Quote: You don't have to hate each other for it to be a rivalry. There's lots of rivalries based on mutual respect.

In sports, I think hate is usually a form of respect, even if you don't want to admit it.

I actually grew up in Louisville, and was the biggest Louisville fan in history. I've since gone to another college for undergrad, yet another college for grad school, and have worked at and or lived in several places since then so my loyalty has faded toward Louisville as it has grown for other schools. I like to see them do well, but I wouldn't call myself a fan.

But when I was a fan, Cincinnati was not a rivalry. At the very least it didn't fit my definition of a rivalry. It was oftentimes a big game, but it didn't move the needle nearly as much as Memphis or Kentucky did. Not even close. Even in the late 90s/early 00s under Huggins when Cincinnati was clearly the better team, it was still a big showcase game, but not a rivalry.

Even in the Big East years, I think there was more heat between Louisville and West Virginia than there was between Louisville and Cincinnati.

That's not an insult to UC. Sometimes you just don't hate everybody. If anything, I think Louisville fans rooted for Cincinnati far more often than they rooted against them.

Memphis is a basketball rival while Cincy is more a football rival. U of L has played those two more than anyone in basketball and football.

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(02-11-2015 12:24 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  If the Bills ever leave Buffalo...UB might become a team that Upstate NY cares about. No one cares about Buffalo outside of some alumni.

I met a Buffalo alum in Dallas today. He's an attorney.

Maybe there's more of them than we think.

(02-11-2015 08:52 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(02-11-2015 12:24 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  If the Bills ever leave Buffalo...UB might become a team that Upstate NY cares about. No one cares about Buffalo outside of some alumni.

I met a Buffalo alum in Dallas today. He's an attorney.

Maybe there's more of them than we think.

And did he care about the Bulls? UB fans are basically within 10 miles of the campus.

"P5" schools rarely admit "rivalries" with "G5" schools, no matter the situation or how many times they have played. Ole Miss is only 70 miles from Memphis, we compete for recruits and coverage and have been playing since 1921, but their fans say it isn't a "rivalry", despite the fact that there have been several periods when we beat them 2 or more games in a row. They do lead the series by a comfortable margin, as they should with all their advantages, but anyone who watches their fans during our games, will see as much intensity in their expressions as in any other "rivalry" except against in-state rival Miss State.

(02-08-2015 11:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(02-07-2015 07:23 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  2. West Virginia vs Marshall, except that Marshall never won and Mountaineer fans didn't care when the series ended.

This was never a rivalry, except in the mind of Marshall fans.

On the contrary, WVU fans have been obsessed by Marshall since it became a rising power in the FCS. Even recently, they nearly rioted when Rakeem Cato was invited to be part of the lead-in to one of their games on Gameday. And I am sure that all of you have seen the anger routinely expressed by WVU fans when the Marshall name is mentioned. They lay awake at night in Morgantown terrified that the Big 12 might want to invite Marshall. Or just as bad, the WVU President will want to renew the series.

(02-19-2015 11:35 AM)greenwolfe Wrote:  

(02-08-2015 11:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(02-07-2015 07:23 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  2. West Virginia vs Marshall, except that Marshall never won and Mountaineer fans didn't care when the series ended.

This was never a rivalry, except in the mind of Marshall fans.

On the contrary, WVU fans have been obsessed by Marshall since it became a rising power in the FCS. Even recently, they nearly rioted when Rakeem Cato was invited to be part of the lead-in to one of their games on Gameday. And I am sure that all of you have seen the anger routinely expressed by WVU fans when the Marshall name is mentioned. They lay awake at night in Morgantown terrified that the Big 12 might want to invite Marshall. Or just as bad, the WVU President will want to renew the series.

All of Morgantown is terrified?

Get over yourself, dude.

(02-19-2015 11:35 AM)greenwolfe Wrote:  

(02-08-2015 11:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(02-07-2015 07:23 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  2. West Virginia vs Marshall, except that Marshall never won and Mountaineer fans didn't care when the series ended.

This was never a rivalry, except in the mind of Marshall fans.

On the contrary, WVU fans have been obsessed by Marshall since it became a rising power in the FCS. Even recently, they nearly rioted when Rakeem Cato was invited to be part of the lead-in to one of their games on Gameday. And I am sure that all of you have seen the anger routinely expressed by WVU fans when the Marshall name is mentioned. They lay awake at night in Morgantown terrified that the Big 12 might want to invite Marshall. Or just as bad, the WVU President will want to renew the series.

I don't think WVU is terrified, but from the outside looking in it does seem that WVU is very highly fixated on anything and everything that Marshall does. They're also quick to downplay anything and everything Marshall does. They're not always wrong, but it's still somewhat strange that they always seem to feel the need to do it.

Louisville does not make it a point to fixate on anything and everything Western Kentucky does and talk at length about how they play in a weaker conference and how they aren't even very good within that weak conference, and how playing them would be a bad idea over and over and over and over. West Virginia does do that with Marshall, and it's pretty noticeable to everyone on the outside looking in.

(02-19-2015 12:33 PM)David HD Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 11:35 AM)greenwolfe Wrote:  

(02-08-2015 11:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(02-07-2015 07:23 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  2. West Virginia vs Marshall, except that Marshall never won and Mountaineer fans didn't care when the series ended.

This was never a rivalry, except in the mind of Marshall fans.

On the contrary, WVU fans have been obsessed by Marshall since it became a rising power in the FCS. Even recently, they nearly rioted when Rakeem Cato was invited to be part of the lead-in to one of their games on Gameday. And I am sure that all of you have seen the anger routinely expressed by WVU fans when the Marshall name is mentioned. They lay awake at night in Morgantown terrified that the Big 12 might want to invite Marshall. Or just as bad, the WVU President will want to renew the series.

I don't think WVU is terrified, but from the outside looking in it does seem that WVU is very highly fixated on anything and everything that Marshall does. They're also quick to downplay anything and everything Marshall does. They're not always wrong, but it's still somewhat strange that they always seem to feel the need to do it.

Louisville does not make it a point to fixate on anything and everything Western Kentucky does and talk at length about how they play in a weaker conference and how they aren't even very good within that weak conference, and how playing them would be a bad idea over and over and over and over. West Virginia does do that with Marshall, and it's pretty noticeable to everyone on the outside looking in.

Thank you David, I was not comparing Marshall to WVU. WVU gets tremendous support from the state that Marshall doesn't get, so we will always be the # 2 in this situation, however, you do verify what I was saying about WVU fans. They are far more concerned with Marshall, than Marshall is even about itself. They routinely make a**es of themselves over Marshall. Marshall is quite pleased with what we have accomplished and will continue to flourish in CUSA. We are actually in a perfect position in the FBS. Every year we get to make our mark on the national stage and WVU fans hate us for it.

P5-G5
I'll look at it from an Eastern perspective here:
Rutgers-UConn
Rutgers-Temple
Rutgers-Navy
Rutgers-Army
Syracuse-UConn
BC-UConn
PSU-Temple
Pitt-Temple
ND-Navy
Maryland-Navy

(02-19-2015 11:57 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(02-19-2015 11:35 AM)greenwolfe Wrote:  

(02-08-2015 11:50 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(02-07-2015 07:23 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  2. West Virginia vs Marshall, except that Marshall never won and Mountaineer fans didn't care when the series ended.

This was never a rivalry, except in the mind of Marshall fans.

On the contrary, WVU fans have been obsessed by Marshall since it became a rising power in the FCS. Even recently, they nearly rioted when Rakeem Cato was invited to be part of the lead-in to one of their games on Gameday. And I am sure that all of you have seen the anger routinely expressed by WVU fans when the Marshall name is mentioned. They lay awake at night in Morgantown terrified that the Big 12 might want to invite Marshall. Or just as bad, the WVU President will want to renew the series.

All of Morgantown is terrified?

Get over yourself, dude.

Seems obvious he's a troll, he only has 10 posts.

Don't know. Don't care.