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Quote:WMU can finish 7-1 and not win the MAC West. Damn that missed PAT

Yep, that pretty much sums it up.

Essentially, WMU is the Colorado State of the MAC.

(11-21-2014 02:08 PM)zdsmith Wrote:  http://www.hustlebelt.com/2014/11/19/725...-one-tweet

Quote:WMU can finish 7-1 and not win the MAC West. Damn that missed PAT

We know that feeling well. The Huskies were 7-1 in both 2002 and 2004 and lost the tiebreaker to Toledo.

Toledo only had one loss a couple of the last 4 years too. Hell, Toledo only has one less now.

(11-21-2014 02:08 PM)zdsmith Wrote:  http://www.hustlebelt.com/2014/11/19/725...-one-tweet

Quote:WMU can finish 7-1 and not win the MAC West. Damn that missed PAT

Actually it makes it sound like they could have one loss just because of that missed extra point but the game would have gone to overtime and either team could have won it as well including UT.

Quote:Actually it makes it sound like they could have one loss just because of that missed extra point but the game would have gone to overtime and either team could have won it as well including UT.

It was in OT -- thanks to 2 missed 30-something yd FGs by our kicker. I think those two missed FGs -- which any semi-competent FG kicker should make at LEAST 1 of those -- is the reason it's classified as "lost the game by a PAT", even though it would have pushed it to 2nd OT.

(11-21-2014 03:06 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  

Quote:Actually it makes it sound like they could have one loss just because of that missed extra point but the game would have gone to overtime and either team could have won it as well including UT.

It was in OT -- thanks to 2 missed 30-something yd FGs by our kicker. I think those two missed FGs -- which any semi-competent FG kicker should make at LEAST 1 of those -- is the reason it's classified as "lost the game by a PAT", even though it would have pushed it to 2nd OT.

That's it Toddie! You tell that mean ocean!!

Quote:That's it Toddie! You tell that mean ocean!!

Oh I did! And cried an ocean of tears afterward!

That's why its better to be in the East. You can usually have multiple losses and still win that division. In the West, the division champion usually has one or no losses.

With our loss to CMU so early in the conference season, it essentially made it a win out situation if we wanted to go back to the MACC.

(11-21-2014 03:02 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 02:08 PM)zdsmith Wrote:  http://www.hustlebelt.com/2014/11/19/725...-one-tweet

Quote:WMU can finish 7-1 and not win the MAC West. Damn that missed PAT

Actually it makes it sound like they could have one loss just because of that missed extra point but the game would have gone to overtime and either team could have won it as well including UT.

True. What made it so tough to stomach is that Toledo only led ONCE in that game - in OT. The tied the game late in regulation - our D was really to blame for the loss. Needed a stop and couldn't get it. So it goes to OT. We won the toss and elected to play D. They scored and took their only lead. We scored and biffed on the XP.

(11-21-2014 06:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 03:02 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 02:08 PM)zdsmith Wrote:  http://www.hustlebelt.com/2014/11/19/725...-one-tweet

Quote:WMU can finish 7-1 and not win the MAC West. Damn that missed PAT

Actually it makes it sound like they could have one loss just because of that missed extra point but the game would have gone to overtime and either team could have won it as well including UT.

True. What made it so tough to stomach is that Toledo only led ONCE in that game - in OT. The tied the game late in regulation - our D was really to blame for the loss. Needed a stop and couldn't get it. So it goes to OT. We won the toss and elected to play D. They scored and took their only lead. We scored and biffed on the XP.

I'll take off the Darth Vader mask for a moment and sympathize with you on this one. One of the less-talked about aspects of NIU's second half of the season is that they've almost never played from behind since CMU. Quite true, they've usually only been ahead by 7 or 10 points, so the games have been far from won (and believe me, I could have used a 55-14 game somewhere along the line there). But, when you lead or are tied for most of the game, you're doing something right. To lose one of those ballgames is heartbreaking.

(11-22-2014 09:09 AM)cawoo22 Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 06:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 03:02 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 02:08 PM)zdsmith Wrote:  http://www.hustlebelt.com/2014/11/19/725...-one-tweet

Quote:WMU can finish 7-1 and not win the MAC West. Damn that missed PAT

Actually it makes it sound like they could have one loss just because of that missed extra point but the game would have gone to overtime and either team could have won it as well including UT.

True. What made it so tough to stomach is that Toledo only led ONCE in that game - in OT. The tied the game late in regulation - our D was really to blame for the loss. Needed a stop and couldn't get it. So it goes to OT. We won the toss and elected to play D. They scored and took their only lead. We scored and biffed on the XP.

I'll take off the Darth Vader mask for a moment and sympathize with you on this one. One of the less-talked about aspects of NIU's second half of the season is that they've almost never played from behind since CMU. Quite true, they've usually only been ahead by 7 or 10 points, so the games have been far from won (and believe me, I could have used a 55-14 game somewhere along the line there). But, when you lead or are tied for most of the game, you're doing something right. To lose one of those ballgames is heartbreaking.

NIU Buffalo 2011 - That's the game this reminds me of...Peter Fardon missed that XP with like 10 seconds left for the Bulls - Huskies were gassed on D at that point, and it saved our season

(11-22-2014 09:56 AM)baltimorehuskie Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 09:09 AM)cawoo22 Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 06:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 03:02 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 02:08 PM)zdsmith Wrote:  http://www.hustlebelt.com/2014/11/19/725...-one-tweet

Actually it makes it sound like they could have one loss just because of that missed extra point but the game would have gone to overtime and either team could have won it as well including UT.

True. What made it so tough to stomach is that Toledo only led ONCE in that game - in OT. The tied the game late in regulation - our D was really to blame for the loss. Needed a stop and couldn't get it. So it goes to OT. We won the toss and elected to play D. They scored and took their only lead. We scored and biffed on the XP.

I'll take off the Darth Vader mask for a moment and sympathize with you on this one. One of the less-talked about aspects of NIU's second half of the season is that they've almost never played from behind since CMU. Quite true, they've usually only been ahead by 7 or 10 points, so the games have been far from won (and believe me, I could have used a 55-14 game somewhere along the line there). But, when you lead or are tied for most of the game, you're doing something right. To lose one of those ballgames is heartbreaking.

NIU Buffalo 2011 - That's the game this reminds me of...Peter Fardon missed that XP with like 10 seconds left for the Bulls - Huskies were gassed on D at that point, and it saved our season

Thanks, Baltimore. So much drama in 2011, which is why I feel it's the program's greatest season. The Huskies' backs were to the wall almost every time, yet they pulled through. Of course, that Buffalo game was a little lucky.

(11-22-2014 10:06 AM)beachboy Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 09:56 AM)baltimorehuskie Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 09:09 AM)cawoo22 Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 06:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 03:02 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  Actually it makes it sound like they could have one loss just because of that missed extra point but the game would have gone to overtime and either team could have won it as well including UT.

True. What made it so tough to stomach is that Toledo only led ONCE in that game - in OT. The tied the game late in regulation - our D was really to blame for the loss. Needed a stop and couldn't get it. So it goes to OT. We won the toss and elected to play D. They scored and took their only lead. We scored and biffed on the XP.

I'll take off the Darth Vader mask for a moment and sympathize with you on this one. One of the less-talked about aspects of NIU's second half of the season is that they've almost never played from behind since CMU. Quite true, they've usually only been ahead by 7 or 10 points, so the games have been far from won (and believe me, I could have used a 55-14 game somewhere along the line there). But, when you lead or are tied for most of the game, you're doing something right. To lose one of those ballgames is heartbreaking.

NIU Buffalo 2011 - That's the game this reminds me of...Peter Fardon missed that XP with like 10 seconds left for the Bulls - Huskies were gassed on D at that point, and it saved our season

Thanks, Baltimore. So much drama in 2011, which is why I feel it's the program's greatest season. The Huskies' backs were to the wall almost every time, yet they pulled through. Of course, that Buffalo game was a little lucky.

We earned that Championship "The Hard Way" no doubt about it - safe to say that all teams that win championships have moments like that, where the chips just seem to fall their way

(11-22-2014 10:15 AM)baltimorehuskie Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 10:06 AM)beachboy Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 09:56 AM)baltimorehuskie Wrote:  

(11-22-2014 09:09 AM)cawoo22 Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 06:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  True. What made it so tough to stomach is that Toledo only led ONCE in that game - in OT. The tied the game late in regulation - our D was really to blame for the loss. Needed a stop and couldn't get it. So it goes to OT. We won the toss and elected to play D. They scored and took their only lead. We scored and biffed on the XP.

I'll take off the Darth Vader mask for a moment and sympathize with you on this one. One of the less-talked about aspects of NIU's second half of the season is that they've almost never played from behind since CMU. Quite true, they've usually only been ahead by 7 or 10 points, so the games have been far from won (and believe me, I could have used a 55-14 game somewhere along the line there). But, when you lead or are tied for most of the game, you're doing something right. To lose one of those ballgames is heartbreaking.

NIU Buffalo 2011 - That's the game this reminds me of...Peter Fardon missed that XP with like 10 seconds left for the Bulls - Huskies were gassed on D at that point, and it saved our season

Thanks, Baltimore. So much drama in 2011, which is why I feel it's the program's greatest season. The Huskies' backs were to the wall almost every time, yet they pulled through. Of course, that Buffalo game was a little lucky.

We earned that Championship "The Hard Way" no doubt about it - safe to say that all teams that win championships have moments like that, where the chips just seem to fall their way

2014 could be like 2011; winning out after losing to CMU. Let's hope it happens.

(11-21-2014 06:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 03:02 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 02:08 PM)zdsmith Wrote:  http://www.hustlebelt.com/2014/11/19/725...-one-tweet

Quote:WMU can finish 7-1 and not win the MAC West. Damn that missed PAT

Actually it makes it sound like they could have one loss just because of that missed extra point but the game would have gone to overtime and either team could have won it as well including UT.

True. What made it so tough to stomach is that Toledo only led ONCE in that game - in OT. The tied the game late in regulation - our D was really to blame for the loss. Needed a stop and couldn't get it. So it goes to OT. We won the toss and elected to play D. They scored and took their only lead. We scored and biffed on the XP.

Back up RB Swanson ran for about 180 yds and a 9.1 yds avg/att against the Broncos. Hunt would have run all over WMU. Considering Hunt was injured, the Broncos got a huge break. Btw, UT left alot of points off the board, actually had 2 TDs called back because of penalties and a bad QB/Center exchange at the WMU goal line resulting in a turnover. Rockets never trailed by more than 7 and was either tied or down by 3 for most of the game.

WOW! western Mich really looks tough today we are going to play a near flawless game to beat them!

Let's not get carried away with how great WMU is. The CMU fumble at their own two-yard line was huge. WMU is good but beatable. Yes, NIU will need a great performance to win but we are road warriors.

(11-22-2014 09:09 AM)cawoo22 Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 06:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 03:02 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 02:08 PM)zdsmith Wrote:  http://www.hustlebelt.com/2014/11/19/725...-one-tweet

Quote:WMU can finish 7-1 and not win the MAC West. Damn that missed PAT

Actually it makes it sound like they could have one loss just because of that missed extra point but the game would have gone to overtime and either team could have won it as well including UT.

True. What made it so tough to stomach is that Toledo only led ONCE in that game - in OT. The tied the game late in regulation - our D was really to blame for the loss. Needed a stop and couldn't get it. So it goes to OT. We won the toss and elected to play D. They scored and took their only lead. We scored and biffed on the XP.

I'll take off the Darth Vader mask for a moment and sympathize with you on this one. One of the less-talked about aspects of NIU's second half of the season is that they've almost never played from behind since CMU. Quite true, they've usually only been ahead by 7 or 10 points, so the games have been far from won (and believe me, I could have used a 55-14 game somewhere along the line there). But, when you lead or are tied for most of the game, you're doing something right. To lose one of those ballgames is heartbreaking.

With the obvious exception of the Arkansas and CMU games, it seems like everytime NIU has had to have a drive this year they've gotten it. NU, Vegas, last week, to a lesser extent EMU.

(11-22-2014 11:35 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 06:22 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 03:02 PM)Stpetebeachrocketfan Wrote:  

(11-21-2014 02:08 PM)zdsmith Wrote:  http://www.hustlebelt.com/2014/11/19/725...-one-tweet

Quote:WMU can finish 7-1 and not win the MAC West. Damn that missed PAT

Actually it makes it sound like they could have one loss just because of that missed extra point but the game would have gone to overtime and either team could have won it as well including UT.

True. What made it so tough to stomach is that Toledo only led ONCE in that game - in OT. The tied the game late in regulation - our D was really to blame for the loss. Needed a stop and couldn't get it. So it goes to OT. We won the toss and elected to play D. They scored and took their only lead. We scored and biffed on the XP.

Back up RB Swanson ran for about 180 yds and a 9.1 yds avg/att against the Broncos. Hunt would have run all over WMU. Considering Hunt was injured, the Broncos got a huge break. Btw, UT left alot of points off the board, actually had 2 TDs called back because of penalties and a bad QB/Center exchange at the WMU goal line resulting in a turnover. Rockets never trailed by more than 7 and was either tied or down by 3 for most of the game.

Wait a minute now. I thought I read somewhere that UT fans never use injuries as excuses. You won the game, but would have won bigger if ....

In any case, Toledo was heavily favored, the weather sucked and they were playing against a Bronco team in their MAC opener who had won only 3 games in their last 16 under PJ. That loss convinced the young Broncos that they were not that far away from being a good team. Kind of a shame that that 1 point is all that stands between NIU - WMU being for all the marbles in the west for both teams.