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Mike Dyer ‏@MikeDyer 47m47 minutes ago

Roger Bacon WR Jordan Williams committed to #UC as a preferred walk-on. He had previously been committed to Indiana State. @RBSpartans

Answers that question if it wasn't already.

I'm sure tubs will be saying Virginia and Va tech were trying to get in on Brooks late. Plan F written all over this one.

(02-02-2016 10:20 AM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 10:13 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 08:22 AM)50Cent Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 11:03 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(01-28-2016 07:15 AM)Racinejake Wrote:  He's visiting Purdue and East Carolina. I suppose Purdue technically qualifies as P5.

Also Maryland trying to flip Perry Young and had him for a visit. This Maryland piece posted today projects him in their class.

Goodness....so essentially UC is going to have a type of class you'd get with a coaching turnover even while retaining the same underperforming head coach. Outstanding. And that credit goes to Mike Bohn who apparently is not able to see the that the light he sees at the end is the train. When you have the wrong hire you can wait it out and hope for the best or you can be proactive and cut your losses and retool. I don't know how any of us can be optimistic with the outcome of this decision. Now if you get rid of tubs next year or when his contract is up you will have more bad classes.

And is Prunty on a milk carton somewhere? That guy hasn't done much this year it seems...and probably will lose his big recruit Wallace.

Speaking of Prunty, looks like we offered 6'2 257 DT Curtis Brooks out of Danville, VA.

He has a couple offers out there, but it appears we are the biggest so far. Prunty had a vist with him the other day. He has already added the Bearcat logo to his twitter page so I would think if we want him he is ours for the taking*.


* Also I think we have taken a recruit from Danville every year under this coaching staff.

Offers from Hampton, VMI and Norfolk St. Looks like we're just trying to fill open spots at this point.

Red meat peddled for the fans who eat it up regardless but this class feels more and more like the type of class you sign a month after taking a new HC job than it does class #4.

(01-29-2016 07:46 PM)50Cent Wrote:  247 has Wallace having visited Clemson on 27th? And OSU today.

If they can somehow hold him that would be huge win.

FWIW, i think i saw on twitter that osu received a verbal from one of their DB recruits. That might help some but who knows...

UC recruiting class ranked lower

And the Enquirer chimes in telling us what we all know on here already

(02-02-2016 12:30 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 07:46 PM)50Cent Wrote:  247 has Wallace having visited Clemson on 27th? And OSU today.

If they can somehow hold him that would be huge win.

FWIW, i think i saw on twitter that osu received a verbal from one of their DB recruits. That might help some but who knows...

An article I read said that OSU is still recruiting Wallace and another DB Carlos Becker and they'd likely take one of the two. I know Wallace also visited Clemson last week so they could still be in play if OSU moves on from him. Guess we'll see where he faxes his LOI.

(02-02-2016 12:46 PM)50Cent Wrote:  UC recruiting class ranked lower

And the Enquirer chimes in telling us what we all know on here already

Isn't this article a bit premature. Who knows what we might add or lose in the next 24 hours.

(02-02-2016 12:49 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 12:46 PM)50Cent Wrote:  UC recruiting class ranked lower

And the Enquirer chimes in telling us what we all know on here already

Isn't this article a bit premature. Who knows what we might add or lose in the next 24 hours.

it is premature. i'm in wait and see mode like all the others here. i also don't get down on recruiting classes. Obviously there is some disappointment when guys leave, but i cheer for the guys that rep Cincy. Someone referenced Barwin. i think Stewart probably also applies (iirc). Some of our best players weren't highly touted recruited. i get the correlation between the stars and program success. Our reality is different at this point in time. When our reality changes, so will the expectations. Until that time, i'll cheer my alma mater all the same.

(02-02-2016 12:30 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 07:46 PM)50Cent Wrote:  247 has Wallace having visited Clemson on 27th? And OSU today.

If they can somehow hold him that would be huge win.

FWIW, i think i saw on twitter that osu received a verbal from one of their DB recruits. That might help some but who knows...

Even if OSU has room I think Clemson is his leader right now.

Mike Dyer ‏@MikeDyer 1m1 minute ago

Oak Hills WR/RB David Reddington committed to #UC as a preferred walk-on, per Oak Hills athletic department @WCPO

How many preferred walk ons do we take in a normal year? anybody know?

(01-29-2016 12:03 PM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 11:54 AM)Marcus Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 09:42 AM)50Cent Wrote:  Couple things re Wiggins. Is a former Miami Hurricane commit per 247. Also shows visit tomorrow at Lousiville. Is that still on? He had been crystal balled to UofL.

No, Louisville was a no show for their in-home visit with him earlier in the week.

Wait, like they planned a visit with him and just stood him up? Holy crap.

Kind of taking off on this, apparently the JUCO DB Davis, either didn't show or showed up late for his in home with UC coaches. It seems like every school that has recruited this kid has backed off immediately after visiting with him.

(02-02-2016 02:16 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 12:49 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 12:46 PM)50Cent Wrote:  UC recruiting class ranked lower

And the Enquirer chimes in telling us what we all know on here already

Isn't this article a bit premature. Who knows what we might add or lose in the next 24 hours.

it is premature. i'm in wait and see mode like all the others here. i also don't get down on recruiting classes. Obviously there is some disappointment when guys leave, but i cheer for the guys that rep Cincy. Someone referenced Barwin. i think Stewart probably also applies (iirc). Some of our best players weren't highly touted recruited. i get the correlation between the stars and program success. Our reality is different at this point in time. When our reality changes, so will the expectations. Until that time, i'll cheer my alma mater all the same.

Barwin and Stewart having 2 stars and being 2 of our best players in the last ten years doesnt make a program. i dont know why people get so hung up on this fact. I would trade barwin and stewart for all 3 star players in their recruiting years because chances are we might have had more barwin and stewarts. I think our prior staffs did a much better job at coaching these kids, getting them in the right position and calling plays to maximize our chances of winning.

I'm intrigued by the taylor hire... we might have something here but he has coached all of 6 games so we need to temper expectations.

I hope when we look back on the up coming season bohn didnt continue to set this program back by holding onto tubby too long and not getting an up and comer sooner.

(02-02-2016 03:02 PM)@ES Trader Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 02:16 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 12:49 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 12:46 PM)50Cent Wrote:  UC recruiting class ranked lower

And the Enquirer chimes in telling us what we all know on here already

Isn't this article a bit premature. Who knows what we might add or lose in the next 24 hours.

it is premature. i'm in wait and see mode like all the others here. i also don't get down on recruiting classes. Obviously there is some disappointment when guys leave, but i cheer for the guys that rep Cincy. Someone referenced Barwin. i think Stewart probably also applies (iirc). Some of our best players weren't highly touted recruited. i get the correlation between the stars and program success. Our reality is different at this point in time. When our reality changes, so will the expectations. Until that time, i'll cheer my alma mater all the same.

Barwin and Stewart having 2 stars and being 2 of our best players in the last ten years doesnt make a program. i dont know why people get so hung up on this fact. I would trade barwin and stewart for all 3 star players in their recruiting years because chances are we might have had more barwin and stewarts. I think our prior staffs did a much better job at coaching these kids, getting them in the right position and calling plays to maximize our chances of winning.

I'm intrigued by the taylor hire... we might have something here but he has coached all of 6 games so we need to temper expectations.

I hope when we look back on the up coming season bohn didnt continue to set this program back by holding onto tubby too long and not getting an up and comer sooner.

Barwin and Stewart are two that stand out as turning into exceptional players. i imagine that there are others, but those are the ones that come top of mind. iirc, we tend to get mostly three star players anyways. The larger point is that ours is a program that has to rely upon player development in order to succeed, regardless of whether they are 1 star or 4/5. We aren't going to recruit/field of team of former HS AAs.

(02-02-2016 03:24 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 03:02 PM)@ES Trader Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 02:16 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 12:49 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 12:46 PM)50Cent Wrote:  UC recruiting class ranked lower

And the Enquirer chimes in telling us what we all know on here already

Isn't this article a bit premature. Who knows what we might add or lose in the next 24 hours.

it is premature. i'm in wait and see mode like all the others here. i also don't get down on recruiting classes. Obviously there is some disappointment when guys leave, but i cheer for the guys that rep Cincy. Someone referenced Barwin. i think Stewart probably also applies (iirc). Some of our best players weren't highly touted recruited. i get the correlation between the stars and program success. Our reality is different at this point in time. When our reality changes, so will the expectations. Until that time, i'll cheer my alma mater all the same.

Barwin and Stewart having 2 stars and being 2 of our best players in the last ten years doesnt make a program. i dont know why people get so hung up on this fact. I would trade barwin and stewart for all 3 star players in their recruiting years because chances are we might have had more barwin and stewarts. I think our prior staffs did a much better job at coaching these kids, getting them in the right position and calling plays to maximize our chances of winning.

I'm intrigued by the taylor hire... we might have something here but he has coached all of 6 games so we need to temper expectations.

I hope when we look back on the up coming season bohn didnt continue to set this program back by holding onto tubby too long and not getting an up and comer sooner.

Barwin and Stewart are two that stand out as turning into exceptional players. i imagine that there are others, but those are the ones that come top of mind. iirc, we tend to get mostly three star players anyways. The larger point is that ours is a program that has to rely upon player development in order to succeed, regardless of whether they are 1 star or 4/5. We aren't going to recruit/field of team of former HS AAs.

I agree with this point. It's just that this staff hasn't shown that it can take lesser talent and 'coach them up' and win based on scheme. Yes, there are some examples like Mike Boone who are clearly better than their HS ranking but every team has at least one or two of those. This staff needs a decided talent advantage and we aren't getting it. There would be less angst if this staff was killing it on the field IMO.

(02-02-2016 03:24 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 03:02 PM)@ES Trader Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 02:16 PM)eroc Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 12:49 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(02-02-2016 12:46 PM)50Cent Wrote:  UC recruiting class ranked lower

And the Enquirer chimes in telling us what we all know on here already

Isn't this article a bit premature. Who knows what we might add or lose in the next 24 hours.

it is premature. i'm in wait and see mode like all the others here. i also don't get down on recruiting classes. Obviously there is some disappointment when guys leave, but i cheer for the guys that rep Cincy. Someone referenced Barwin. i think Stewart probably also applies (iirc). Some of our best players weren't highly touted recruited. i get the correlation between the stars and program success. Our reality is different at this point in time. When our reality changes, so will the expectations. Until that time, i'll cheer my alma mater all the same.

Barwin and Stewart having 2 stars and being 2 of our best players in the last ten years doesnt make a program. i dont know why people get so hung up on this fact. I would trade barwin and stewart for all 3 star players in their recruiting years because chances are we might have had more barwin and stewarts. I think our prior staffs did a much better job at coaching these kids, getting them in the right position and calling plays to maximize our chances of winning.

I'm intrigued by the taylor hire... we might have something here but he has coached all of 6 games so we need to temper expectations.

I hope when we look back on the up coming season bohn didnt continue to set this program back by holding onto tubby too long and not getting an up and comer sooner.

Barwin and Stewart are two that stand out as turning into exceptional players. i imagine that there are others, but those are the ones that come top of mind. iirc, we tend to get mostly three star players anyways. The larger point is that ours is a program that has to rely upon player development in order to succeed, regardless of whether they are 1 star or 4/5. We aren't going to recruit/field of team of former HS AAs.

Yeah, this hand-wringing over this class is silly and not just because it isn't final yet. The simple fact is that like nearly all upper G5s and lower to mid P5s, we get 3* players. We've done it for quite a few years running, we'll do it this year and we'll very likely do it for the foreseeable future as long as we are in a G5 conference anyway. Sure we'll get an occasional 4* or two depending upon the service or situation and an under the radar (e.g. juco or injured player) 2* or 0* (which means unrated; not zero rated) or two. But basically we're going to have another class full of 3* players, just like we have for probably the last decade or so, and with which we have been very successful overall.

Yeah, it'd be fun to have a highly ranked class nationally to point to, but it's just not where we are now. So I don't pay a lot of attention to that class ranking stuff, although as I understand it the primary reason our class is supposedly rated a little lower nationally than previous years is mostly because it is smaller than previous years (i.e. it is primarily an issue of quantity, not quality). If you have 18 3* players committed/signed you have 54 "points", but if you have 25 (or higher in some cases) 3* players you have 75 "points" which is a helluva lot of difference when you are talking about programs outside the powerhouses. We seem to have a few less scholarships available than previous years and also seem to be waiting on a few more commits to decide down the stretch than previous years so it's no surprise we aren't as high as previous years right now. I suspect when all the signings are finished we'll see a bump from where we are now although perhaps not as high as previous years simply due to having fewer scholarships available. And that's quite likely a good thing when you realize it's probably got a lot to do with having less attrition in the program than previous years.

http://cincinnati.247sports.com/Sport/Fo...meRecruits

Interesting if you look at our highest rated recruits since 2000 on the 247 site which included 6 - 4* recruits; we received some but not much return for the hype of the top ten rated players on the list. We built our good years on 3 star and lower rated players.

Quote:Mike Dyer ‏@MikeDyer 5h5 hours ago
Mason strong safety Jeron Besecker (6-1, 182) commits to #UC as a preferred walk-on, per Mason coach Brian Castner @WCPO @MasonCometsFB

(01-29-2016 03:09 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 02:43 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

Quote:David Furones ‏@DavidFurones90 2h2 hours ago
David Furones Retweeted ️Ron on ️
That's Cincinnati in case you don't know. Could Columbus WR Jerron Rollins be next for #Cincy after getting Wiggins? David Furones added,
️Ron on ️ @J_rollins15
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Jerron Rollins @ espn.com -> that's a pretty nice offer list, sounds like he's on his way or already here to visit. Noticed that he retweeted the Wiggins commit earlier today and that Wiggins follows him on twitter, btw.

Rollins has great hands and good leaping ability. He's 6'2 but I read on one site that his siblings are 6'6. Would not be surprised if he is at least 6'4 by the time he plays his first collegiate game.

Quote: ️Ron on ️ ‏@J_rollins15 7m7 minutes ago
Blessed ?? to announce that I'm officially a #bearcat

Good find. Rollins sounds like a real good get with a nice offer list. Looks like he could be tight with Kahlil Lewis. I may have posted this earlier, but he gets some raves in this thread from U of Miami (which is also reportedly one of his offers) fans who apparently have seen him play:

canesinsight.com

With Summers, Avery, Kamara, Gray, Mbodj, Paul, and possibly Geddis and/or Turner available next season along with the new walk-ons, we seem to have replenished the wr position nicely.