Oh I don't know about that. $5-$20 bucks for one basketball game isn't that hard. For schools in smaller areas, like a Jonesboro or Statesboro, I'd buy the reason that most alums don't travel back to their Alma Mater for regular season basketball games. But I just can't imagine a game or two breaks the budget.

(02-16-2014 12:16 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Oh I don't know about that. $5-$20 bucks for one basketball game isn't that hard. For schools in smaller areas, like a Jonesboro or Statesboro, I'd buy the reason that most alums don't travel back to their Alma Mater for regular season basketball games. But I just can't imagine a game or two breaks the budget.

In lafayette tonight 4300 for the louisiana win!!!

(02-16-2014 12:40 AM)exflash Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 12:16 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Oh I don't know about that. $5-$20 bucks for one basketball game isn't that hard. For schools in smaller areas, like a Jonesboro or Statesboro, I'd buy the reason that most alums don't travel back to their Alma Mater for regular season basketball games. But I just can't imagine a game or two breaks the budget.

In lafayette tonight 4300 for the louisiana win!!!

Are you saying Louisiana traveled on the road to the East and got their butts kicked by Lafayette? Damn... we GOTTA start winning more of these out of conference matchups!!!!

(02-16-2014 05:13 AM)airtroop Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 12:40 AM)exflash Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 12:16 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Oh I don't know about that. $5-$20 bucks for one basketball game isn't that hard. For schools in smaller areas, like a Jonesboro or Statesboro, I'd buy the reason that most alums don't travel back to their Alma Mater for regular season basketball games. But I just can't imagine a game or two breaks the budget.

In lafayette tonight 4300 for the louisiana win!!!

Are you saying Louisiana traveled on the road to the East and got their butts kicked by Lafayette? Damn... we GOTTA start winning more of these out of conference matchups!!!!

Weak sauce.

(02-16-2014 08:25 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 05:13 AM)airtroop Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 12:40 AM)exflash Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 12:16 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  Oh I don't know about that. $5-$20 bucks for one basketball game isn't that hard. For schools in smaller areas, like a Jonesboro or Statesboro, I'd buy the reason that most alums don't travel back to their Alma Mater for regular season basketball games. But I just can't imagine a game or two breaks the budget.

In lafayette tonight 4300 for the louisiana win!!!

Are you saying Louisiana traveled on the road to the East and got their butts kicked by Lafayette? Damn... we GOTTA start winning more of these out of conference matchups!!!!

Weak sauce.

I was actually thinking, no sauce.

I don't watch many college basketball games on TV.

Most of the games have little to no relevance. I will watch a Big 10 or ACC football game because often that game either has bearing on the national picture or I'm watching a team trying to get bowl eligible. Most basketball games lack that sort of relevance. It matters on the last weekend of September who is in the polls or knocking on the door. Being in the polls at Christmas in basketball really doesn't matter. Syracuse has all but locked up a #1 seed the "big" clashes the rest of the way don't matter much and even if Syracuse stumbles a few times there isn't a significant difference going into the NCAA Tournament as a #2 or #3 seed vs being a #1.

Players are bigger, faster, stronger, better conditioned but aren't playing with greater skill. The number of unforced turnovers in a game is frustrating and the number of errant off-balance poor form shots is not entertaining to watch.

Officials hold a dominant position and there are so many "big personality showman" officials that I am turned off. At the AState-UALR game I was sitting about six rows off the court, the guy in front of me is yelling at a ref who is down at the free throw line. The guy isn't that loud, certainly isn't using profanity and is doing the usual jawing about the play not being a foul and call it both ways. The ref looks at him shakes his head no and as it goes on appears to get angry and looks over at a cop like he is considering tossing the guy. A few minutes later calls a foul on AState signals it to the scorer then turns up to look at the guy and nods his head. Damnedest thing I've seen. I'm not spending $20 to watch officiating.

If I can't get passionate about the game, then it's going to be hard for me to drive 2 hours one way, give up my Saturday and spend good money.

(02-16-2014 10:34 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  I don't watch many college basketball games on TV.

Most of the games have little to no relevance. I will watch a Big 10 or ACC football game because often that game either has bearing on the national picture or I'm watching a team trying to get bowl eligible. Most basketball games lack that sort of relevance. It matters on the last weekend of September who is in the polls or knocking on the door. Being in the polls at Christmas in basketball really doesn't matter. Syracuse has all but locked up a #1 seed the "big" clashes the rest of the way don't matter much and even if Syracuse stumbles a few times there isn't a significant difference going into the NCAA Tournament as a #2 or #3 seed vs being a #1.

Players are bigger, faster, stronger, better conditioned but aren't playing with greater skill. The number of unforced turnovers in a game is frustrating and the number of errant off-balance poor form shots is not entertaining to watch.

Officials hold a dominant position and there are so many "big personality showman" officials that I am turned off. At the AState-UALR game I was sitting about six rows off the court, the guy in front of me is yelling at a ref who is down at the free throw line. The guy isn't that loud, certainly isn't using profanity and is doing the usual jawing about the play not being a foul and call it both ways. The ref looks at him shakes his head no and as it goes on appears to get angry and looks over at a cop like he is considering tossing the guy. A few minutes later calls a foul on AState signals it to the scorer then turns up to look at the guy and nods his head. Damnedest thing I've seen. I'm not spending $20 to watch officiating.

If I can't get passionate about the game, then it's going to be hard for me to drive 2 hours one way, give up my Saturday and spend good money.

good crowd at uta game last night..2600+

Attendance is down across the board in the MVC this year as well. We are having one of our worst attendance years ever. Bradley has took a big drop as well. They averaged 9k for ever and now are down in 6k range or so. I know Mizzou is down in basketball attendance as well.

(02-16-2014 10:34 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  I don't watch many college basketball games on TV.

Most of the games have little to no relevance. I will watch a Big 10 or ACC football game because often that game either has bearing on the national picture or I'm watching a team trying to get bowl eligible. Most basketball games lack that sort of relevance. It matters on the last weekend of September who is in the polls or knocking on the door. Being in the polls at Christmas in basketball really doesn't matter. Syracuse has all but locked up a #1 seed the "big" clashes the rest of the way don't matter much and even if Syracuse stumbles a few times there isn't a significant difference going into the NCAA Tournament as a #2 or #3 seed vs being a #1.

Players are bigger, faster, stronger, better conditioned but aren't playing with greater skill. The number of unforced turnovers in a game is frustrating and the number of errant off-balance poor form shots is not entertaining to watch.

Officials hold a dominant position and there are so many "big personality showman" officials that I am turned off. At the AState-UALR game I was sitting about six rows off the court, the guy in front of me is yelling at a ref who is down at the free throw line. The guy isn't that loud, certainly isn't using profanity and is doing the usual jawing about the play not being a foul and call it both ways. The ref looks at him shakes his head no and as it goes on appears to get angry and looks over at a cop like he is considering tossing the guy. A few minutes later calls a foul on AState signals it to the scorer then turns up to look at the guy and nods his head. Damnedest thing I've seen. I'm not spending $20 to watch officiating.

If I can't get passionate about the game, then it's going to be hard for me to drive 2 hours one way, give up my Saturday and spend good money.

You mean $25 dollars? btw was this in section F about row G or H or I and sits at the end of the row? If so he's a loud mouth ******* and complains loudly about every foul. He even went so far as to holler after one foul...

"that's no foul. next time hit him hard enough to make sure you hurt him " You are a complete scumbag when you holler to hurt a 18 year old kid. I told him this to his face.


I've sit right in the middle of SBC fans from every school but the 3 new ones and will those also later his month and early March. ASU fans are some of the worse "grown ups" I ever seen at a game. I expect the kind of things being said in student sections. But not from 50+ year old fans. But then again I guess I should have since I was in Jonesboro.


BTW when your coach lets a player back on the team that called the program...scum, to go along with the school, coach, fans, players, as he's going off to greener pastures along with 2 other one and done...

there tends to be a disconnect with fans

(02-17-2014 01:56 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-16-2014 10:34 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  I don't watch many college basketball games on TV.

Most of the games have little to no relevance. I will watch a Big 10 or ACC football game because often that game either has bearing on the national picture or I'm watching a team trying to get bowl eligible. Most basketball games lack that sort of relevance. It matters on the last weekend of September who is in the polls or knocking on the door. Being in the polls at Christmas in basketball really doesn't matter. Syracuse has all but locked up a #1 seed the "big" clashes the rest of the way don't matter much and even if Syracuse stumbles a few times there isn't a significant difference going into the NCAA Tournament as a #2 or #3 seed vs being a #1.

Players are bigger, faster, stronger, better conditioned but aren't playing with greater skill. The number of unforced turnovers in a game is frustrating and the number of errant off-balance poor form shots is not entertaining to watch.

Officials hold a dominant position and there are so many "big personality showman" officials that I am turned off. At the AState-UALR game I was sitting about six rows off the court, the guy in front of me is yelling at a ref who is down at the free throw line. The guy isn't that loud, certainly isn't using profanity and is doing the usual jawing about the play not being a foul and call it both ways. The ref looks at him shakes his head no and as it goes on appears to get angry and looks over at a cop like he is considering tossing the guy. A few minutes later calls a foul on AState signals it to the scorer then turns up to look at the guy and nods his head. Damnedest thing I've seen. I'm not spending $20 to watch officiating.

If I can't get passionate about the game, then it's going to be hard for me to drive 2 hours one way, give up my Saturday and spend good money.

You mean $25 dollars? btw was this in section F about row G or H or I and sits at the end of the row? If so he's a loud mouth ******* and complains loudly about every foul. He even went so far as to holler after one foul...

"that's no foul. next time hit him hard enough to make sure you hurt him " You are a complete scumbag when you holler to hurt a 18 year old kid. I told him this to his face.


I've sit right in the middle of SBC fans from every school but the 3 new ones and will those also later his month and early March. ASU fans are some of the worse "grown ups" I ever seen at a game. I expect the kind of things being said in student sections. But not from 50+ year old fans. But then again I guess I should have since I was in Jonesboro.


BTW when your coach lets a player back on the team that called the program...scum, to go along with the school, coach, fans, players, as he's going off to greener pastures along with 2 other one and done...

there tends to be a disconnect with fans

ASU fans are very different than any other fan base. We're generally harder on our own players and the officials than we are on visitors.

Years of cheering for mediocre teams can do that I guess.

As for Brady...the disconnect with basketball started long before he got here, and will probably continue until a new coach comes in and breathes life into the program.

(02-16-2014 10:02 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  Attendance is down across the board in the MVC this year as well. We are having one of our worst attendance years ever. Bradley has took a big drop as well. They averaged 9k for ever and now are down in 6k range or so. I know Mizzou is down in basketball attendance as well.

How much of that is the loss of Creighton to the Big East? I'm sure it isn't the sole reason, I don't know how competitively the MVC compares to years past, but they were a big draw for most teams. The MVC was usually one of if not the top non-power conference, so I am certain there is some loss there too.

Our attendance Thursday was probably the lowest its been on the season. After a week of fans arguing on Talk shows and Social media about why they don't show up for basketball games, we got a basketball game where no one showed up.

Fans have pretty much told ASU that we either need to get better results, and start bringing better teams in to play OOC Games, or expect attendance to continue to drop.

(02-15-2014 01:39 AM)airtroop Wrote:  Basketball attendance is down everywhere (in general). Here's a recent article on the SEC begging ESPN for help boosting their MBB attendance:

SEC CRIES HEP ME, HEP ME TO ESPN IN HOPES OF BOOSTING HOOPS ATTENDANCE NUMBERS

Thought of this post just a minute ago. I normally don't watch TV, but had the local news on since it followed the Olympics. They had in game highlights of the Big 12 schools. They then posted scores of two local Big 12 teams, Baylor and Oklahoma. The next screen was UNT and UTA scores. The sports guy then said, with no graphic or other supporting info, that A&M beats Tennesee. No score, stats or location, just the outcome. Wow. I'd never thought I'd see the day where UTA or UNT were more news worthy to the local media outlets than any P5 school in Texas. The SEC is really struggling.

There has been a 10 year downward trend in men's basketball attendance in the MAC.

Miami averaged 7500 back in the late 90's. This year they are averaging 1200. That is a completely huge drop off due partially to a decline in their program.

I feel like the NCAA selection process that makes it difficult for a mid major to get an at-large has damped interest at a lot of places. When a conference like the SBC is sitting at an average of .4811 far below the threshold for an at-large a lot of fans just don't care about the conference race anymore.

A conference like the MAC used to also have a player drafted into the NBA. With the rise of drafting international players there is less spots available for domestic guys. That and they've cut the draft down to 2 rounds. Its become extremely rare for a mid major to have anyone drafted by the NBA.

Then in football you have a situation where schools in the MAC and SBC are going to a bowl game every year, keeping the season alive for fans. These leagues are producing more and higher rated NFL talent than ever before. The net result is for a lot of schools interest has flipped from basketball to football.

Ohio is averaging 6700 through 15 home games, about double in total attendance of the next best MAC school. Akron and Kent post fairly decent numbers as well. All 3 schools are relatively close to the MAC tournament in Cleveland and have combined for the last 6 automatic bids to the NCAAs. Its taken a tremendous level of success to keep attendance going at the top mid major schools, otherwise forget about it.

(02-24-2014 01:21 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  There has been a 10 year downward trend in men's basketball attendance in the MAC.

Miami averaged 7500 back in the late 90's. This year they are averaging 1200. That is a completely huge drop off due partially to a decline in their program.

I feel like the NCAA selection process that makes it difficult for a mid major to get an at-large has damped interest at a lot of places. When a conference like the SBC is sitting at an average of .4811 far below the threshold for an at-large a lot of fans just don't care about the conference race anymore.

A conference like the MAC used to also have a player drafted into the NBA. With the rise of drafting international players there is less spots available for domestic guys. That and they've cut the draft down to 2 rounds. Its become extremely rare for a mid major to have anyone drafted by the NBA.

Then in football you have a situation where schools in the MAC and SBC are going to a bowl game every year, keeping the season alive for fans. These leagues are producing more and higher rated NFL talent than ever before. The net result is for a lot of schools interest has flipped from basketball to football.

Ohio is averaging 6700 through 15 home games, about double in total attendance of the next best MAC school. Akron and Kent post fairly decent numbers as well. All 3 schools are relatively close to the MAC tournament in Cleveland and have combined for the last 6 automatic bids to the NCAAs. Its taken a tremendous level of success to keep attendance going at the top mid major schools, otherwise forget about it.

WKU has our 4500 hardcore fans who are there every game....We are not drawing the casual fans we do when we have really good teams...We had a sellout for Ole Miss mainly due to Marshall henderson and a couple of Sat. night games drew well when UK was not on and nothing else going on....UofL's success and bandwagon fans have also taken a hit for us as far as the casual fan goes...

Not sure how much changing conferences will help but I think it will help the average a little bit for basketball..Always good to get new teams at home fans are not used to seeing, that alone may have our attend. rise a little next season due to the causal fan interest..

(02-24-2014 02:43 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(02-24-2014 01:21 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  There has been a 10 year downward trend in men's basketball attendance in the MAC.

Miami averaged 7500 back in the late 90's. This year they are averaging 1200. That is a completely huge drop off due partially to a decline in their program.

I feel like the NCAA selection process that makes it difficult for a mid major to get an at-large has damped interest at a lot of places. When a conference like the SBC is sitting at an average of .4811 far below the threshold for an at-large a lot of fans just don't care about the conference race anymore.

A conference like the MAC used to also have a player drafted into the NBA. With the rise of drafting international players there is less spots available for domestic guys. That and they've cut the draft down to 2 rounds. Its become extremely rare for a mid major to have anyone drafted by the NBA.

Then in football you have a situation where schools in the MAC and SBC are going to a bowl game every year, keeping the season alive for fans. These leagues are producing more and higher rated NFL talent than ever before. The net result is for a lot of schools interest has flipped from basketball to football.

Ohio is averaging 6700 through 15 home games, about double in total attendance of the next best MAC school. Akron and Kent post fairly decent numbers as well. All 3 schools are relatively close to the MAC tournament in Cleveland and have combined for the last 6 automatic bids to the NCAAs. Its taken a tremendous level of success to keep attendance going at the top mid major schools, otherwise forget about it.

WKU has our 4500 hardcore fans who are there every game....We are not drawing the casual fans we do when we have really good teams...We had a sellout for Ole Miss mainly due to Marshall henderson and a couple of Sat. night games drew well when UK was not on and nothing else going on....UofL's success and bandwagon fans have also taken a hit for us as far as the casual fan goes...

Not sure how much changing conferences will help but I think it will help the average a little bit for basketball..Always good to get new teams at home fans are not used to seeing, that alone may have our attend. rise a little next season due to the causal fan interest..

If there are 5,000 at the game then there's only a 1,000 or so unsold tickets....

a lot of the empty seats are sold It's very surprising how many people will spend $750 to $1,000 on a season ticket and not show up. It's even more surprising that a fan would take the time to show up and at the 5 to 4 minute mark leaves every game...EVERY game, no matter what the score is. I have 4 fans sitting right in from of me ($1,040 a ticket counting the $750 donation) and they leave by the 4 minute timeout every game.

App's is TRASH but that's just because they have a trash team with a trash coach. I still plan to go to every single game next year

(02-24-2014 05:20 PM)FidelCashflow18 Wrote:  App's is TRASH but that's just because they have a trash team with a trash coach. I still plan to go to every single game next year

I like some of the players just not the coach, I think Ty tony has a good future etc.


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