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RE: 2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
(11-25-2014 12:45 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:34 PM)4bidn Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:30 PM)Dukie95 Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:09 PM)4bidn Wrote:  I dont understand what makes you so sure that it will be a blowout type of game and not a nip and tuck type afare (say 7-10 pts)

44.7 PPG over our last 7.

Against 3 ranked teams (including Albany who WAS ranked at the time)

Also includes 31 on Stony Brook that had the top defense in all FCS going into the game.

in that case, using that logic I should be saying that you guys wont score, CCU #1 team in country scoring over 40 and they put up 14. Your logic is skewed and dumb, but hey there are homers on both sides.
Your defense gives up on AVG more than we do, so again, i don't get it. But ok, if you want i guess i'll be your huckleberry

FYI..my prediction was just win dont care by how much or how

Should we use the transitive property to predict the score based on our results against Richmond?

I like that idea.....what was the score of the LU-Richmond game?? Keep in mind Richmond was the 4th place CAA team.
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RE: 2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
(11-25-2014 12:47 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:45 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:34 PM)4bidn Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:30 PM)Dukie95 Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:09 PM)4bidn Wrote:  I dont understand what makes you so sure that it will be a blowout type of game and not a nip and tuck type afare (say 7-10 pts)

44.7 PPG over our last 7.

Against 3 ranked teams (including Albany who WAS ranked at the time)

Also includes 31 on Stony Brook that had the top defense in all FCS going into the game.

in that case, using that logic I should be saying that you guys wont score, CCU #1 team in country scoring over 40 and they put up 14. Your logic is skewed and dumb, but hey there are homers on both sides.
Your defense gives up on AVG more than we do, so again, i don't get it. But ok, if you want i guess i'll be your huckleberry

FYI..my prediction was just win dont care by how much or how

Should we use the transitive property to predict the score based on our results against Richmond?

I like that idea.....what was the score of the LU-Richmond game?? Keep in mind Richmond was the 4th place CAA team.

Liberty lost that game 46-39 in double OT. I happen to have excel open in front of me, but I don't even need it. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they "tied" Richmond.

Newsflash, we squished the ticks by 5 TDs.
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RE: 2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
(11-25-2014 12:53 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:47 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:45 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:34 PM)4bidn Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:30 PM)Dukie95 Wrote:  44.7 PPG over our last 7.

Against 3 ranked teams (including Albany who WAS ranked at the time)

Also includes 31 on Stony Brook that had the top defense in all FCS going into the game.

in that case, using that logic I should be saying that you guys wont score, CCU #1 team in country scoring over 40 and they put up 14. Your logic is skewed and dumb, but hey there are homers on both sides.
Your defense gives up on AVG more than we do, so again, i don't get it. But ok, if you want i guess i'll be your huckleberry

FYI..my prediction was just win dont care by how much or how

Should we use the transitive property to predict the score based on our results against Richmond?

I like that idea.....what was the score of the LU-Richmond game?? Keep in mind Richmond was the 4th place CAA team.

Liberty lost that game 46-39 in double OT. I happen to have excel open in front of me, but I don't even need it. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they "tied" Richmond.

Newsflash, we squished the ticks by 5 TDs.

Yeah thanks for the reminder --- I thought it was something like that....was that game in Richmond or Falwell-ville?
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RE: 2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
(11-25-2014 12:56 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:53 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:47 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:45 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:34 PM)4bidn Wrote:  in that case, using that logic I should be saying that you guys wont score, CCU #1 team in country scoring over 40 and they put up 14. Your logic is skewed and dumb, but hey there are homers on both sides.
Your defense gives up on AVG more than we do, so again, i don't get it. But ok, if you want i guess i'll be your huckleberry

FYI..my prediction was just win dont care by how much or how

Should we use the transitive property to predict the score based on our results against Richmond?

I like that idea.....what was the score of the LU-Richmond game?? Keep in mind Richmond was the 4th place CAA team.

Liberty lost that game 46-39 in double OT. I happen to have excel open in front of me, but I don't even need it. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they "tied" Richmond.

Newsflash, we squished the ticks by 5 TDs.

Yeah thanks for the reminder --- I thought it was something like that....was that game in Richmond or Falwell-ville?

That game just happened to be a road game for the spatters.
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RE: 2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
(11-25-2014 12:58 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:56 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:53 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:47 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:45 PM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  Should we use the transitive property to predict the score based on our results against Richmond?

I like that idea.....what was the score of the LU-Richmond game?? Keep in mind Richmond was the 4th place CAA team.

Liberty lost that game 46-39 in double OT. I happen to have excel open in front of me, but I don't even need it. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they "tied" Richmond.

Newsflash, we squished the ticks by 5 TDs.

Yeah thanks for the reminder --- I thought it was something like that....was that game in Richmond or Falwell-ville?

That game just happened to be a road game for the spatters.


Hmmmm.....I guess using Coach Gill's rationale ---- God did not want LU to win that game.

Heck Rocco/UR probably wanted to get a win against the flamers at Robbins Stadium this season too --- he already knew how to beat LU.
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2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
(11-25-2014 12:34 PM)4bidn Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:30 PM)Dukie95 Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:09 PM)4bidn Wrote:  I dont understand what makes you so sure that it will be a blowout type of game and not a nip and tuck type afare (say 7-10 pts)

44.7 PPG over our last 7.

Against 3 ranked teams (including Albany who WAS ranked at the time)

Also includes 31 on Stony Brook that had the top defense in all FCS going into the game.

in that case, using that logic I should be saying that you guys wont score, CCU #1 team in country scoring over 40 and they put up 14. Your logic is skewed and dumb, but hey there are homers on both sides.
Your defense gives up on AVG more than we do, so again, i don't get it. But ok, if you want i guess i'll be your huckleberry

FYI..my prediction was just win dont care by how much or how

You're delusional if you thought ccu was the true #1 team in the country. It was more a display of how laughably irrelevant the polls are in fact.
The very fact that they're even in the playoffs is hilarious. Richmond will steamroll them, as much as that pains me to say.
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RE: 2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
No it just proves my point that just like the polls (which were dead wrong) some of reasonings that I have heard as to why LU will get blown out, is all im saying.
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RE: 2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
maybe this will help the LU fans compare, since they keep going back to beating CCU on a last second blocked FG:

Coastal Carolina and JMU both played Elon at home this season. let's compare the score at the end of each quarter:

Coastal Carolina vs Elon:
1st Qtr: CCU 7, Elon 0
2nd Qtr: CCU 10, Elon 0
3rd Qtr: CCU 17, Elon 3
Final: CCU 31 Elon3

JMU vs Elon:
1st Qtr: JMU 17, Elon 0
2nd Qtr: JMU 45, Elon 7
3rd Qtr: JMU 59, Elon 14
Final: JMU 59, Elon 27

Pop Quiz: which score line tastes extra delicious? (hint: there is only one right answer)
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RE: 2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
(11-25-2014 10:42 AM)knucklehead Wrote:  Bonus points to those who realize it will be a close one. I'm going with 34-31 Liberty.

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(11-25-2014 12:30 PM)Dukie95 Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:09 PM)4bidn Wrote:  I dont understand what makes you so sure that it will be a blowout type of game and not a nip and tuck type afare (say 7-10 pts)

44.7 PPG over our last 7.

Against 3 ranked teams (including Albany who WAS ranked at the time)

Also includes 31 on Stony Brook that had the top defense in all FCS going into the game.

JMU scored 27 on SBU
Depends on whether or not going by Scoring Defense or Total Defense (yards). Scoring defense they were #3 heading into that game. Total Defense they were #1.
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(11-25-2014 01:32 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:30 PM)Dukie95 Wrote:  
(11-25-2014 12:09 PM)4bidn Wrote:  I dont understand what makes you so sure that it will be a blowout type of game and not a nip and tuck type afare (say 7-10 pts)

44.7 PPG over our last 7.

Against 3 ranked teams (including Albany who WAS ranked at the time)

Also includes 31 on Stony Brook that had the top defense in all FCS going into the game.

JMU scored 27 on SBU
Depends on whether or not going by Scoring Defense or Total Defense (yards). Scoring defense they were #3 heading into that game. Total Defense they were #1.

smh
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RE: 2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
To be clear, I was answering why I don't think it'll be a 10-7 type game. We just haven't played that style of game and I don't see Liberty being the type of team that's going to force a change.

But, I think both teams will score upwards of 30. Because we're so fast on offense, our D is actually on the field a lot, and we've been susceptible to big plays from a team we've otherwise been handling (see Charlotte). So, it'll be "close" in that, when the scores get that high, even a 2 TD difference is relatively "close".
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RE: 2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
I had a dream.

Liberty comes out on fire! No, I mean really! It's part of their pre-game, Liberty Flames and all.

The Libs run the opening kickoff 98 yards for a touchdown, as Withers instructs the kickoff team (minus the kicker) to stand on the sidelines and watch what can happen if we don't show up. 7-0, Libs.

We start the Dukettes as the kick return team. They return the ball to the JMU 40. Our offense starts only Vad, Abdullah, and three linemen, just to see if we can. We move the ball into Lib territory quickly, but fumble on the Lib 10, which is recovered by the Flamers.

The Libs march down the field because our DBs are laying on the turf. They don't get knocked down or anything. Withers tells them to lay down so we can see if the Libs can score against six players. It works! Amazingly it takes the Libs eight plays to score, which is understandable as there are many second-degree burn injuries on the team from their pre-game workout. 14-0, Burkaville.

Withers decides to start the Dukettes on offense for the rest of the game as punishment for the fumble. The girls do well against the Lib D, scoring a TD on the next drive, a 70-yard dance into the endzone. Seriously, they dance all the way down the field. Much celebrating in the endzone - flips, beers, Dougies, and someone appears to be grilling brats under the goalpoast.... or that could be a Liberty defender on fire. Hard to tell in the haze of a dream. 14-7, Libs.

The Dukettes unintentionally kick onside. Unintentional because they can't kick the ball ten yards. The Dukettes recover. Much flipping and somersaulting down the field, which is too much for the Lib D. They are overwhelmed. It is hard to tell in the dream if the Lib defenders are stunned by the athleticism of the Dukettes or if they are just enjoying the scenery. Fifty-two Liberty football players submit their JMU transfer applications at halftime. Tied at 14 at the half.

Halftime. The Liberty players and coaches set themselves on fire again in the locker room. They don't have to. They just like it. Their equipment manager runs out of bandages and has to borrow half a truckload from JMU.

The rest of the game is sort of hazy, as dreams are. I can tell that the Dukettes dance down the field and score quickly, like in 20 seconds, or however long it takes to somersault 80 yards. 21-14, Dawgs.

Withers instructs the entire defense to lay down on the field, just because he always wanted to do that to see what would happen. Liberty scores, but it takes nineteen plays, as the players can hardly walk due to burn injuries. Tied at 21.

The game goes back and forth for the remainder of the second half. The Dukettes represent well. The JMU defense refuses to tackle Lib ball carriers, for fear of being burned. The Flamers win on a last-second, 20-yard field goal. Jimmy Moreland is heard to say, "NO! NO! NO! I am not blocking that kick. I don't want to get close to those guys. They are spooky.... and smoking!"

Final score - Human Torches 38, Dawgs 35

In celebration, the Flames set themselves on fire in the endzone. Their fans storm the field and also set themselves on fire. The rest of the Liberty team submits their transfer applications. The Flames are loaded onto a convoy of ambulances for the ride back to Lynchburg.

So, that's my prediction. I done seen it! Epic Rage Epic Rage Epic Rage Epic Rage Epic Rage
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RE: 2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
Simulated this game several times. Here are the results to date:
FINAL SCORE -- James Madison (2015): 55 - Liberty (2015): 31

Matchup Simulation Stats

This game has been simulated 82 times.
James Madison (2015) has won 50 times (61.0%), won by > 20 pts 18 times (22.0%)
Liberty (2015) has won 32 times (39.0%), won by > 20 pts 10 times (12.2%)
The average score is James Madison (2015): 33.1 - Liberty (2015): 27.1, decided by < 5 pts 18 times (22.0%)
The game has gone into overtime 4 times (4.9%)
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I don't think he was trying to say it would be a 10-7 type game, I think he was saying he doesn't understand why some think it will be a blowout and not a 7-10 point margin. For me, I predicted 41-17 Dukes and it's because we've played so well lately I could see us being up a couple touchdowns and then pulling away late. I see us as more of a team to pull away than to get up and then let them make it closer when it's not a game like Elon where we bench everyone.
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RE: 2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
(11-25-2014 02:17 PM)bulldogg Wrote:  I had a dream.

Liberty comes out on fire! No, I mean really! It's part of their pre-game, Liberty Flames and all.

The Libs run the opening kickoff 98 yards for a touchdown, as Withers instructs the kickoff team (minus the kicker) to stand on the sidelines and watch what can happen if we don't show up. 7-0, Libs.

We start the Dukettes as the kick return team. They return the ball to the JMU 40. Our offense starts Vad, Abdullah, and three linemen, just to see if we can. We move the ball into Lib territory quickly, but fumble on the Lib 10, which is recovered by the Flamers.

The Libs march down the field because our DBs are laying on the turf. They don't get knocked down or anything. Withers tells them to lay down so we can see if the Libs can score against six players. It works! Amazingly it takes the Libs eight plays to score, which is understandable as there are many second-degree burn injuries on the team from pre-game festivities. 14-0, Burkaville.

Withers decides to start the Dukettes on offense for the rest of the game as punishment for the fumble. The girls do well against the Lib D, scoring a TD on the next drive, a 70-yard dance into the endzone. Seriously, they dance all the way down the field. Much celebrating in the endzone - flips, beers, Dougies, and someone appears to be grilling brats under the goalpoast.... or that could be a Liberty defender on fire. Hard to tell in the haze of a dream. 14-7, Libs.

The Dukettes unintentionally kick onside. Unintentional because they can't kick the ball ten yards. The Dukettes recover. Much flipping and somersaulting down the field, which is too much for the Lib D. They are overwhelmed. It is hard to tell in the dream if the Lib defenders are stunned by the athleticism of the Dukettes or if they are just enjoying the scenery. Fifty-two Liberty football players submit their JMU transfer applications at halftime. Tied at 14 at the half.

Halftime. The Liberty players and coaches set themselves on fire again in the locker room. Their equipment manager runs out of bandages and has to borrow half a truckload from JMU.

The rest of the game is sort of hazy, as dreams are. I can tell that the Dukettes dance down the field and score quickly, like in 20 seconds, or however long it takes to somersault 80 yards. 21-14, Dawgs.

Withers instructs the entire defense to lay down on the field, just because he always wanted to do that just to see what would happen. Liberty scores, but it takes nineteen plays, as the players can hardly walk due to burn injuries. Tied at 21.

The game goes back and forth for the remainder of the second half. The Dukettes represent well. The JMU defense refuses to tackle Lib ball carriers, for fear of being burned. The Flamers win on a last-second, 20-yard field goal. Jimmy Moreland is heard to say, "NO! NO! NO! I am not blocking that kick. I don't want to get close to those guys. They are spooky.... and smoking!"

Final score - Human Torches 38, Dawgs 35

In celebration, the Flames set themselves on fire in the endzone. Their fans storm the field and set themselves on fire. The rest of the Liberty team submits their transfer applications. The Flames are loaded onto a convoy of ambulances for the ride back to Lynchburg.

So, that's my prediction. I done seen it!

I'll bring the marshmallows...somebody else bring the graham crackers and chocolate bars! JMU will turn the Flames into Smores!

The Liberty "Smores"....has a nice ring to it.
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RE: 2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
Liberty fans, please chime in and let us know your predictions.
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(11-26-2014 01:22 AM)bulldogg Wrote:  Liberty fans, please chime in and let us know your predictions.

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RE: 2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
i went to their board and was curious how long it would take someone to sarcastically say something like, "we might as well not even show up." ugh.

the answer? roughly 30 posts or so. that's maybe the lamest thing anyone can possibly say.
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RE: 2014 FCS Playoffs - Game 1 Predictions: Liberty at James Madison
(11-26-2014 09:36 AM)Jay M. Youix Wrote:  i went to their board and was curious how long it would take someone to sarcastically say something like, "we might as well not even show up." ugh.

the answer? roughly 30 posts or so. that's maybe the lamest thing anyone can possibly say.

That's fine. Nothing wrong with a bye week before we face Villanova. Or they can come up and we'll still have one.

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