(02-19-2015 07:32 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 06:57 PM)MJG Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 05:18 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote:  Guess it's time to head back to the SoCon guys.

I could see the SBC getting an equal contract to CUSA.

The current deal is bad and last a long time.

Yep, but the conference has to improve first and I think it will. I know that my school could not afford to take another conference offer right now. I suspect there are several more that couldn't either.

There's some good football played in the Belt and some really bad football too. If we can elevate the bottom half of the conference it will improve its perception. If you take it for what it is, it's fun to watch!

I'm not a basketball fan, but the best I can tell SBC basketball is a cluster. That's a shame because there is good money and exposure there.

I know the vast majority of people don't care/follow, but I'm a big baseball fan and I'm very excited about this season. There are lots of solid programs and most have a history of success.

The SBC has two programs in football that have not been very good for a long time and one newcomer that has not done anything yet. The rest are at a minimum competitive and recently bowl eligible and mostly making upgrades to facilities, budgets, etc. Baseball in the SBC is really good. Women's BB is good. Men's BB is in need of repair.

You can look at the other G5s and find terrible teams at the bottom and only a few teams are what you could classify as "elite" FBS football programs.

(02-24-2015 12:05 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 11:17 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 11:10 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 10:55 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:44 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  None of these suggestions address the core issue- FBS D1 College Football is the only sports league on the planet that doesn't provide its members a direct path to a championship. FCS does it, D1 men's basketball does, why doesn't FBS do it? That's the conversation every fan of a non-P5 school should be pushing because the Cartel knows that to solve that problem you have to tear down their totally corrupt, rigged system.

Trying to make 5 into 4 or have 1 break off only fragments their opposition and makes us all weaker.

Why is it important that there be a national championship? Is it just because everybody else does it? College football has thrived for more than 140 years without one. Is it suddenly going to wither on the vine if we never have one?

you mean besides the fact that its dishonest, unsportsmanlike and totally corrupt?

I mean besides the fact that perimeterpost believes the system is corrupt. Whether it is or not, having a championship tournament wouldn't change that.

you act like giving every team in a sport league a direct path to a championship game is something special. It's STANDARD.

In other words, it is just because everybody else does it. I don't act like having a national championship tournament is special. I just act like it isn't necessary. If it were, we'd have had one in the 146 years of college football's existence.

And, during much of that time, many teams have had a path to a championship if they wanted one. Their conference championship.

(02-24-2015 12:17 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:05 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 11:17 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 11:10 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 10:55 AM)ken d Wrote:  Why is it important that there be a national championship? Is it just because everybody else does it? College football has thrived for more than 140 years without one. Is it suddenly going to wither on the vine if we never have one?

you mean besides the fact that its dishonest, unsportsmanlike and totally corrupt?

I mean besides the fact that perimeterpost believes the system is corrupt. Whether it is or not, having a championship tournament wouldn't change that.

you act like giving every team in a sport league a direct path to a championship game is something special. It's STANDARD.

In other words, it is just because everybody else does it. I don't act like having a national championship tournament is special. I just act like it isn't necessary. If it were, we'd have had one in the 146 years of college football's existence.

And, during much of that time, many teams have had a path to a championship if they wanted one. Their conference championship.

you're right, my bad. so what if a group of corrupt men who factor in things like "tv ratings" are the only ones who gets to decide which 4 of 128 teams get a chance to play for a championship. There's nothing wrong with that at all. How silly of me to suggest otherwise.

(02-24-2015 03:28 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:17 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:05 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 11:17 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 11:10 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  you mean besides the fact that its dishonest, unsportsmanlike and totally corrupt?

I mean besides the fact that perimeterpost believes the system is corrupt. Whether it is or not, having a championship tournament wouldn't change that.

you act like giving every team in a sport league a direct path to a championship game is something special. It's STANDARD.

In other words, it is just because everybody else does it. I don't act like having a national championship tournament is special. I just act like it isn't necessary. If it were, we'd have had one in the 146 years of college football's existence.

And, during much of that time, many teams have had a path to a championship if they wanted one. Their conference championship.

you're right, my bad. so what if a group of corrupt men who factor in things like "tv ratings" are the only ones who gets to decide which 4 of 128 teams get a chance to play for a championship. There's nothing wrong with that at all. How silly of me to suggest otherwise.

Well then, there is always FCS for Ohio! If you feel so wrong then just have them drop down to FCS.

We could always go back to the old days where teams like Ohio will never, ever sniff a Major Bowl possibility.

(02-24-2015 03:28 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:17 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:05 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 11:17 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 11:10 AM)perimeterpost Wrote:  you mean besides the fact that its dishonest, unsportsmanlike and totally corrupt?

I mean besides the fact that perimeterpost believes the system is corrupt. Whether it is or not, having a championship tournament wouldn't change that.

you act like giving every team in a sport league a direct path to a championship game is something special. It's STANDARD.

In other words, it is just because everybody else does it. I don't act like having a national championship tournament is special. I just act like it isn't necessary. If it were, we'd have had one in the 146 years of college football's existence.

And, during much of that time, many teams have had a path to a championship if they wanted one. Their conference championship.

you're right, my bad. so what if a group of corrupt men who factor in things like "tv ratings" are the only ones who gets to decide which 4 of 128 teams get a chance to play for a championship. There's nothing wrong with that at all. How silly of me to suggest otherwise.

I have no reason to believe that the people who make such decisions are any more or less corrupt than you are. And of course they should factor in TV ratings. They are producing an entertainment show, not electing a president. If you have some evidence that any of the members of the CFP selection committee are "corrupt", you should share it with the rest of us.

(02-24-2015 03:34 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:28 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:17 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:05 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 11:17 AM)ken d Wrote:  I mean besides the fact that perimeterpost believes the system is corrupt. Whether it is or not, having a championship tournament wouldn't change that.

you act like giving every team in a sport league a direct path to a championship game is something special. It's STANDARD.

In other words, it is just because everybody else does it. I don't act like having a national championship tournament is special. I just act like it isn't necessary. If it were, we'd have had one in the 146 years of college football's existence.

And, during much of that time, many teams have had a path to a championship if they wanted one. Their conference championship.

you're right, my bad. so what if a group of corrupt men who factor in things like "tv ratings" are the only ones who gets to decide which 4 of 128 teams get a chance to play for a championship. There's nothing wrong with that at all. How silly of me to suggest otherwise.

Well then, there is always FCS for Ohio! If you feel so wrong then just have them drop down to FCS.

We could always go back to the old days where teams like Ohio will never, ever sniff a Major Bowl possibility.

your solution is to tell me to go sit in the back of the bus and know my place?

(02-24-2015 03:53 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:28 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:17 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:05 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 11:17 AM)ken d Wrote:  I mean besides the fact that perimeterpost believes the system is corrupt. Whether it is or not, having a championship tournament wouldn't change that.

you act like giving every team in a sport league a direct path to a championship game is something special. It's STANDARD.

In other words, it is just because everybody else does it. I don't act like having a national championship tournament is special. I just act like it isn't necessary. If it were, we'd have had one in the 146 years of college football's existence.

And, during much of that time, many teams have had a path to a championship if they wanted one. Their conference championship.

you're right, my bad. so what if a group of corrupt men who factor in things like "tv ratings" are the only ones who gets to decide which 4 of 128 teams get a chance to play for a championship. There's nothing wrong with that at all. How silly of me to suggest otherwise.

I have no reason to believe that the people who make such decisions are any more or less corrupt than you are. And of course they should factor in TV ratings. They are producing an entertainment show, not electing a president. If you have some evidence that any of the members of the CFP selection committee are "corrupt", you should share it with the rest of us.

that's what I like about you, you're a sports fan that hates sportsmanship. Tell me more about how tv ratings are legitimate factors in deciding amateur college athletic competitions.

(02-24-2015 04:26 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:53 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:28 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:17 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:05 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  you act like giving every team in a sport league a direct path to a championship game is something special. It's STANDARD.

In other words, it is just because everybody else does it. I don't act like having a national championship tournament is special. I just act like it isn't necessary. If it were, we'd have had one in the 146 years of college football's existence.

And, during much of that time, many teams have had a path to a championship if they wanted one. Their conference championship.

you're right, my bad. so what if a group of corrupt men who factor in things like "tv ratings" are the only ones who gets to decide which 4 of 128 teams get a chance to play for a championship. There's nothing wrong with that at all. How silly of me to suggest otherwise.

I have no reason to believe that the people who make such decisions are any more or less corrupt than you are. And of course they should factor in TV ratings. They are producing an entertainment show, not electing a president. If you have some evidence that any of the members of the CFP selection committee are "corrupt", you should share it with the rest of us.

that's what I like about you, you're a sports fan that hates sportsmanship. Tell me more about how tv ratings are legitimate factors in deciding amateur college athletic competitions.

TV ratings are as legitimate in deciding sports competition as a bunch of sportswriters taking a poll amongst themselves or a committee of biased AD's and former Secretaries of State picking based on their opinions.

College football and Olympic Ice Dancing have more in common than most think.

(02-24-2015 04:19 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:34 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:28 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:17 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:05 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  you act like giving every team in a sport league a direct path to a championship game is something special. It's STANDARD.

In other words, it is just because everybody else does it. I don't act like having a national championship tournament is special. I just act like it isn't necessary. If it were, we'd have had one in the 146 years of college football's existence.

And, during much of that time, many teams have had a path to a championship if they wanted one. Their conference championship.

you're right, my bad. so what if a group of corrupt men who factor in things like "tv ratings" are the only ones who gets to decide which 4 of 128 teams get a chance to play for a championship. There's nothing wrong with that at all. How silly of me to suggest otherwise.

Well then, there is always FCS for Ohio! If you feel so wrong then just have them drop down to FCS.

We could always go back to the old days where teams like Ohio will never, ever sniff a Major Bowl possibility.

your solution is to tell me to go sit in the back of the bus and know my place?

No, I'm telling you that you are not in the back of the bus. Our G5 schools were before the BCS was created. We moved up with the BCS and now are closer to the front with the CFP.
Perspective....understand the history and know that things are even better today than 2 years ago and before the BCS.

(02-24-2015 04:26 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:53 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:28 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:17 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:05 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  you act like giving every team in a sport league a direct path to a championship game is something special. It's STANDARD.

In other words, it is just because everybody else does it. I don't act like having a national championship tournament is special. I just act like it isn't necessary. If it were, we'd have had one in the 146 years of college football's existence.

And, during much of that time, many teams have had a path to a championship if they wanted one. Their conference championship.

you're right, my bad. so what if a group of corrupt men who factor in things like "tv ratings" are the only ones who gets to decide which 4 of 128 teams get a chance to play for a championship. There's nothing wrong with that at all. How silly of me to suggest otherwise.

I have no reason to believe that the people who make such decisions are any more or less corrupt than you are. And of course they should factor in TV ratings. They are producing an entertainment show, not electing a president. If you have some evidence that any of the members of the CFP selection committee are "corrupt", you should share it with the rest of us.

that's what I like about you, you're a sports fan that hates sportsmanship. Tell me more about how tv ratings are legitimate factors in deciding amateur college athletic competitions.

No, what I am is a sports fan who hates listening to people hiding behind the anonymity of the internet to slander the reputations of honorable people. That's not sportsmanship.

(02-24-2015 06:09 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 04:19 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:34 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:28 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:17 PM)ken d Wrote:  In other words, it is just because everybody else does it. I don't act like having a national championship tournament is special. I just act like it isn't necessary. If it were, we'd have had one in the 146 years of college football's existence.

And, during much of that time, many teams have had a path to a championship if they wanted one. Their conference championship.

you're right, my bad. so what if a group of corrupt men who factor in things like "tv ratings" are the only ones who gets to decide which 4 of 128 teams get a chance to play for a championship. There's nothing wrong with that at all. How silly of me to suggest otherwise.

Well then, there is always FCS for Ohio! If you feel so wrong then just have them drop down to FCS.

We could always go back to the old days where teams like Ohio will never, ever sniff a Major Bowl possibility.

your solution is to tell me to go sit in the back of the bus and know my place?

No, I'm telling you that you are not in the back of the bus. Our G5 schools were before the BCS was created. We moved up with the BCS and now are closer to the front with the CFP.
Perspective....understand the history and know that things are even better today than 2 years ago and before the BCS.

yes, having our own water fountain is so much better than not having water at all.

(02-24-2015 09:10 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 04:26 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:53 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 03:28 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  

(02-24-2015 12:17 PM)ken d Wrote:  In other words, it is just because everybody else does it. I don't act like having a national championship tournament is special. I just act like it isn't necessary. If it were, we'd have had one in the 146 years of college football's existence.

And, during much of that time, many teams have had a path to a championship if they wanted one. Their conference championship.

you're right, my bad. so what if a group of corrupt men who factor in things like "tv ratings" are the only ones who gets to decide which 4 of 128 teams get a chance to play for a championship. There's nothing wrong with that at all. How silly of me to suggest otherwise.

I have no reason to believe that the people who make such decisions are any more or less corrupt than you are. And of course they should factor in TV ratings. They are producing an entertainment show, not electing a president. If you have some evidence that any of the members of the CFP selection committee are "corrupt", you should share it with the rest of us.

that's what I like about you, you're a sports fan that hates sportsmanship. Tell me more about how tv ratings are legitimate factors in deciding amateur college athletic competitions.

No, what I am is a sports fan who hates listening to people hiding behind the anonymity of the internet to slander the reputations of honorable people. That's not sportsmanship.

child please.