What happens if we were the top G5 team, but ineligible and each SBC team loses $0.5- 1 million in payout money? I'd hate to see that happen for all of us.

(11-07-2014 12:56 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  What happens if we were the top G5 team, but ineligible and each SBC team loses $0.5- 1 million in payout money? I'd hate to see that happen for all of us.

actually. To piggy back off of that. I know most members here are staunch opposition to the NCAA breaking the rule for us.... But what if this were the case and we got the top ranked g5 spot, but there were enough bowl eligible teams.

Would you non GS fans wants Benson to try to force the NCAA to change the rule for us, especially considering the exposure and money it would make the Belt?

I don't mean this a question as if you think it would, but would you want it to, were that the case.

(11-07-2014 12:59 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 12:56 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  What happens if we were the top G5 team, but ineligible and each SBC team loses $0.5- 1 million in payout money? I'd hate to see that happen for all of us.

actually. To piggy back off of that. I know most members here are staunch opposition to the NCAA breaking the rule for us.... But what if this were the case and we got the top ranked g5 spot, but there were enough bowl eligible teams.

Would you non GS fans wants Benson to try to force the NCAA to change the rule for us, especially considering the exposure and money it would make the Belt?

I don't mean this a question as if you think it would, but would you want it to, were that the case.

1, benson won't and can't force the NCAA to do anything
2, it's been said a million times over and over we all want GS in a bowl, just not at the expense of a current full fledge member. Now that benson has stated clearly where he stands on that front, I have no problem with what happens...as I've stated numerous times.

(11-07-2014 12:59 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 12:56 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  What happens if we were the top G5 team, but ineligible and each SBC team loses $0.5- 1 million in payout money? I'd hate to see that happen for all of us.

actually. To piggy back off of that. I know most members here are staunch opposition to the NCAA breaking the rule for us.... But what if this were the case and we got the top ranked g5 spot, but there were enough bowl eligible teams.

Would you non GS fans wants Benson to try to force the NCAA to change the rule for us, especially considering the exposure and money it would make the Belt?

I don't mean this a question as if you think it would, but would you want it to, were that the case.

Hypothetically, if this were the case, as long as you don't take a bowl spot from a SBC team I don't care. I would support GS going. But it would be for naught because if there were enough bowl eligible teams the other conferences would throw a hissy fit to keep you out.

It would suck if GaSo is the clear best and 76 or more are eligible and the Belt misses the Access Bowl.

But it would also be the biggest G5 story of the year gaining more attention than actually going.

It would be touchstone of the program history told and retold for decades to come.

Either way it breaks, it works great for GaSo.

(11-07-2014 01:02 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 12:59 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 12:56 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  What happens if we were the top G5 team, but ineligible and each SBC team loses $0.5- 1 million in payout money? I'd hate to see that happen for all of us.

actually. To piggy back off of that. I know most members here are staunch opposition to the NCAA breaking the rule for us.... But what if this were the case and we got the top ranked g5 spot, but there were enough bowl eligible teams.

Would you non GS fans wants Benson to try to force the NCAA to change the rule for us, especially considering the exposure and money it would make the Belt?

I don't mean this a question as if you think it would, but would you want it to, were that the case.

1, benson won't and can't force the NCAA to do anything
2, it's been said a million times over and over we all want GS in a bowl, just not at the expense of a current full fledge member. Now that benson has stated clearly where he stands on that front, I have no problem with what happens...as I've stated numerous times.

Benson is the SBC representative. He should advocate what is best for the conference. I don't think him saying he does not support a waiver if all bowl slots are filled is in the conference's best interest. At a minimum he could have waited a little longer to see if we move up the G5 rankings.

Plenty of media are advocating that GS should be eligible. Why can't benson at some point if it means millions of $$ for all members?

(11-07-2014 12:56 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  What happens if we were the top G5 team, but ineligible and each SBC team loses $0.5- 1 million in payout money? I'd hate to see that happen for all of us.

the NCAA cannot consider you this year for top G5 team...you're not eligible.

I don't think you'd get it either way. Its going to be hard to overcome Marshall unless La Neck beats them in the CUSA title game, and the same goes for a 1 loss MWC team.

(11-07-2014 01:14 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 01:02 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 12:59 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 12:56 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  What happens if we were the top G5 team, but ineligible and each SBC team loses $0.5- 1 million in payout money? I'd hate to see that happen for all of us.

actually. To piggy back off of that. I know most members here are staunch opposition to the NCAA breaking the rule for us.... But what if this were the case and we got the top ranked g5 spot, but there were enough bowl eligible teams.

Would you non GS fans wants Benson to try to force the NCAA to change the rule for us, especially considering the exposure and money it would make the Belt?

I don't mean this a question as if you think it would, but would you want it to, were that the case.

1, benson won't and can't force the NCAA to do anything
2, it's been said a million times over and over we all want GS in a bowl, just not at the expense of a current full fledge member. Now that benson has stated clearly where he stands on that front, I have no problem with what happens...as I've stated numerous times.

Benson is the SBC representative. He should advocate what is best for the conference. I don't think him saying he does not support a waiver if all bowl slots are filled is in the conference's best interest. At a minimum he could have waited a little longer to see if we move up the G5 rankings.

Plenty of media are advocating that GS should be eligible. Why can't benson?

Because to make such statements, he would have to admit that he feels you guys deserve a spot over other SBC teams. As commissioner, he cant make statements like that. His job is to get as many teams in bowl games as humanly possible, if that means Georgia Southern becomes eligible because we don't get 76 teams...great, but he would be crucified if he went for you to be eligible and then a Texas State didn't get into a bowl as a result.

Benson is doing what's best for the conference. As a GS fan it's hard to see that but he is.

I think a lot of GS fans are being unrealistic in their expectations of Karl Benson. Unless all Sun Belt bowl eligible teams are already accommodated, you can't reasonably expect him to advocate for a bowl for GS.

Can you imagine if TXST or USA got left out of a bowl for a second year in a row because he went out of his way to go around the transition rules that all transitioning schools have to follow? He can't win either scenario, but going around the rules to leave TXST or USA out would be worse in my opinion.

(11-07-2014 12:56 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  What happens if we were the top G5 team, but ineligible and each SBC team loses $0.5- 1 million in payout money? I'd hate to see that happen for all of us.

The CUSA championship game cost them a lot of money a while back yet they didn't say...woah, lets waive our championship game this year and hand it to USM because it will give us all some extra money.

If GS becomes eligible through lack of FBS teams....and they are judged the best bowl eligible G5 by the committee....then that's great. But potential extra cash is not a reason to change the rules.

(11-07-2014 01:22 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  Benson is doing what's best for the conference. As a GS fan it's hard to see that but he is.

And a Cajun fan giving Karl Benson a semi compliment is a rare thing these days.

(11-07-2014 01:02 PM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  1, benson won't and can't force the NCAA to do anything

To be fair, I don't think Benson can force his way out of a paper bag.

(11-07-2014 01:15 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-07-2014 12:56 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  What happens if we were the top G5 team, but ineligible and each SBC team loses $0.5- 1 million in payout money? I'd hate to see that happen for all of us.

the NCAA cannot consider you this year for top G5 team...you're not eligible.

I don't think you'd get it either way. Its going to be hard to overcome Marshall unless La Neck beats them in the CUSA title game, and the same goes for a 1 loss MWC team.

One of the national writers (can't remember who) says that the CFP told him that if there 75 or fewer eligible when the dust settles on December 6th and Georgia Southern is a champion they will go into the champions pool for Access Bowl consideration but if it is 76 or more they won't be considered.

I'm not holding my breath about the access bowl, but it doesn't seem too far out of the realm of possibility that a bunch of teams suck and we get into some bowl game. If that happens, I'm all for the other SB eligibles getting into SB connected bowls and sending us somewhere else. Everybody wins

Still plenty of ball left to play.

I'm more worried about TXST and ULM right now.

(11-07-2014 01:39 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  Still plenty of ball left to play.

I'm more worried about TXST and ULM right now.

Waste of time. You guys need to be totally focused on getting access to the access bowl.

We understand that Benson's first priority is going to fill the Belt tie in bowls with teams not in transition first.

BUT - if this comes down to a slot that no other Belt member has a shot at - Like the access Bowl if it plays out that way -

And Benson doesn't step up for Southern... Then I will lose all faith in the man and start agreeing with Cajun fans.

None of it will matter if GS loses to Tex State.

(11-07-2014 01:23 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  Can you imagine if TXST or USA got left out of a bowl for a second year in a row because he went out of his way to go around the transition rules that all transitioning schools have to follow? He can't win either scenario, but going around the rules to leave TXST or USA out would be worse in my opinion.

that's not what anybody here is saying should happen.