(01-25-2015 02:06 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:00 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 12:39 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 12:26 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 12:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  You chose to be straight, saying otherwise makes you a liar.

So..There is conscience choice made at some point in our lives?

I honestly don't remember such an event personally.

At some point in your life you came to the conclusion that gay sex was disgusting and sex with women was not. At that point, you CHOSE to be straight. Can't simplify it any more than that.

My attraction to females came before any thought of sex even occurred to me.

...and when the thought of sex occured to you, you thought gay sex was disgusting and sex with women wasn't?

I like the idea, that maybe you had been in a weird mood one day, that maybe you would have thought gay sex is hot, and ran with that.

(01-25-2015 12:13 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 09:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I didn't have to choose to be straight, I just was.

You chose to be straight, saying otherwise makes you a liar.

you chose to be straight? I bet it was a really tough choice...



this place is comedy gold...

Biologically, I had no choice. I was turned on by one sex and I was not turned on by the other sex. The decision was made for me.

I don't want to argue about this. The subject bores me.
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I can understand you being bored with the subject so why are you in this thread?


Personally, I don't hate gays. I know that what they're doing is wrong (sinful) but I leave that to God to judge. But one thing I really, really despise is those gays that overdo the mannerisms. For instance, there's this kid on the Miners Golddigging dance team that goes way beyond anything (mannerisms) the girls do. I heard him screeching one day on my way to a fb game and I sincerely thought it was a girl and then I saw it was him. It turned my stomach. Stop it for pete's sake, we get that you want people to realize that you're gay but don't overdo it. It's not hard to show people that you're gay just don't overdo the mannerisms.

(01-25-2015 03:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Biologically, I had no choice. I was turned on by one sex and I was not turned on by the other sex. The decision was made for me.

I don't want to argue about this. The subject bores me.

I can understand you being bored with the subject so why are you in this thread?


Personally, I don't hate gays. I know that what they're doing is wrong (sinful) but I leave that to God to judge. But one thing I really, really despise is those gays that overdo the mannerisms. For instance, there's this kid on the Miners Golddigging dance team that goes way beyond anything (mannerisms) the girls do. I heard him screeching one day on my way to a fb game and I sincerely thought it was a girl and then I saw it was him. It turned my stomach. Stop it for pete's sake, we get that you want people to realize that you're gay but don't overdo it. It's not hard to show people that you're gay just don't overdo the mannerisms.
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i had a long talk with a gay coworker of my wife's at a wedding recently. he hates the rainbow, gay parades, leather bars.... but loves cher. he just wants gay people to buy in to regular society and anything else just gives gay folk a bad name. you can be an outsider and still assimilate, essentially

(01-25-2015 01:18 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I don't remember ever choosing to like girls. I just always did.

But you can chose to grab a tube of KY and head to the airport, you just chose not to. Or so you say.

(01-25-2015 02:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 01:11 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Grown men who have been straight all their lives do exercise the option to have gay sex all the time. Prison holds a lot of these men.

...but...many of them do not see it as a homosexual act. Like Ricardo Montalban. He claimed that being a pitcher was not gay.

Got a guy works for me some. Likes to tell everyone how another guy offered to blow him and he let him. Everyone has the same reaction. That's gay. Pisses him off. He starts arguing how he's secure in his sexuality and he's not gay. Again, everyone tells him to not have gay sex then. I tell him just to stfu and stop telling everyone.

I don't know how you weren't encountering any gays in the '60. I certainly was all through the '70. Fckers were aways wanting to suck this young boy off. My response was always no. Because, well, that's gay.

Sorry Ricardo but if you aren't gay, then don't be having gay sex.

If Icebox isn't queer, than it's a choice.

(01-25-2015 04:19 PM)Lush Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 03:28 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Biologically, I had no choice. I was turned on by one sex and I was not turned on by the other sex. The decision was made for me.

I don't want to argue about this. The subject bores me.

I can understand you being bored with the subject so why are you in this thread?


Personally, I don't hate gays. I know that what they're doing is wrong (sinful) but I leave that to God to judge. But one thing I really, really despise is those gays that overdo the mannerisms. For instance, there's this kid on the Miners Golddigging dance team that goes way beyond anything (mannerisms) the girls do. I heard him screeching one day on my way to a fb game and I sincerely thought it was a girl and then I saw it was him. It turned my stomach. Stop it for pete's sake, we get that you want people to realize that you're gay but don't overdo it. It's not hard to show people that you're gay just don't overdo the mannerisms.

i had a long talk with a gay coworker of my wife's at a wedding recently. he hates the rainbow, gay parades, leather bars.... but loves cher. he just wants gay people to buy in to regular society and anything else just gives gay folk a bad name. you can be an outsider and still assimilate, essentially
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That Screeching is actually a Mating Call.

(01-25-2015 11:13 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 02:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-25-2015 01:11 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Grown men who have been straight all their lives do exercise the option to have gay sex all the time. Prison holds a lot of these men.

...but...many of them do not see it as a homosexual act. Like Ricardo Montalban. He claimed that being a pitcher was not gay.

Got a guy works for me some. Likes to tell everyone how another guy offered to blow him and he let him. Everyone has the same reaction. That's gay. Pisses him off. He starts arguing how he's secure in his sexuality and he's not gay. Again, everyone tells him to not have gay sex then. I tell him just to stfu and stop telling everyone.

I don't know how you weren't encountering any gays in the '60. I certainly was all through the '70. Fckers were aways wanting to suck this young boy off. My response was always no. Because, well, that's gay.

Sorry Ricardo but if you aren't gay, then don't be having gay sex.

There was an entire documentary about this issue..both..male and female inmates that consider the truly gay inmates as the opposite sex and don't consider sex with them as homosexual. Looked crazy to me ..but..what do I know.

I grew un in small town. I am sure there were gays in our midst..but..they kept it in the closet. This just was never an issue with me.

Always look to Mother Jones to see where the agenda is going. As predicted, after the kids.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015...y-marriage

(01-24-2015 03:25 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Even while gays argue it's not a choice, they are out trying to convert young boys.

Oh for the love of God shut the **** up. You're a ******* moron.

(01-24-2015 02:49 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Of course it's a choice. Men and women were created with distinct genders and body parts to procreate and diversify the gene pool for survival of the species. Homosexual behavior does nothing to advance this natural law. I don't believe anyone is born "naturally" gay no more than someone is born for porn addiction. The changing of societal norms and values and the growing acceptance of homosexual lifestyles is making the choice for that behavior much easier and much more prevalent.

It's a choice to ACT on it - although sexual inclinations are not something you can make up. If that was the case, you could will yourself into being gay - but you can't do it, can you?

Homosexuality exists elsewhere in nature as a deviation from the norm. It's the same way in the human species.

You were born naturally straight - which is the standard option that exists in the human race. Not everyone is naturally straight, however - and also keep in mind there are numerous people in normal relationships that are sexually attracted to men. These people choose not to act on these feelings due to society/family/whatever.

(01-26-2015 11:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 03:25 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Even while gays argue it's not a choice, they are out trying to convert young boys.

Oh for the love of God shut the **** up. You're a ******* moron.

You mean they're not? Are you implying that people can't be indoctrinated into homosexuality? If so, what proof do you have?

Personally, I think Paul makes a great point and your only rebuttal is an insult.

"Converting young boys". That's molestation, and that's a crime whether you're gay or straight. Psychologically damaging a child is not making them gay.

Can we separate criminal activity and gay sex for the purposes of this discussion?

(01-26-2015 12:21 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  "Converting young boys". That's molestation, and that's a crime whether you're gay or straight. Psychologically damaging a child is not making them gay.

Can we separate criminal activity and gay sex for the purposes of this discussion?

To some people here, they probably think they could be one in the same.

(01-26-2015 12:21 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:21 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  "Converting young boys". That's molestation, and that's a crime whether you're gay or straight. Psychologically damaging a child is not making them gay.

Can we separate criminal activity and gay sex for the purposes of this discussion?

To some people here, they probably think they could be one in the same.

Gay sex is not a criminal activity the last time I checked.

However, there are some religions that believe that gay relationships and gay people (never mind gay sex) are morally reprehensible - just as criminal activity is. Those people are entitled to their opinion and deserve to vote against gay marriage on those grounds. My disagreement with these people doesn't give me the authority to consider them wrong - we're just different. That's the beauty of political discussion. I want to hear the opposite viewpoint so that I can attempt to refute it.

(01-26-2015 12:27 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:21 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:21 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  "Converting young boys". That's molestation, and that's a crime whether you're gay or straight. Psychologically damaging a child is not making them gay.

Can we separate criminal activity and gay sex for the purposes of this discussion?

To some people here, they probably think they could be one in the same.

Gay sex is not a criminal activity the last time I checked.

However, there are some religions that believe that gay relationships and gay people (never mind gay sex) are morally reprehensible - just as criminal activity is. Those people are entitled to their opinion and deserve to vote against gay marriage on those grounds. My disagreement with these people doesn't give me the authority to consider them wrong - we're just different. That's the beauty of political discussion. I want to hear the opposite viewpoint so that I can attempt to refute it.

My point was that to some people here, gay sex should be criminal, which is why they compare the two.

(01-26-2015 12:30 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:27 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:21 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:21 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  "Converting young boys". That's molestation, and that's a crime whether you're gay or straight. Psychologically damaging a child is not making them gay.

Can we separate criminal activity and gay sex for the purposes of this discussion?

To some people here, they probably think they could be one in the same.

Gay sex is not a criminal activity the last time I checked.

However, there are some religions that believe that gay relationships and gay people (never mind gay sex) are morally reprehensible - just as criminal activity is. Those people are entitled to their opinion and deserve to vote against gay marriage on those grounds. My disagreement with these people doesn't give me the authority to consider them wrong - we're just different. That's the beauty of political discussion. I want to hear the opposite viewpoint so that I can attempt to refute it.

My point was that to some people here, gay sex should be criminal, which is why they compare the two.

I've only read moral attacks on it so far. I'll keep my eyes peeled for that exact line of thought.

(01-26-2015 12:30 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:27 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:21 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:21 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  "Converting young boys". That's molestation, and that's a crime whether you're gay or straight. Psychologically damaging a child is not making them gay.

Can we separate criminal activity and gay sex for the purposes of this discussion?

To some people here, they probably think they could be one in the same.

Gay sex is not a criminal activity the last time I checked.

However, there are some religions that believe that gay relationships and gay people (never mind gay sex) are morally reprehensible - just as criminal activity is. Those people are entitled to their opinion and deserve to vote against gay marriage on those grounds. My disagreement with these people doesn't give me the authority to consider them wrong - we're just different. That's the beauty of political discussion. I want to hear the opposite viewpoint so that I can attempt to refute it.

My point was that to some people here, gay sex should be criminal, which is why they compare the two.

I think you're just being kind. From history, we know that Paul believes that pretty much all pedophiles are gay as he continually implies it. He's really ignorant on the subject.

(01-26-2015 12:31 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:30 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:27 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:21 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 12:21 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  "Converting young boys". That's molestation, and that's a crime whether you're gay or straight. Psychologically damaging a child is not making them gay.

Can we separate criminal activity and gay sex for the purposes of this discussion?

To some people here, they probably think they could be one in the same.

Gay sex is not a criminal activity the last time I checked.

However, there are some religions that believe that gay relationships and gay people (never mind gay sex) are morally reprehensible - just as criminal activity is. Those people are entitled to their opinion and deserve to vote against gay marriage on those grounds. My disagreement with these people doesn't give me the authority to consider them wrong - we're just different. That's the beauty of political discussion. I want to hear the opposite viewpoint so that I can attempt to refute it.

My point was that to some people here, gay sex should be criminal, which is why they compare the two.

I've only read moral attacks on it so far. I'll keep my eyes peeled for that exact line of thought.

You have a lot of threads from the Spin Room to go check, I'm sure you will find it somewhere.