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Ga Southern's outisde shot
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../18633525/
1 key thing I noted in this article, and what gets brought up by some posters, is they dissed Marshall's SOS, but said NOTHING about our SOS. Now I don't mean this as a SOS debate, as we all know ours is weak. I find it interesting that out of the major articles southern has gotten mention in, nobody has said anything about the Sun Belt being weak, or our schedule being weak.
But it does lay out what needs to happen for us to get in a bowl nicely.
On a side note. I don't mean to post this article to thump my chest about GS, but merely address that for all the talk of us doing well damaging the conference image, obviously isn't the case.
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
That's because Marshall's schedule doesn't compare to Georgia Southern. You could potentially play three bowl teams OOC. (Though you'd Navy miss out)
Marshall only opponent to this point that is going bowling is Middle Tennessee. Now, they'll face UAB and Rice before the end of the year, but still. They don't compare.
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
You guys are having a great year but almost beating P5 teams is not enough to get you far in my opinion. It keeps you from being dismissed like Marshall though. For any of us to get over the hump and have a Boise State of long ago type of season we have to beat those teams AND run through the SBC undefeated.
I think you are making a compelling case so far that if there are not sufficient 6-6 teams then you should be allowed to go to a bowl. That would be a fantastic first year accomplishment.
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11-07-2014 12:15 PM |
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
(11-07-2014 12:15 PM)Crump1 Wrote: You guys are having a great year but almost beating P5 teams is not enough to get you far in my opinion. It keeps you from being dismissed like Marshall though. For any of us to get over the hump and have a Boise State of long ago type of season we have to beat those teams AND run through the SBC undefeated.
I think you are making a compelling case so far that if there are not sufficient 6-6 teams then you should be allowed to go to a bowl. That would be a fantastic first year accomplishment.
I predicted a 6-6 season. lol. So no matter what happens here on out, I'm thrilled.
It would present an interesting scenario IF things were to fall into place. If Marshall loses 1 game, I think they drop out of the top 5 in G5 ranked teams.
Unofrtunately it has just been a down year for G5 all the way around.
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
well, what I got from the article is 2 things, 1. its is going to be nearly impossible for all the "stars to align" for you to get the bid, and 2nd, Benson has made it crystal clear he will not allow GS to take a spot over existing members, he will take a 6-6, 7-5 team over a 10-2 GS. He seems to reinforce what has been debated on this board, that is GS understood the rules before they played their first game, and he is not going to challenge the NCAA ruling. Looks to me that the bottom line is the SBC isn't going to "go to bat" for GS.
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11-07-2014 12:25 PM |
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
(11-07-2014 12:25 PM)moehler Wrote: well, what I got from the article is 2 things, 1. its is going to be nearly impossible for all the "stars to align" for you to get the bid, and 2nd, Benson has made it crystal clear he will not allow GS to take a spot over existing members, he will take a 6-6, 7-5 team over a 10-2 GS. He seems to reinforce what has been debated on this board, that is GS understood the rules before they played their first game, and he is not going to challenge the NCAA ruling. Looks to me that the bottom line is the SBC isn't going to "go to bat" for GS.
He doesn't need to "go to bat" for anything. And he should allow other SB teams into SB tie in games before us if other things line up and we are eligible.
And then maybe we get really lucky and a few G5 teams in front of us fall and we get the top G5 spot. lol. but now I'm really just doing wishful thinking.. gotta get past txst first.
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
(11-07-2014 12:25 PM)moehler Wrote: well, what I got from the article is 2 things, 1. its is going to be nearly impossible for all the "stars to align" for you to get the bid, and 2nd, Benson has made it crystal clear he will not allow GS to take a spot over existing members, he will take a 6-6, 7-5 team over a 10-2 GS. He seems to reinforce what has been debated on this board, that is GS understood the rules before they played their first game, and he is not going to challenge the NCAA ruling. Looks to me that the bottom line is the SBC isn't going to "go to bat" for GS.
Benson should be pushing hard for Ga Southern to be eligible. If we win out and 3 or 4 teams lose, we could be the top G5 team. If we were the G5 rep, it would being millions to the conference and schools and be a huge boost for the SBC's reputation.
However, he did the opposite. Now people can say, "why should we allow Ga Southern to be eligible. Even their commissioner is against it."
Benson is not looking at the big picture if we win out. HUGE MISTAKE!
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
(11-07-2014 12:32 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:25 PM)moehler Wrote: well, what I got from the article is 2 things, 1. its is going to be nearly impossible for all the "stars to align" for you to get the bid, and 2nd, Benson has made it crystal clear he will not allow GS to take a spot over existing members, he will take a 6-6, 7-5 team over a 10-2 GS. He seems to reinforce what has been debated on this board, that is GS understood the rules before they played their first game, and he is not going to challenge the NCAA ruling. Looks to me that the bottom line is the SBC isn't going to "go to bat" for GS.
Benson should be pushing hard for Ga Southern to be eligible. If we win out and 3 or 4 teams lose, we could be the top G5 team. If we were the G5 rep, it would being millions to the conference and schools and be a huge boost for the SBC's reputation.
However, he did the opposite. Now people can say, "why should we allow Ga Southern to be eligible. Even their commissioner is against it."
Benson is not looking at the big picture if we win out. HUGE MISTAKE!
ok. let's say hypothetically we win out.... and we are the top g5 rated team, then I am sure he would be pushing for us to go to the bowl game. I think what he is saying in that article, is that if we were bowl eligible, he would give the SB bowl tie ins to other SB teams before us, leaving us to play in whatever other bowl invites us, which I think is how it should be.
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2014 12:34 PM by NCeagle.)
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
(11-07-2014 12:34 PM)NCeagle Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:32 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:25 PM)moehler Wrote: well, what I got from the article is 2 things, 1. its is going to be nearly impossible for all the "stars to align" for you to get the bid, and 2nd, Benson has made it crystal clear he will not allow GS to take a spot over existing members, he will take a 6-6, 7-5 team over a 10-2 GS. He seems to reinforce what has been debated on this board, that is GS understood the rules before they played their first game, and he is not going to challenge the NCAA ruling. Looks to me that the bottom line is the SBC isn't going to "go to bat" for GS.
Benson should be pushing hard for Ga Southern to be eligible. If we win out and 3 or 4 teams lose, we could be the top G5 team. If we were the G5 rep, it would being millions to the conference and schools and be a huge boost for the SBC's reputation.
However, he did the opposite. Now people can say, "why should we allow Ga Southern to be eligible. Even their commissioner is against it."
Benson is not looking at the big picture if we win out. HUGE MISTAKE!
ok. let's say hypothetically we win out.... and we are the top g5 rated team, then I am sure he would be pushing for us to go to the bowl game. I think what he is saying in that article, is that if we were bowl eligible, he would give the SB bowl tie ins to other SB teams before us, leaving us to play in whatever other bowl invites us, which I think is how it should be.
How dare you come one here with all these rational thoughts, spewing all your common sense on here for people to read. Just went I thought you couldn't go any lower.
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
I don't know how many times it needs to be said but the only way Ga. Southern goes bowling is if there are not 76 bowl eligible teams.
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
(11-07-2014 12:34 PM)NCeagle Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:32 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:25 PM)moehler Wrote: well, what I got from the article is 2 things, 1. its is going to be nearly impossible for all the "stars to align" for you to get the bid, and 2nd, Benson has made it crystal clear he will not allow GS to take a spot over existing members, he will take a 6-6, 7-5 team over a 10-2 GS. He seems to reinforce what has been debated on this board, that is GS understood the rules before they played their first game, and he is not going to challenge the NCAA ruling. Looks to me that the bottom line is the SBC isn't going to "go to bat" for GS.
Benson should be pushing hard for Ga Southern to be eligible. If we win out and 3 or 4 teams lose, we could be the top G5 team. If we were the G5 rep, it would being millions to the conference and schools and be a huge boost for the SBC's reputation.
However, he did the opposite. Now people can say, "why should we allow Ga Southern to be eligible. Even their commissioner is against it."
Benson is not looking at the big picture if we win out. HUGE MISTAKE!
ok. let's say hypothetically we win out.... and we are the top g5 rated team, then I am sure he would be pushing for us to go to the bowl game. I think what he is saying in that article, is that if we were bowl eligible, he would give the SB bowl tie ins to other SB teams before us, leaving us to play in whatever other bowl invites us, which I think is how it should be.
And right now odds are decent that St. Pete will have a vacancy. Perfect fit.
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
(11-07-2014 12:39 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: I don't know how many times it needs to be said but the only way Ga. Southern goes bowling is if there are not 76 bowl eligible teams.
I think we already covered that.
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
(11-07-2014 12:37 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:34 PM)NCeagle Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:32 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:25 PM)moehler Wrote: well, what I got from the article is 2 things, 1. its is going to be nearly impossible for all the "stars to align" for you to get the bid, and 2nd, Benson has made it crystal clear he will not allow GS to take a spot over existing members, he will take a 6-6, 7-5 team over a 10-2 GS. He seems to reinforce what has been debated on this board, that is GS understood the rules before they played their first game, and he is not going to challenge the NCAA ruling. Looks to me that the bottom line is the SBC isn't going to "go to bat" for GS.
Benson should be pushing hard for Ga Southern to be eligible. If we win out and 3 or 4 teams lose, we could be the top G5 team. If we were the G5 rep, it would being millions to the conference and schools and be a huge boost for the SBC's reputation.
However, he did the opposite. Now people can say, "why should we allow Ga Southern to be eligible. Even their commissioner is against it."
Benson is not looking at the big picture if we win out. HUGE MISTAKE!
ok. let's say hypothetically we win out.... and we are the top g5 rated team, then I am sure he would be pushing for us to go to the bowl game. I think what he is saying in that article, is that if we were bowl eligible, he would give the SB bowl tie ins to other SB teams before us, leaving us to play in whatever other bowl invites us, which I think is how it should be.
How dare you come one here with all these rational thoughts, spewing all your common sense on here for people to read. Just went I thought you couldn't go any lower.
sorry. my bad. I'll try to go back to yelling irrational rabble.
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
(11-07-2014 12:34 PM)NCeagle Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:32 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:25 PM)moehler Wrote: well, what I got from the article is 2 things, 1. its is going to be nearly impossible for all the "stars to align" for you to get the bid, and 2nd, Benson has made it crystal clear he will not allow GS to take a spot over existing members, he will take a 6-6, 7-5 team over a 10-2 GS. He seems to reinforce what has been debated on this board, that is GS understood the rules before they played their first game, and he is not going to challenge the NCAA ruling. Looks to me that the bottom line is the SBC isn't going to "go to bat" for GS.
Benson should be pushing hard for Ga Southern to be eligible. If we win out and 3 or 4 teams lose, we could be the top G5 team. If we were the G5 rep, it would being millions to the conference and schools and be a huge boost for the SBC's reputation.
However, he did the opposite. Now people can say, "why should we allow Ga Southern to be eligible. Even their commissioner is against it."
Benson is not looking at the big picture if we win out. HUGE MISTAKE!
ok. let's say hypothetically we win out.... and we are the top g5 rated team, then I am sure he would be pushing for us to go to the bowl game. I think what he is saying in that article, is that if we were bowl eligible, he would give the SB bowl tie ins to other SB teams before us, leaving us to play in whatever other bowl invites us, which I think is how it should be.
The problem is we are only eligible for the G5 access bowl if there are not enough bowls to fill. He should be pushing for us to be eligible even if the bowl slots are filled. Otherwise, the SBC could have the top G5 team, but lose out on millions of dollars and the publicity.
Not smart to come out and say GS should only be eligible if there are not enough slots to fill.
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
(11-07-2014 12:40 PM)arkstfan Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:34 PM)NCeagle Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:32 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:25 PM)moehler Wrote: well, what I got from the article is 2 things, 1. its is going to be nearly impossible for all the "stars to align" for you to get the bid, and 2nd, Benson has made it crystal clear he will not allow GS to take a spot over existing members, he will take a 6-6, 7-5 team over a 10-2 GS. He seems to reinforce what has been debated on this board, that is GS understood the rules before they played their first game, and he is not going to challenge the NCAA ruling. Looks to me that the bottom line is the SBC isn't going to "go to bat" for GS.
Benson should be pushing hard for Ga Southern to be eligible. If we win out and 3 or 4 teams lose, we could be the top G5 team. If we were the G5 rep, it would being millions to the conference and schools and be a huge boost for the SBC's reputation.
However, he did the opposite. Now people can say, "why should we allow Ga Southern to be eligible. Even their commissioner is against it."
Benson is not looking at the big picture if we win out. HUGE MISTAKE!
ok. let's say hypothetically we win out.... and we are the top g5 rated team, then I am sure he would be pushing for us to go to the bowl game. I think what he is saying in that article, is that if we were bowl eligible, he would give the SB bowl tie ins to other SB teams before us, leaving us to play in whatever other bowl invites us, which I think is how it should be.
And right now odds are decent that St. Pete will have a vacancy. Perfect fit.
Awww yea, could grab some Frenchy's and check out a bowl game. Sounds like a winner to me.
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
Did we really need another thread about this? I was trying to contain the topic to the thread already set aside for this discussion (even though it permeates several other threads).
For GS posters (and anyone else) let's refrain from starting additional threads. They could be subject to merging with the existing threads.
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
(11-07-2014 12:49 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: Did we really need another thread about this? I was trying to contain the topic to the thread already set aside for this discussion (even though it permeates several other threads).
For GS posters (and anyone else) let's refrain from starting additional threads. They could be subject to merging with the existing threads.
Just like our rushing attack, we cannot be contained.
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
(11-07-2014 12:49 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:49 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: Did we really need another thread about this? I was trying to contain the topic to the thread already set aside for this discussion (even though it permeates several other threads).
For GS posters (and anyone else) let's refrain from starting additional threads. They could be subject to merging with the existing threads.
Just like our rushing attack, we cannot be contained.
Just like NCAA transition, you don't set the rules.
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
(11-07-2014 12:53 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:49 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:49 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: Did we really need another thread about this? I was trying to contain the topic to the thread already set aside for this discussion (even though it permeates several other threads).
For GS posters (and anyone else) let's refrain from starting additional threads. They could be subject to merging with the existing threads.
Just like our rushing attack, we cannot be contained.
Just like NCAA transition, you don't set the rules.
Don't make me start a petition.
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RE: Ga Southern's outisde shot
(11-07-2014 12:54 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:53 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:49 PM)bullitt_60 Wrote: (11-07-2014 12:49 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: Did we really need another thread about this? I was trying to contain the topic to the thread already set aside for this discussion (even though it permeates several other threads).
For GS posters (and anyone else) let's refrain from starting additional threads. They could be subject to merging with the existing threads.
Just like our rushing attack, we cannot be contained.
Just like NCAA transition, you don't set the rules.
Don't make me start a petition.
Hahaha. Good one.
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