...

This forum has gotten totally dysfunctional and like a bad marriage of convenience.

While we should be enjoying the late season March run we are mirred in bull s*it. We've had personal attacks and a long running personal feud between two posters. Endless silly debates over silly things.

P.S. Someone mentioned to me last month his desire to do this (create a website with a message board). I'm fascinated.

I came to this board January 1, 2004 (over 11 years ago) to get away from Mlive...

Steve to be honest you have problems with people who disagree with YOU and don't see things the way you do. Fess up to that. Second you have yes you have tried to control expression and opinions on this board and that apparently REALLY frustrates you. If you want to fly away to a board where only YES people ie those that agree with your point of view more power to you and yours. Yes LATELY there have been some silly personal attacks aka M Live but that is an outlier. But as one of the MODS pointed out this board is actually pretty good compared to some on this site. I appreciate your dedication to EMU sports I really do but unless you want to hear the echo of your own voice as was the case when you landed here I would suggest we all try to improve our behavior and make this board the best it can be. Super and Bob especially enough is enough I know Super and I don't know Bob but take your disagreements and history somewhere else besides this board or at be civil to one another.

Sounds like a good reason for me to leave.

There is a real schism on this board. One half (give or take) belong in one corner and a bunch of others in another. To point the finger at me, and not some of the others who are constantly trying to agitate, is sad, '79.

There have been real disagreements here and a lot of it does NOT involve me. I haven't had any problems with the majority of posters and haven't gotten into ad hominem attacks.

When I left Mlive I wondered what effect me leaving would have (folks couldn't argue with me it I weren't there to argue with).

Not to my surprise the bull s*it continued until the board imploded under personal attacks, etc. and I believe Nickle found this site (I had been on it a long time basically posting on MAC matters).

Steve, I don't think 79 was singling you out but rather responding to your post. We'd all like you to stay.

As for the excessive arguing, we can all show restraint and not respond to comments that we feel are so absurd, I won't give any examples. Let it go and we'll only have to read it once.

There are optimists and there pessimists and those in between. Everybody supports EMU they just show it in different ways. Don't get annoyed by it, just ignore it.

(03-10-2015 10:23 AM)rayEMU Wrote:  Steve, I don't think 79 was singling you out but rather responding to your post. We'd all like you to stay.

As for the excessive arguing, we can all show restraint and not respond to comments that we feel are so absurd, I wcon't give any examples. Let it go and we'll only have to read it once.

There are optimists and there pessimists and those in between. Everybody supports EMU they just show it in different ways. Don't get annoyed by it, just ignore it.

Then there are those of us that are realist and of practically. Steve we want you to stay but you need to accept that there are those of us that see things in a differnt light. Read it once then move on.

I am a little confused here, in my opinion there is no reason why we should be unhappy about Murph. Whoever thought that rebuilding such a crappy program in a couple seasons is possible is a fool. To build something good here at EMU it will take YEARS and DECADES for our football team.

So so far, Murph won the MAC West - hasn't been done in ages. And has gotten us to one post season tourny - hasn't been done in ages. He also now has 2 back to back 20 win season - when was the last time we have done that ?

Oh and he has a winning record as an EMU coach - when was the last time that happened ?

He deserves at least 2 more years here at EMU if he would like. I have faith in him and thank him for making our program respectable. The only way from here is up in my opinion.

But yeah maybe we should get another coach and start another rebuild after two 20 win season for historically bad program in the last 15 years. Makes sense...or wait it doesn't.

I want emu sports to be respected for be good sportsmanship and treat other teams with respect. Not to do slam dunks when they have a team down by 15 to 20 with 2 minutes left in the Game. We didn't like it when they did it to us and we shouldn't do it to others. I've know steve for almost 20 years and have had this same difference for that long. We have poked fun at each other but never took it to far. Ie harassment. Ive tried to make him more pragmatic and he has always tried to not worry and be, hey tnat could be a thyme for a song. And has never made fun of my poor spelling. I hope he stays.

And just incase you haven't noticed i no longer respond to that person.

Where I see the 'social media' world going. Guess this qualifies as social media.

Originally, it was like MLive. A media company would open a site and not moderator it. Kind of like social media wild west. Few, if any, rules. Good luck. Have a thick skin and be ready...

Then along comes sites like the which are open to all but lightly moderated. A step forward. Still there are real issues with folks who differ in terms of what they think and believe and temperament. Some love to rant and some hate it. As indicated, some folks are optimists and others not.

Now, I guess, in the era of private Twitter, folks can correspond through that medium and protect posts and posters. The idea that not all information exchange should be public and open to all. Folks can choose to associate with whom they want and NOT associate with those whom they do not choose. Just like someone doesn't have the right to come on my property to 'educate' me on their political, religious, etc. thoughts. That is NOT what free speech means. Why would a progressive go to CPAC and be with conservatives or a conservative go to say Moveon.org to be with liberals. Except to argue?

Sometimes, unless one wants to rant and debate, folks do better when they associate with others who are 'in the ballpark' with themselves in what they like, how they think, what they value, temperament, etc.

(03-10-2015 11:01 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Where I see the 'social media' world going. Guess this qualifies as social media.

Originally, it was like MLive. A media company would open a site and not moderator it. Kind of like social media wild west. Few, if any, rules. Good luck. Have a thick skin and be ready...

Then along comes sites like the which are open to all but lightly moderated. A step forward. Still there are real issues with folks who differ in terms of what they think and believe and temperament. Some love to rant and some hate it. As indicated, some folks are optimists and others not.

Now, I guess, in the era of private Twitter, folks can correspond through that medium and protect posts and posters. The idea that not all information exchange should be public and open to all. Folks can choose to associate with whom they want and NOT associate with those whom they do not choose. Just like someone doesn't have the right to come on my property to 'educate' me on their political, religious, etc. thoughts. That is NOT what free speech means. Why would a progressive go to CPAC and be with conservatives or a conservative go to say Moveon.org to be with liberals. Except to argue?

Sometimes, unless one wants to rant and debate, folks do better when they associate with others who are 'in the ballpark' with themselves in what they like, how they think, what they value, temperament, etc.

Its called self reinforcement. The trouble with that is it lead being closed mind and intolerance of others that think differently. And we've seen where that leads to all through out history.

(03-10-2015 12:38 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(03-10-2015 11:01 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Where I see the 'social media' world going. Guess this qualifies as social media.

Originally, it was like MLive. A media company would open a site and not moderator it. Kind of like social media wild west. Few, if any, rules. Good luck. Have a thick skin and be ready...

Then along comes sites like the which are open to all but lightly moderated. A step forward. Still there are real issues with folks who differ in terms of what they think and believe and temperament. Some love to rant and some hate it. As indicated, some folks are optimists and others not.

Now, I guess, in the era of private Twitter, folks can correspond through that medium and protect posts and posters. The idea that not all information exchange should be public and open to all. Folks can choose to associate with whom they want and NOT associate with those whom they do not choose. Just like someone doesn't have the right to come on my property to 'educate' me on their political, religious, etc. thoughts. That is NOT what free speech means. Why would a progressive go to CPAC and be with conservatives or a conservative go to say Moveon.org to be with liberals. Except to argue?

Sometimes, unless one wants to rant and debate, folks do better when they associate with others who are 'in the ballpark' with themselves in what they like, how they think, what they value, temperament, etc.

Its called self reinforcement. The trouble with that is it lead being closed mind and intolerance of others that think differently. And we've seen where that leads to all through out history.

I know what an 'echo chamber' is but if one wants a full range of thoughts and feelings on EMU athletics, one can go to the main MAC board.

Believe, we hear ALL of the negative about EMU on that forum.

No one who visits that (MAC) forum is living in an illusionary world.

I honestly don't know anyone here who has a grandiose, unrealistic view of EMU athletics. I haven't heard anyone say we are going to the NCAAs, or the women to the NCAAs or our FB team will go bowling next year.

As far as this season, I believe two posters specified a number of wins:

EMU79, I'm pretty sure, picked 18.

I picked 22.

Neither seem outlandish today. '79 was on the low end; I on the high end.

(03-10-2015 01:59 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-10-2015 12:38 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(03-10-2015 11:01 AM)emu steve Wrote:  Where I see the 'social media' world going. Guess this qualifies as social media.

Originally, it was like MLive. A media company would open a site and not moderator it. Kind of like social media wild west. Few, if any, rules. Good luck. Have a thick skin and be ready...

Then along comes sites like the which are open to all but lightly moderated. A step forward. Still there are real issues with folks who differ in terms of what they think and believe and temperament. Some love to rant and some hate it. As indicated, some folks are optimists and others not.

Now, I guess, in the era of private Twitter, folks can correspond through that medium and protect posts and posters. The idea that not all information exchange should be public and open to all. Folks can choose to associate with whom they want and NOT associate with those whom they do not choose. Just like someone doesn't have the right to come on my property to 'educate' me on their political, religious, etc. thoughts. That is NOT what free speech means. Why would a progressive go to CPAC and be with conservatives or a conservative go to say Moveon.org to be with liberals. Except to argue?

Sometimes, unless one wants to rant and debate, folks do better when they associate with others who are 'in the ballpark' with themselves in what they like, how they think, what they value, temperament, etc.

Its called self reinforcement. The trouble with that is it lead being closed mind and intolerance of others that think differently. And we've seen where that leads to all through out history.

I know what an 'echo chamber' is but if one wants a full range of thoughts and feelings on EMU athletics, one can go to the main MAC board.

Believe, we hear ALL of the negative about EMU on that forum.

No one who visits that (MAC) forum is living in an illusionary world.

I honestly don't know anyone here who has a grandiose, unrealistic view of EMU athletics. I haven't heard anyone say we are going to the NCAAs, or the women to the NCAAs or our FB team will go bowling next year.

As far as this season, I believe two posters specified a number of wins:

EMU79, I'm pretty sure, picked 18.

I picked 22.

Neither seem outlandish today. '79 was on the low end; I on the high end.

Luckeyone said 10-14 wins (Bob concurred), in a very memorable thread.

But that's why I try not to throw out season predictions. On December 30th, some thought we were legit MAC Title contenders. By January 30th, some thought we were the worst team in the MAC. On March 10th, we are somewhere in between both of those. It's been a roller coaster of a season.

(03-10-2015 07:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-10-2015 04:51 AM)emu steve Wrote:  After reading this thread, I'm convinced there is a compelling need for a new forum. Mlive/CSNbbs-EMU I think has long since served its purposes and time for 'birds of a (particular) feather' (sorry for that expression, Huron fans, and that includes me) to stick together...

This forum has gotten totally dysfunctional and like a bad marriage of convenience.

While we should be enjoying the late season March run we are mirred in bull s*it. We've had personal attacks and a long running personal feud between two posters. Endless silly debates over silly things.

P.S. Someone mentioned to me last month his desire to do this (create a website with a message board). I'm fascinated.

I came to this board January 1, 2004 (over 11 years ago) to get away from Mlive...

Steve to be honest you have problems with people who disagree with YOU and don't see things the way you do. Fess up to that. Second you have yes you have tried to control expression and opinions on this board and that apparently REALLY frustrates you.

Never has there been a more truthful statement on this board. Cue Steve's contrived self-righteous indignation in 5, 4, 3...

(03-10-2015 02:58 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(03-10-2015 07:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-10-2015 04:51 AM)emu steve Wrote:  After reading this thread, I'm convinced there is a compelling need for a new forum. Mlive/CSNbbs-EMU I think has long since served its purposes and time for 'birds of a (particular) feather' (sorry for that expression, Huron fans, and that includes me) to stick together...

This forum has gotten totally dysfunctional and like a bad marriage of convenience.

While we should be enjoying the late season March run we are mirred in bull s*it. We've had personal attacks and a long running personal feud between two posters. Endless silly debates over silly things.

P.S. Someone mentioned to me last month his desire to do this (create a website with a message board). I'm fascinated.

I came to this board January 1, 2004 (over 11 years ago) to get away from Mlive...

Steve to be honest you have problems with people who disagree with YOU and don't see things the way you do. Fess up to that. Second you have yes you have tried to control expression and opinions on this board and that apparently REALLY frustrates you.

Never has there been a more truthful statement on this board. Cue Steve's contrived self-righteous indignation in 5, 4, 3...

Sir, you are one of several posters (here) who will probably try to argue with the Almighty on Judgment Day.

Good luck with that one...

Right on schedule.

(03-10-2015 03:31 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(03-10-2015 02:58 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(03-10-2015 07:23 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(03-10-2015 04:51 AM)emu steve Wrote:  After reading this thread, I'm convinced there is a compelling need for a new forum. Mlive/CSNbbs-EMU I think has long since served its purposes and time for 'birds of a (particular) feather' (sorry for that expression, Huron fans, and that includes me) to stick together...

This forum has gotten totally dysfunctional and like a bad marriage of convenience.

While we should be enjoying the late season March run we are mirred in bull s*it. We've had personal attacks and a long running personal feud between two posters. Endless silly debates over silly things.

P.S. Someone mentioned to me last month his desire to do this (create a website with a message board). I'm fascinated.

I came to this board January 1, 2004 (over 11 years ago) to get away from Mlive...

Steve to be honest you have problems with people who disagree with YOU and don't see things the way you do. Fess up to that. Second you have yes you have tried to control expression and opinions on this board and that apparently REALLY frustrates you.

Never has there been a more truthful statement on this board. Cue Steve's contrived self-righteous indignation in 5, 4, 3...

Sir, you are one of several posters (here) who will probably try to argue with the Almighty on Judgment Day.

Good luck with that one...

I won!