(06-04-2014 12:24 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 12:10 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  I don't have to go away, just feel like I have to take up for CUSA constantly....It is the off season so thankfully once the season starts we can go back to paying attention what is happening on the field instead of what the next CUSA TV Deal is going to be.....You guys can throw out all of the numbers you want about CUSA's next TV Deal that has not even begun to be negotiated yet...it will be fun to see if more realignment occurs and Ark. St. accepts and enters CUSA right off the bat, will for sure prove my point....Unlike some fans on here I am sure your admin. realizes perception will match and beat any numbers you throw out money wise and would make that leap to CUSA before another thread starts about what CUSA might lose in next TV Deal..

Oh you are free to keep posting. But you'll be better off realizing that this is not the place you are going to get what you are desperately seeking.

So now you not only see the future but a mind reader LOL

Maybe pissing you off is his goal

(06-04-2014 12:16 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 12:10 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 12:02 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 11:45 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 11:04 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  Not predicting the future. Just stating the obvious that it is easier for SBC to replace FIU, FAU, UNT with App, GaSo, TXST than CUSA to replace Houston, ECU, Tulsa with FIU, FAU, UNT.

That everyone tosses out Idaho without mentioning UAB's last ten years.

That everyone mentions never playing an FBS down without including Charlotte.

That even in basketball...WKU is not Memphis.

Some newbie CUSA fans desperately want to strut about joining the ECU/Tulane/Tulsa/SMU/UCF/Houston CUSA and those mean old people on the SBC board aren't sufficiently impressed.

No the constant talk about how much superior the Sun Belt is or will be and how the end is coming soon for CUSA gets old....WKU fans are not the ones starting the numerous threads that are attacking CUSA and a troll from ASU attacking WKU by itself..Anyone is going to respond to this regardless of what CUSA had in the past as far as programs...Has to be some jealousy for the constant talk of how closer the Sun Belt is or will be to CUSA, no other way to explain the constant talk of CUSA ever day.....Of course a member school entering a new conf. is going to take up for a new conf....

In the end the answer will lie somewhere in the middle, however I refuse to agree the remaining schools left in the Sun Belt are on a better path than CUSA schools are.....Losing teams left and right does not matter to any casual fans that are not hardcore fans like us....Perception is and will be CUSA is better than the Sun Belt, that is the truth that the remaining Sun Belt fans do not want to hear but its absolutely true and this time last season the board was on a meltdown between ark. st., usa and Cajun fans! But now a year later of course CUSA is going downhill and the SUn Belt is way on the rise now! Its ok to take up for your conference but the constant attack of CUSA members gets tiresome and annoying and its never ending....

Frankly, I have never..ever...worried about something said on the SBC message board "getting old" or tiresome or annoying to CUSA fans.

Who do you think you are to go to another conferences message board and tell them what is and is not acceptable for them to say on any subject or what their opinion should be?

We ain't here to please you.

Go away if it bothers you.

I don't have to go away, just feel like I have to take up for CUSA constantly....It is the off season so thankfully once the season starts we can go back to paying attention what is happening on the field instead of what the next CUSA TV Deal is going to be.....You guys can throw out all of the numbers you want about CUSA's next TV Deal that has not even begun to be negotiated yet...it will be fun to see if more realignment occurs and Ark. St. accepts and enters CUSA right off the bat, will for sure prove my point....Unlike some fans on here I am sure your admin. realizes perception will match and beat any numbers you throw out money wise and would make that leap to CUSA before another thread starts about what CUSA might lose in next TV Deal..

If we don't accept than UL and Texas state will so we better

Which is the problem with the league. Which allows CUSA idiots to make absurd statements that everyone would jump to be with FIU and FAU over anyone in the SBC.

Of course, in the same vein, USM, Marshall, and UAB would leap immediately to be with Temple over anyone in CUSA. lol

(06-04-2014 11:44 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 11:12 AM)Seminole Indian Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 09:25 AM)CivilEng Wrote:  Some SB fans reminds me of the Dave Chappelle Show and their "True Hollywood Stories" with Charlie Murphy. You know, that scene were Rick James gets his butt kicked yet keeps yelling "f$ck yo couch!!" Lol CUSA just cherry picked all the teams they wanted from the Sun Belt. Just recently negotiated their bowls and ended up in a much better position than the SB. Their current TV deal is worth literally 20X more than that of the SB. Yet you guys claim superiority? Makes no sense.

I cannot tell the future like some of you claim. Hence, I can only speak of the current state of both leagues.

Forgot one point, there are probably a couple of former SBC teams in the current CUSA lineup that every SBC fans would like back, and almost all the dipartites would have some who would like them back, but there is one that I would bet that no SBC fans wants back.

I'll let you and the FAU fans decide which of the Florida schools that is.

Always thought it would have been North Texas instead of FIU.

UNT helped get this thing going, and I think, MTSU and WKU would be welcomed back by most. Good schools, and should do well in the weaker CUSA in football than they would have in the SBC.

Think all the departing schools thought the illusion of separation would last a little longer than it did.

Seeing the 'left behinds', in the SBC being the best of the non-aq's, and seeing UL #1 in baseball, and knowing what the future hold when it comes to TV dollars brings out the worse in a few posters, but that is something they are going to have to get use to.

(06-03-2014 03:00 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-03-2014 02:39 PM)ASUMountaineer Wrote:  

(06-03-2014 01:21 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-03-2014 01:07 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(06-03-2014 12:38 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  No one has turned into anything. The only one spewing garbage about superiority is SBC fans. I just don't know how anyone can ignore the below numbers from last year. If having a conference full of .500 teams is your goal there is no doubt the SBC was the best conference. If you're goal is to be strong at the top then look at the numbers

As for WKU fans...don't bring us into it and I for one will not jump into that topic

You are a piece of work. I've already explained that your numbers don't even relate to the argument at hand about the narrowing of the gap between CUSA and SBC. You shouldn't be surprised when people ignore numbers that aren't even related to the topic being discussed.

Plus, you are trotting out some sort of "strong at the top" for one year argument that goes entirely against your earlier arguments about not accepting ASU and ULL's recent strength at the top over three years as indicative!!!

And that is contrary to you chastising us about judging FIU only on the last three years as well.

Stop digging.

There's way more than one argument on this thread...

below is just one of those. I think after this I will just copy and paste two message for everything.

The below and the 1 FBS win in a combined 72 games for 3 SBC members. Nothing more than those two.

You do understand the below numbers? I want to make sure because you seem to have a problem keep up.

So, CUSA has two schools that have never played a down of FBS football and two schools that have combined for 5 FBS wins over the last two years. I see your point...CUSA is clearly better when measuring the worst teams. Point to WKUYG.

Nope at this point CUSA has ONE school and that one school is head and shoulder better than one of the new SBC adds and a shoulder better than the other...going by the past two seasons.

3 team 72 games vs 1 FBS win

two team 48 games vs 5 FBS wins

Neither one is very good but that's...27% of the SBC that's had 1 FBS win over the last 72 games.

Compared to 15% of CUSA that had 5 wins over 48 games

Now if you want to go back to 72 games for those two schools...

it's 25 wins

Phenomenal. Do you work in politics?

(06-04-2014 12:24 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 12:10 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  I don't have to go away, just feel like I have to take up for CUSA constantly....It is the off season so thankfully once the season starts we can go back to paying attention what is happening on the field instead of what the next CUSA TV Deal is going to be.....You guys can throw out all of the numbers you want about CUSA's next TV Deal that has not even begun to be negotiated yet...it will be fun to see if more realignment occurs and Ark. St. accepts and enters CUSA right off the bat, will for sure prove my point....Unlike some fans on here I am sure your admin. realizes perception will match and beat any numbers you throw out money wise and would make that leap to CUSA before another thread starts about what CUSA might lose in next TV Deal..

Oh you are free to keep posting. But you'll be better off realizing that this is not the place you are going to get what you are desperately seeking.

I am not seeking anything, only taking up and responding on the constants digs at CUSA and occasional trolls attacking WKU...My life is not revolving around what other Sun Belt posters think trust me....I just respond to posts I disagree with and feel like their are a lot of hypocritical posters on here spewing off about CUSA when they know their school would accept an invite tomorrow...Just the way it is and hey its the off season!..It will be proved when Ark. St. or anyone else joins CUSA when realignment happens again..Fear of other schools and perception trumps any new TV Deals that have yet to be negotiated for CUSA and for that matter Sun Belt.....

(06-04-2014 12:27 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  WKUFan518 go read their team boards...

most of the people posting in this thread has said worse things about the SBC than we ever could. It's like they think if I post it here (team board) no one gets to see it. All the ASU fans but maybe Chief has called this conference everything under the sun. Screamed and cried..."we have to get out of this no good conference" "even if we need to go indy" that was in the last 6 to 7 months.


Chief why would anyone in Jonesboro Ark be talking about CUSA much less TV dollars? That make less sense than ASU going to their team board...screaming how bad this conference is then coming on here acting like adding two schools that's never played a down of FBS football, plus NMST and Idaho makes the conference better.

I have and that is why I call them out....I also remember last December the hissy fit they threw and also last summer.....Its ok for Arkansas St. fans to get on here and have hissy fits but not ok for WKU to take up for school and new conference....Hypocrites comes to mind now it looks like they will not be changing conference anytime soon...Meanwhile their AD is begging any conf. to look at them at this point...

(06-04-2014 12:28 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  So now you not only see the future but a mind reader LOL

Maybe pissing you off is his goal

lol...it doesn't take a mind reader to understand that the SBC message board is not where CUSA members are going to the daily reaffirmation and confirmation they are seeking.

As my A-State friends can tell you. This stuff never pisses me off and I never tire of it. I enjoy it a great deal.

(06-03-2014 02:52 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-03-2014 02:33 PM)ASUMountaineer Wrote:  

(06-03-2014 11:40 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-03-2014 08:21 AM)ASUMountaineer Wrote:  

(06-02-2014 07:51 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  The fans I know would 10x rather watch a game on TV than espn3. Believe it or not not everyone has xbox, or Netflix or the ability to connect it to the TV. And not everyone can get espn3...

I can see this as a bigger problem with the 30+ crowd than mid 20's down. But it's still not the same as pushing a button on the remote and getting a game or switching from game to game. My son has a $3500 TV and all the gadgets and with that it still seems like espn3 games have a lag when I watch them at his house.

What I like about espn3 is the ability to go back and watch a game. There's been many times when I watched a game in person I thought a lot of bad calls were made. When I watch it back a few days later or even that night...a lot of those bad calls were actually good calls.

But with Directv I still have to connect under my sons name using remote setting.

I'm 32, own a Roku, a wifi BluRay, and will soon be picking up an AppleTV. My parents (pushing 60) just got Roku, and replaced their desktop with a tablet and wireless printer. The future is here, and it's not just for younger people. Sure, the under 40 crowd will more willingly adapt to streaming the vast majority of their content, but since "cutting the cord" I don't see us ever going back to a pay-for-TV provider.

You will pay, maybe not, today, or this year...

but you will pay and in the end you'll find out you're paying more than the $56.00 a month I do for 200+ channels at Directv. Of Course 90% those channels are useless to me.

But after looking at the FREE channels you get on Roku, 90% are Religion & Spirituality and the other 10% are useless. I will stick with my $56.00 a month and watch the shows I like along with the DVR to record the games I want to. Like I said if you actually want to watch something....

even with Roku, you will end up paying for it. Do you think espn is going to give their sports away for free? Nope, not even espn3.

Cool story. I hope you're able to keep your promotion. My DirecTV bill was $105, and that was with no special packages. It was going to go up too. I am done playing the games these companies play.

You seem to know a lot about the future, while saying no one can predict the future. Please, tell me more.

Well predicting the future is easy if you think espn and others that make their money SELLING their content to cable and others is just going to let you get it for free. Actually it's not predicting anything....

common sense is all it takes.

As for Directv, you have to know how to play their game. After my 12 month discount is up my bill will go up but if the past is any indication of the future...

you can bet Directv will have lose some channels or go a few days without them while they work to make a deal. The game is to call and make them think those are your favorite channels...the main reason you have Directv.

You can take it to the bank they will offer you 3 to 6 months of pay channels for free. Or anywhere between $10 and $20 off your monthly bill for 12 months. Usually $15.00.

So your bill will go up $5 at the most for the last 12 months of your contract. Once the 24 months are up...you cancel their service. At the same time it's being taken out in your wife's name. Two years later it goes back into your name.

That's the game and you get updated equipment every two years. This is our 5th year with Directv, switching contracts every two years.

They play games...you do the same.

But like I said it's not so much predicting the future to know other than your local channels that you can get with a antenna and the Religion & Spirituality channels...

at some point the others will cost you to connect to them.

Cool. Please note, for the second time, I did not say I was getting content for free.

ESPN will go where the consumers are. The consumers are transitioning to streaming. I don't need DirecTV that badly to put forth so much effort to keep a low rate. Kudos to you, but from my end--it's not worth it. I can save money and watch the content I want. I get your point though--CUSA is the cat's a$$.

(06-04-2014 12:33 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 12:24 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 12:10 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  I don't have to go away, just feel like I have to take up for CUSA constantly....It is the off season so thankfully once the season starts we can go back to paying attention what is happening on the field instead of what the next CUSA TV Deal is going to be.....You guys can throw out all of the numbers you want about CUSA's next TV Deal that has not even begun to be negotiated yet...it will be fun to see if more realignment occurs and Ark. St. accepts and enters CUSA right off the bat, will for sure prove my point....Unlike some fans on here I am sure your admin. realizes perception will match and beat any numbers you throw out money wise and would make that leap to CUSA before another thread starts about what CUSA might lose in next TV Deal..

Oh you are free to keep posting. But you'll be better off realizing that this is not the place you are going to get what you are desperately seeking.

I am not seeking anything, only taking up and responding on the constants digs at CUSA and occasional trolls attacking WKU...My life is not revolving around what other Sun Belt posters think trust me....I just respond to posts I disagree with and feel like their are a lot of hypocritical posters on here spewing off about CUSA when they know their school would accept an invite tomorrow...Just the way it is and hey its the off season!..It will be proved when Ark. St. or anyone else joins CUSA when realignment happens again..Fear of other schools and perception trumps any new TV Deals that have yet to be negotiated for CUSA and for that matter Sun Belt.....

I believe, if you follow the link below, you won't feel the need to defend CUSA against the "constant attacks" that you "don't care about."
http://csnbbs.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=514

You're welcome!

(06-04-2014 12:27 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  WKUFan518 go read their team boards...

most of the people posting in this thread has said worse things about the SBC than we ever could. It's like they think if I post it here (team board) no one gets to see it. All the ASU fans but maybe Chief has called this conference everything under the sun. Screamed and cried..."we have to get out of this no good conference" "even if we need to go indy" that was in the last 6 to 7 months.


Chief why would anyone in Jonesboro Ark be talking about CUSA much less TV dollars? That make less sense than ASU going to their team board...screaming how bad this conference is then coming on here acting like adding two schools that's never played a down of FBS football, plus NMST and Idaho makes the conference better.

Because like it or not, one of the hot topics around is whether or not the Sun Belt is the best fit for Astate in the future, or if we should instead focus on creating another league.

The only way any of that can even be considered involves looking at TV revenue for the MAC, SBC, and CUSA and figuring out what the revenue would be like for a more geographic league.


You do realize that CUSA fans claim fairly regularly that Charlotte and ODU bring a ton to CUSA right? Neither has played a down of FBS Football themselves. The same story for UTSA until they finally played FBS football this past year.

(06-04-2014 12:34 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 12:27 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  WKUFan518 go read their team boards...

most of the people posting in this thread has said worse things about the SBC than we ever could. It's like they think if I post it here (team board) no one gets to see it. All the ASU fans but maybe Chief has called this conference everything under the sun. Screamed and cried..."we have to get out of this no good conference" "even if we need to go indy" that was in the last 6 to 7 months.


Chief why would anyone in Jonesboro Ark be talking about CUSA much less TV dollars? That make less sense than ASU going to their team board...screaming how bad this conference is then coming on here acting like adding two schools that's never played a down of FBS football, plus NMST and Idaho makes the conference better.

I have and that is why I call them out....I also remember last December the hissy fit they threw and also last summer.....Its ok for Arkansas St. fans to get on here and have hissy fits but not ok for WKU to take up for school and new conference....Hypocrites comes to mind now it looks like they will not be changing conference anytime soon...Meanwhile their AD is begging any conf. to look at them at this point...

If the situations were reversed, and WKU had proof that Karl Benson was doing everything within his power to keep WKU out of a bowl game, even throwing out the conference rule book in the process, you would have done the same thing.

stAte fans will never get over that...

(06-04-2014 12:33 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  I just respond to posts I disagree with and feel like [there] are a lot of hypocritical posters on here spewing off about CUSA when they know their school would accept an invite tomorrow.

Nope, Kent wouldn't take a CUSA invite tomorrow ... the travel would be too much of a pain.

That's why I look at the information to see what it says rather than trying to dig up information to back up what I "already know" is true, which is what you seem to do ...

... I'm actually interested in whether the available information supports the claim (made by a supporter of my MAC alma mater) that the Sunbelt has actually narrowed the gap on the CUSA as a result of the sum total of realignment moves that have been made. This whole thread started with information that seems to indicate that CUSA's media partners are not all that interested in the CUSA championship race.

The numbers WKUYG posted on records of the schools over the past two season suggests that the narrowing has actually happened ... even though seeing that fact required going to the information you presented rather than your cherry-picked filtering of the information, to filter out the year that didn't say what you wanted to say and include FCS wins as if they automatically implied FBS wins.

Indeed, since that 6-6 pile-up in the middle of the SBC 2013 conference ladder is the kind of thing that sometimes happens in FB but rarely repeats, it would be an interesting experiment to see whether CUSA homers would still want to use the cumulative distribution of "10+ / 9+ / 8+" wins from the most recent year as the only measure of how strong a conference is in FB by January of next year.

(06-04-2014 01:06 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 12:33 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  I just respond to posts I disagree with and feel like [there] are a lot of hypocritical posters on here spewing off about CUSA when they know their school would accept an invite tomorrow.

Nope, Kent wouldn't take a CUSA invite tomorrow ... the travel would be too much of a pain.

That's why I look at the information to see what it says rather than trying to dig up information to back up what I "already know" is true, which is what you seem to do ...

... I'm actually interested in whether the available information supports the claim (made by a supporter of my MAC alma mater) that the Sunbelt has actually narrowed the gap on the CUSA as a result of the sum total of realignment moves that have been made. This whole thread started with information that seems to indicate that CUSA's media partners are not all that interested in the CUSA championship race.

The numbers you posted on records of the schools over the past two season suggests that the narrowing has actually happened ... even though seeing that fact required going to the information you presented rather than your cherry-picked filtering of the information, to filter out the year that didn't say what you wanted to say and include FCS wins as if they automatically implied FBS wins.

Indeed, since that 6-6 pile-up in the middle of the SBC 2013 conference ladder is the kind of thing that sometimes happens in FB but rarely repeats, it would be an interesting experiment to see whether CUSA homers would still want to use the cumulative distribution of "10+ / 9+ / 8+" wins from the most recent year as the only measure of how strong a conference is in FB by January of next year.

Who is Kent? Response was aimed towards Ark. St. fans since they seem to be the most vocal in this thread..

I haven't posted any numbers killer...

And one more thing why the hell is an Ohio St. fan involved in this thread about the Sun Belt and CUSA?

The good thing about this is our newbie SBC fans are getting a full dose of the CUSA fan dynamic we've all come to know and love over the years.

(06-04-2014 01:23 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 01:22 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  The good thing about this is our newbie SBC fans are getting a full dose of the CUSA fan dynamic we've all come to know and love over the years.

You didn't care about CUSA until they took WKU and MTSU....

WKU has been relevant in SBC football for only a couple of years. Even as down as UNT were, they had more Sun Belt relevance than WKU. Like winning at least one SBC championship and bowl game.

(06-04-2014 01:32 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 01:23 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 01:22 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  The good thing about this is our newbie SBC fans are getting a full dose of the CUSA fan dynamic we've all come to know and love over the years.

You didn't care about CUSA until they took WKU and MTSU....

WKU has been relevant in SBC football for only a couple of years. Even as down as UNT were, they had more Sun Belt relevance than WKU. Like winning at least one SBC championship and bowl game.

Yea because we had that 1 chance out of the 3 times we were bowl eligible to win...What did Ark. St. do in their first real bowl and how long did it take you to reach your first bowl in FBS?..And actually Ark. St. should bow down to WKU, we forced you guys to fire your HC after you lost to us at home....

WKU brought more reference to this conf. because of basketball than what any Sun Belt football team has brought in the history of the conf.....You poll casual college fans across the country and I guarantee WKU will be the team they recognize more than any other program in the conf. because of our basketball success throughout the years.......This will not change until the SB gets a team ranked in Top 25 in football...Football has done nothing in the Sun Belt and in fact was made fun of and a laughing stock for the national media for how many teams from the conf. that were bowl eligible and left home without a bowl due to poor work by the conf in securing secondary agreements...

(06-04-2014 01:38 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 01:32 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 01:23 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 01:22 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  The good thing about this is our newbie SBC fans are getting a full dose of the CUSA fan dynamic we've all come to know and love over the years.

You didn't care about CUSA until they took WKU and MTSU....

WKU has been relevant in SBC football for only a couple of years. Even as down as UNT were, they had more Sun Belt relevance than WKU. Like winning at least one SBC championship and bowl game.

Yea because we had that 1 chance out of the 3 times we were bowl eligible to win...What did Ark. St. do in their first real bowl and how long did it take you to reach your first bowl in FBS?..And actually Ark. St. should bow down to WKU, we forced you guys to fire your HC after you lost to us at home....

WKU brought more reference to this conf. because of basketball than what any Sun Belt football team has brought in the history of the conf.....You poll casual college fans across the country and I guarantee WKU will be the team they recognize more than any other program in the conf. because of our basketball success throughout the years.......This will not change until the SB gets a team ranked in Top 25 in football...Football has done nothing in the Sun Belt and in fact was made fun o and a laughing stock for how many teams from the conf. was left home without a bowl due to poor work by the conf...

Basketball again. SBC basketball sucks and it sucked when WKU was in it. We had the third best basketball school in Kentucky...cool. If you ask average fans to start naming off basketball schools how far down do you get before they name Western Kentucky?

(06-04-2014 01:48 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 01:38 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 01:32 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 01:23 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 01:22 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  The good thing about this is our newbie SBC fans are getting a full dose of the CUSA fan dynamic we've all come to know and love over the years.

You didn't care about CUSA until they took WKU and MTSU....

WKU has been relevant in SBC football for only a couple of years. Even as down as UNT were, they had more Sun Belt relevance than WKU. Like winning at least one SBC championship and bowl game.

Yea because we had that 1 chance out of the 3 times we were bowl eligible to win...What did Ark. St. do in their first real bowl and how long did it take you to reach your first bowl in FBS?..And actually Ark. St. should bow down to WKU, we forced you guys to fire your HC after you lost to us at home....

WKU brought more reference to this conf. because of basketball than what any Sun Belt football team has brought in the history of the conf.....You poll casual college fans across the country and I guarantee WKU will be the team they recognize more than any other program in the conf. because of our basketball success throughout the years.......This will not change until the SB gets a team ranked in Top 25 in football...Football has done nothing in the Sun Belt and in fact was made fun o and a laughing stock for how many teams from the conf. was left home without a bowl due to poor work by the conf...

Basketball again. SBC basketball sucks and it sucked when WKU was in it. We had the third best basketball school in Kentucky...cool. If you ask average fans to start naming off basketball schools how far down do you get before they name Western Kentucky?

That was not the question....Point was because of basketball, WKU would be most recognizable name out of the Sun Belt's history over anything any team in the Sun Belt has done in football....Frankly the Sun Belt has done nothing in football to the average fan....I guess SB basketball sucked too when were making Sweet 16 runs and knocking off Big Ten teams and coming within a few points of knocking off a Final Four team to go to the Elite 8..

Yea being third in a state where the other 2 schools have multiple national championships is such a shame...And until an actual Sun Belt school wins a NCAA tournament game (besides WKU) we will be always talked about in same breath with the Sun Belt and always the asterisk as last team from Sun Belt to win 1 freaking game in tournament....We maybe waiting for a while on that one...It will take a very long time for a SB basketball program to match WKU's tournament wins we have in 10 years for the Sun Belt much less our entire history as a program....

I think the Cajuns would be the most recognizable Sun Belt name right now. Maybe WKU a few years back, but average fans are more of the "What are you doing now" types.

(06-04-2014 01:57 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 01:48 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 01:38 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 01:32 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(06-04-2014 01:23 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  You didn't care about CUSA until they took WKU and MTSU....

WKU has been relevant in SBC football for only a couple of years. Even as down as UNT were, they had more Sun Belt relevance than WKU. Like winning at least one SBC championship and bowl game.

Yea because we had that 1 chance out of the 3 times we were bowl eligible to win...What did Ark. St. do in their first real bowl and how long did it take you to reach your first bowl in FBS?..And actually Ark. St. should bow down to WKU, we forced you guys to fire your HC after you lost to us at home....

WKU brought more reference to this conf. because of basketball than what any Sun Belt football team has brought in the history of the conf.....You poll casual college fans across the country and I guarantee WKU will be the team they recognize more than any other program in the conf. because of our basketball success throughout the years.......This will not change until the SB gets a team ranked in Top 25 in football...Football has done nothing in the Sun Belt and in fact was made fun o and a laughing stock for how many teams from the conf. was left home without a bowl due to poor work by the conf...

Basketball again. SBC basketball sucks and it sucked when WKU was in it. We had the third best basketball school in Kentucky...cool. If you ask average fans to start naming off basketball schools how far down do you get before they name Western Kentucky?

That was not the question....Point was because of basketball, WKU would be most recognizable name out of the Sun Belt's history over anything any team in the Sun Belt has done in football....Frankly the Sun Belt has done nothing in football to the average fan....I guess SB basketball sucked too when were making Sweet 16 runs and knocking off Big Ten teams and coming within a few points of knocking off a Final Four team to go to the Elite 8..

Yea being third in a state where the other 2 schools have multiple national championships is such a shame...And until an actual Sun Belt school wins a NCAA tournament game (besides WKU) we will be always talked about in same breath with the Sun Belt and always the asterisk as last team from Sun Belt to win 1 freaking game in tournament....We maybe waiting for a while on that one...It will take a very long time for a SB basketball program to match WKU's tournament wins we have in 10 years for the Sun Belt much less our entire history as a program....

The most recognizable name out of the Sun Belt? Probably Troy. ULM is recognizable because of its giant killing. Of course Troy's rep has been eroding and UL and stAte have chipped into it.