(11-17-2014 04:48 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  Cajun had bad luck this year our #1 draw game against southern it rained for two days straight including all day game day. Now the last game of the season sr day and military appreciation game 80% chance of rain on game day.

And will still most likely lead the league, with a Tuesday game.

(11-16-2014 06:13 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(11-16-2014 01:11 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  

(11-16-2014 12:57 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Folks...we go through this every week.

Nearly all schools report on tickets sold...not butts in the seats. So nearly every week the figures reported will be "inaccurate", "a joke", "laughable", and "yeah right".

We all need to start accepting that every school sells season tickets to people who will not be at every game....that every school sells corporate tickets to buyers who will give away tickets to people who don't use them.

Stop trying to pretend that the reported numbers accurately match the number of heads in the stadium because they NEVER do.

It is not a measure of actual attendance.

ours are solid. In fact, often we under report.

Don't hate

Z

Of course you do. Why else would you be planning an expansion, when reported numbers aren't close to a sellout.

As for our crowd.

Ummm... The future.

looks like Southern is running a promotion to get locals to come to the last home game against ULM. A good number of tickets have been sold since that was announced. I'm hoping for 20k at that game.

Updated thru 11/20 Ark.St. at Texas St. game

Dammit! That dropped us below 20,000 average. What a waste.

Our 22 thou plus average will fall too next Saturday after Thanksgiving. We are offering all kinds of ticket deals to try to get people to the ULM game. You would think with a conference championship (or co-championship) on the line we would get a crowd but that date is just a bad day to draw fans. When we were in the FCS playoffs that Saturday after Thanksgiving we always had very low crowds.

Honestly I am hoping for 15,000.

(11-17-2014 02:39 PM)CajunByChoice Wrote:  

(11-16-2014 01:20 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-16-2014 01:11 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  

(11-16-2014 12:57 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Folks...we go through this every week.

Nearly all schools report on tickets sold...not butts in the seats. So nearly every week the figures reported will be "inaccurate", "a joke", "laughable", and "yeah right".

We all need to start accepting that every school sells season tickets to people who will not be at every game....that every school sells corporate tickets to buyers who will give away tickets to people who don't use them.

Stop trying to pretend that the reported numbers accurately match the number of heads in the stadium because they NEVER do.

It is not a measure of actual attendance.

ours are solid. In fact, often we under report.

Don't hate

Z

If you report actual attendance, awesome. But you should realize that most report tickets sold and that those are not the same thing and thus not comparable statistics.

Ul reports the actual tickets scanned.

USA only reports scanned tickets as well.

Updates thru games of 11/22

Updated thru 11/28 Navy/South Alabama game

Last 5 Sun Belt home games tomorrow.

There's some pretty solid numbers there, I think. The one head scratcher is USA... That's a pretty damn good team with a nice home schedule. Come on Mobile, go see your team!

Guess it makes what GS, AppSt & troy in the past have done in attendance with their small city population that much more interesting.

(11-29-2014 10:21 AM)rbostic218 Wrote:  Guess it makes what GS, AppSt & troy in the past have done in attendance with their small city population that much more interesting.

Its the whole 'new team' issue. We have no alumni with any memories of going to games. Traditions have to built. Lets look at brand new programs started over the last 20 years. There are exactly 8 new football programs in FBS. And unlike other schools, our attendance is real, butts in the stands attendance, not corporate bought empty seats.

Lets review the newbies

Doing well

USF - draws pretty well, but everyone would if we were hosting Miami (FL), Florida State, a bunch of ACC schools and high profile AAC teams. USF has been playing football for 10 years longer than USA. Greater Tampa Bay metro. 2.4 million. Unlike FIU/FAU, only college game in town. 47k students.

UTSA - Came out of the gate smoking. San Antonio metro 2.3 million. 28k students. Attendance has been falling recently.

ODU - Has done an excellent job. On campus stadium, lots of transplants alumni of other schools in the area. Only game in town for a metro area of 1.7 million people. 24k students.

Needs work

USA - Off campus and old stadium. Few transplant alumni in the area (except Troy). 16k students. Mobile Metro 604k.

Serious problems exist

FIU - Been around for 12 years. Have an on campus stadium. Official attendance less than USA. Actual attendance appears to be much lower than the official attendance. Metro area - 5.5 million. Students. 50k.

FAU - Been around for 13 years. Have an on campus stadium. Official attendance less than USA. Real attendance appears to be much less. Metro area - 5.5 million. Students...30k.

Ga State - We all know the issues here. 32k students. On campus stadium (basically). Metro area - 5.5 million.

Incomplete

UNCC - On campus stadium. 27k students. metro area 2.3 million.

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This wasn't going to be a quick sell in Mobile. We're trying to sell Sun Belt football to fans used to the SEC level matchups. we're playing in an old off campus stadium. USA doesn't have 30-50k students to draw from either. Nor is it located in a 2+ million metro. We have no history of football at any level. And still the team is drawing better than other teams that have been around for a long time (real attendance) and better than some of its newbie peers. And USA isn't really focusing that hard on attendance. They should be. But we are at least as good or better than Akron, Kent, Eastern Michigan, Georgia State, FIU, FAU, UMass, Western Michigan, Ball State, UAB, Tulane (last year and this year excepted), Ga State, UNLV, Idaho, NMSU,

Its a building process. But one that appears to be sustainable. And based upon real support, not corporate giveaways.

Next year, the home schedule features NC State. The new rivalries are going to take a while to interest people in Mobile.

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What we can be doing better.

1) Fix the transport problem
2) Fix the scanners
3) Work on Corporate Ticket Sales - a lot of those tickets go unused, but its still revenue and some of those seats do get filled

(11-29-2014 11:40 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Incomplete

UNCC - On campus stadium. 27k students. metro area 2.3 million.

How is it incomplete? They've finished two seasons and can't draw 10k fans (they flub numbers as bad a GaSt).

(11-29-2014 11:59 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(11-29-2014 11:40 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Incomplete

UNCC - On campus stadium. 27k students. metro area 2.3 million.

How is it incomplete? They've finished two seasons and can't draw 10k fans (they flub numbers as bad a GaSt).

And that's a really bad sign. One of the odd things that has been seen by many of the new programs is that attendance goes DOWN in years 3-5 as the newness and novelty wears off. That impact appears to take shape even as the teams step up in competition. And then there's inevitable impact of probably losing seasons as they move up (Congrats to you guys and Ga Southern for not falling into the trap that I though most of you guys would - but remember - UNCC is brand new, not a team with a long FCS pedigree)

Final Home attendance numbers

Looks like GaSt cooked the books to eek out the 15k.

If you make a bowl next year, you can thank GS for bumping that average up and keeping you eligible.

(11-29-2014 11:46 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Looks like GaSt cooked the books to eek out the 15k.

If you make a bowl next year, you can thank GS for bumping that average up and keeping you eligible.

That's funny how their average came out like that.

(11-29-2014 10:21 AM)rbostic218 Wrote:  Guess it makes what GS, AppSt & troy in the past have done in attendance with their small city population that much more interesting.

We had 5000 students there tonight. Impressive for a holiday weekend.

(11-29-2014 11:59 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(11-29-2014 11:40 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Incomplete

UNCC - On campus stadium. 27k students. metro area 2.3 million.

How is it incomplete? They've finished two seasons and can't draw 10k fans (they flub numbers as bad a GaSt).

Our numbers are printed weekly in the AJC

Now sit down

(11-30-2014 09:06 AM)panama Wrote:  

(11-29-2014 11:59 AM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(11-29-2014 11:40 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Incomplete

UNCC - On campus stadium. 27k students. metro area 2.3 million.

How is it incomplete? They've finished two seasons and can't draw 10k fans (they flub numbers as bad a GaSt).

Our numbers are printed weekly in the AJC

Now sit down

3,485 in attendance for GaSt against Tx St. Hard to justify spending tens of millions renovating Turner with numbers like that.