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RE: Prediction: UConn and Cincy will eventually join C7
(02-15-2013 08:53 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 06:24 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  I get it and would certainly be all for it but its probably Plan D or worse at this stage. Tulane was added to their league not the other way around. I just can't see those programs falling that far down the chain. I am obviously a MAC guy but just don't see it. Playing weeknight games to boot seems like a major long shot.

You are aware the BE has had some weeknight games for sometime right?

Yep but not Tuesday and Wednesday nights on ESPNU...
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RE: Prediction: UConn and Cincy will eventually join C7
(02-15-2013 08:15 PM)dalbc Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 06:36 PM)Xbus Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 06:19 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 01:00 PM)Xbus Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 12:51 PM)UABGrad Wrote:  Sure it is. Temple did it in the A10 (basketball and olympics) and BE (football) then later they did it in A10 (basketball and olympics ) and MAC (football). They reverted back to the A10-BE this year.

I don't see the C7 taking Cincy over XU. Why would they? X has been better than them for at least 15 years. They outdraw UC in fan support for the past 8. X has better facilities. They recruit as good or better than them and basically have surpassed UC as an overall basketball program in recent history. They only advantage UC has had over X has been conference affiliation and the tables are about to be turned on that front. Not even mentioning the institutional identity factors. Won't happen.
Also, it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that the c7 sought and received assurances/commitments to the new league from X and Butler. If UC somehow manages to wiggle their way in, it will only be in addition to, not instead of X. #Facts
Thug University Musketeers
Recruit better, we had a down 6 years and you know why. Ever been to a final four( you guys still promoting your final five, what a laugh ), UC's recruiting class is now top 25 ( we all saw your great player Semaj quit and leave the game after UC beat them down ), UC is and always will be the number one university in Cincinnati. Most people in this country still don't know what city the Mousketeers reside in. Be careful what you wish for, your recruiting isn't near good enough to compete consistently with the teams you will be competing against.
Thug University? Xavier? I mean you do recall who started all that crap and who was throwing cheap shots and stomping on a dudes neck while on the floor and then run away. I mean there is video.
I love UC apologists who blame the downturn in their program on Huggins leaving. If I recall Xavier has had to have a couple of new hires and they didn't seem to skip a beat.

That's right, there is video. I suggest you watch it again and see which X punk started it all.

Or the adult X fans and players screaming F UC eliciting the second apology from Victory Parkway for neanderthal fan behavior in a decade.

Or the X fans who tossed blue paint at UC fans and players.

Or Snowman (pesky coke habit) taking a swing at two older female UC fans in the stands.

Or the ever-so-classy post-game performance by the Gangstas and their coach.

Yep, just unzip the body bags and watch the video.

I suggest asking Flyer fans where they've been treated properly - Cintas or Fifth-Third.

Always classy over there at Gangsta U...

Yeah the UC punk who put his hands up in tu's face. The no namer who was in the game cause they were putting a 23 pt beat down on you. You would think that losing 7 out of the last 11 would wake you up . Yes you have won 4 times in 11 years
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RE: Prediction: UConn and Cincy will eventually join C7
(02-15-2013 09:05 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Edit - it's tiring to see other people speculate about my school.
01-ncaabbs

I keep looking for one -- just one! -- fan of UC or UConn to to agree with the prediction in the thread-title.

Only way it happens is if they decide to abandon FBS-level football.
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(02-15-2013 10:36 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  Tallgrass once again is twisting reality.
That and trolling are all he knows how to do.
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RE: Prediction: UConn and Cincy will eventually join C7
(02-15-2013 09:20 PM)Xbus Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 08:15 PM)dalbc Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 06:36 PM)Xbus Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 06:19 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 01:00 PM)Xbus Wrote:  I don't see the C7 taking Cincy over XU. Why would they? X has been better than them for at least 15 years. They outdraw UC in fan support for the past 8. X has better facilities. They recruit as good or better than them and basically have surpassed UC as an overall basketball program in recent history. They only advantage UC has had over X has been conference affiliation and the tables are about to be turned on that front. Not even mentioning the institutional identity factors. Won't happen.
Also, it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that the c7 sought and received assurances/commitments to the new league from X and Butler. If UC somehow manages to wiggle their way in, it will only be in addition to, not instead of X. #Facts
Thug University Musketeers
Recruit better, we had a down 6 years and you know why. Ever been to a final four( you guys still promoting your final five, what a laugh ), UC's recruiting class is now top 25 ( we all saw your great player Semaj quit and leave the game after UC beat them down ), UC is and always will be the number one university in Cincinnati. Most people in this country still don't know what city the Mousketeers reside in. Be careful what you wish for, your recruiting isn't near good enough to compete consistently with the teams you will be competing against.
Thug University? Xavier? I mean you do recall who started all that crap and who was throwing cheap shots and stomping on a dudes neck while on the floor and then run away. I mean there is video.
I love UC apologists who blame the downturn in their program on Huggins leaving. If I recall Xavier has had to have a couple of new hires and they didn't seem to skip a beat.

That's right, there is video. I suggest you watch it again and see which X punk started it all.

Or the adult X fans and players screaming F UC eliciting the second apology from Victory Parkway for neanderthal fan behavior in a decade.

Or the X fans who tossed blue paint at UC fans and players.

Or Snowman (pesky coke habit) taking a swing at two older female UC fans in the stands.

Or the ever-so-classy post-game performance by the Gangstas and their coach.

Yep, just unzip the body bags and watch the video.

I suggest asking Flyer fans where they've been treated properly - Cintas or Fifth-Third.

Always classy over there at Gangsta U...

Yeah the UC punk who put his hands up in tu's face. The no namer who was in the game cause they were putting a 23 pt beat down on you. You would think that losing 7 out of the last 11 would wake you up . Yes you have won 4 times in 11 years

That started changing this year and will continue with the players you have now and the two you have coming in next year UC will win 6 or 7 of the next 8.
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RE: Prediction: UConn and Cincy will eventually join C7
(02-15-2013 10:03 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 09:20 PM)Xbus Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 08:15 PM)dalbc Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 06:36 PM)Xbus Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 06:19 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  Thug University Musketeers
Recruit better, we had a down 6 years and you know why. Ever been to a final four( you guys still promoting your final five, what a laugh ), UC's recruiting class is now top 25 ( we all saw your great player Semaj quit and leave the game after UC beat them down ), UC is and always will be the number one university in Cincinnati. Most people in this country still don't know what city the Mousketeers reside in. Be careful what you wish for, your recruiting isn't near good enough to compete consistently with the teams you will be competing against.
Thug University? Xavier? I mean you do recall who started all that crap and who was throwing cheap shots and stomping on a dudes neck while on the floor and then run away. I mean there is video.
I love UC apologists who blame the downturn in their program on Huggins leaving. If I recall Xavier has had to have a couple of new hires and they didn't seem to skip a beat.

That's right, there is video. I suggest you watch it again and see which X punk started it all.

Or the adult X fans and players screaming F UC eliciting the second apology from Victory Parkway for neanderthal fan behavior in a decade.

Or the X fans who tossed blue paint at UC fans and players.

Or Snowman (pesky coke habit) taking a swing at two older female UC fans in the stands.

Or the ever-so-classy post-game performance by the Gangstas and their coach.

Yep, just unzip the body bags and watch the video.

I suggest asking Flyer fans where they've been treated properly - Cintas or Fifth-Third.

Always classy over there at Gangsta U...

Yeah the UC punk who put his hands up in tu's face. The no namer who was in the game cause they were putting a 23 pt beat down on you. You would think that losing 7 out of the last 11 would wake you up . Yes you have won 4 times in 11 years

That started changing this year and will continue with the players you have now and the two you have coming in next year UC will win 6 or 7 of the next 8.

UC has won 49 out of the last 80.
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RE: Prediction: UConn and Cincy will eventually join C7
(02-15-2013 09:05 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Edit - it's tiring to see other people speculate about my school.
That doesn't seem to stop you from speculating about other people's schools...
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C7 schools would love to have UConn to add to their gate receipts.
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(02-15-2013 10:34 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 10:03 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 09:20 PM)Xbus Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 08:15 PM)dalbc Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 06:36 PM)Xbus Wrote:  Thug University? Xavier? I mean you do recall who started all that crap and who was throwing cheap shots and stomping on a dudes neck while on the floor and then run away. I mean there is video.
I love UC apologists who blame the downturn in their program on Huggins leaving. If I recall Xavier has had to have a couple of new hires and they didn't seem to skip a beat.

That's right, there is video. I suggest you watch it again and see which X punk started it all.

Or the adult X fans and players screaming F UC eliciting the second apology from Victory Parkway for neanderthal fan behavior in a decade.

Or the X fans who tossed blue paint at UC fans and players.

Or Snowman (pesky coke habit) taking a swing at two older female UC fans in the stands.

Or the ever-so-classy post-game performance by the Gangstas and their coach.

Yep, just unzip the body bags and watch the video.

I suggest asking Flyer fans where they've been treated properly - Cintas or Fifth-Third.

Always classy over there at Gangsta U...

Yeah the UC punk who put his hands up in tu's face. The no namer who was in the game cause they were putting a 23 pt beat down on you. You would think that losing 7 out of the last 11 would wake you up . Yes you have won 4 times in 11 years

That started changing this year and will continue with the players you have now and the two you have coming in next year UC will win 6 or 7 of the next 8.

UC has won 49 out of the last 80.

Look X is a cute little program that has done some nice things. It's almost comical listening to X fans puff their chests because UC's former president decimated the program with the handling of the Huggs situation, leaving UC and new coach Mick Cronin with 1 scholarship player and no recruits. UC had to rebuild from nothing. Only maybe IU and Baylor know exactly what that entails. So good job X, your best run ever happened while UC's program was at one of it's lowest point because of mismanagement from the higher ups. Good job. You had a nice little run, but your place in this city and nationally is and always will be second rate.
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Makes you think what Tommy Tuberville is thinking right now. C7 and MAC will not happen if he has any say in the matter.
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(02-16-2013 02:34 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  UC had to rebuild from nothing. Only maybe IU and Baylor know exactly what that entails.
That's what Tulane did in MBB from 1989-93.
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since 1995 season- when CUSA started
Cincy- 12 NCAA spots, 3 sweet 16, 1 elite 8, 15 wins in NCAA tourney(12 vs double digit seeds)
Xavier- 13 NCAA spots, 5 seeet 16, 2 elite 8, 16 wins in NCAA tourney(9 vs double digit seeds)

looks on the floor like Xavier has done more than Cincy. Cincy has beaten 1 single digit seed since 1996(and that was last year).
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(02-17-2013 12:04 AM)sierrajip Wrote:  Makes you think what Tommy Tuberville is thinking right now. C7 and MAC will not happen if he has any say in the matter.
He might resign if it came to that.

But it's not going to come to that, so the discussion is moot.
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(02-16-2013 02:34 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 10:34 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 10:03 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 09:20 PM)Xbus Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 08:15 PM)dalbc Wrote:  That's right, there is video. I suggest you watch it again and see which X punk started it all.

Or the adult X fans and players screaming F UC eliciting the second apology from Victory Parkway for neanderthal fan behavior in a decade.

Or the X fans who tossed blue paint at UC fans and players.

Or Snowman (pesky coke habit) taking a swing at two older female UC fans in the stands.

Or the ever-so-classy post-game performance by the Gangstas and their coach.

Yep, just unzip the body bags and watch the video.

I suggest asking Flyer fans where they've been treated properly - Cintas or Fifth-Third.

Always classy over there at Gangsta U...

Yeah the UC punk who put his hands up in tu's face. The no namer who was in the game cause they were putting a 23 pt beat down on you. You would think that losing 7 out of the last 11 would wake you up . Yes you have won 4 times in 11 years

That started changing this year and will continue with the players you have now and the two you have coming in next year UC will win 6 or 7 of the next 8.

UC has won 49 out of the last 80.

Look X is a cute little program that has done some nice things. It's almost comical listening to X fans puff their chests because UC's former president decimated the program with the handling of the Huggs situation, leaving UC and new coach Mick Cronin with 1 scholarship player and no recruits. UC had to rebuild from nothing. Only maybe IU and Baylor know exactly what that entails. So good job X, your best run ever happened while UC's program was at one of it's lowest point because of mismanagement from the higher ups. Good job. You had a nice little run, but your place in this city and nationally is and always will be second rate.

UC fans are perpetually stuck in 1992.
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(02-17-2013 12:11 AM)stever20 Wrote:  since 1995 season- when CUSA started
Cincy- 12 NCAA spots, 3 sweet 16, 1 elite 8, 15 wins in NCAA tourney(12 vs double digit seeds)
Xavier- 13 NCAA spots, 5 seeet 16, 2 elite 8, 16 wins in NCAA tourney(9 vs double digit seeds)

looks on the floor like Xavier has done more than Cincy. Cincy has beaten 1 single digit seed since 1996(and that was last year).

Exactly
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(02-17-2013 12:11 AM)stever20 Wrote:  since 1995 season- when CUSA started
Cincy- 12 NCAA spots, 3 sweet 16, 1 elite 8, 15 wins in NCAA tourney(12 vs double digit seeds)
Xavier- 13 NCAA spots, 5 seeet 16, 2 elite 8, 16 wins in NCAA tourney(9 vs double digit seeds)

looks on the floor like Xavier has done more than Cincy. Cincy has beaten 1 single digit seed since 1996(and that was last year).

Nice to Cherry pick 1995, go back 20 years and the numbers skew the other way.

And again UC had a stretch where the administration decimated the program to recover from, which as IU fans know, takes time.

X has had a nice run, that largely coincided with the few years UC's administration put the program in the dumpster. X has a solid program, but is nowhere near UC's program in terms of national relevance. X is a solid second banana for the city, however, so good for them.
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(02-17-2013 12:11 AM)stever20 Wrote:  since 1995 season- when CUSA started
Cincy- 12 NCAA spots, 3 sweet 16, 1 elite 8, 15 wins in NCAA tourney(12 vs double digit seeds)
Xavier- 13 NCAA spots, 5 seeet 16, 2 elite 8, 16 wins in NCAA tourney(9 vs double digit seeds)

looks on the floor like Xavier has done more than Cincy. Cincy has beaten 1 single digit seed since 1996(and that was last year).

In 2000, UC had the number one team in the nation for most of the year and were the odds on favorite to win it all, until Kenyon Martin, consensus POY went down.
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(02-17-2013 01:42 AM)Xbus Wrote:  
(02-16-2013 02:34 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 10:34 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 10:03 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  
(02-15-2013 09:20 PM)Xbus Wrote:  Yeah the UC punk who put his hands up in tu's face. The no namer who was in the game cause they were putting a 23 pt beat down on you. You would think that losing 7 out of the last 11 would wake you up . Yes you have won 4 times in 11 years

That started changing this year and will continue with the players you have now and the two you have coming in next year UC will win 6 or 7 of the next 8.

UC has won 49 out of the last 80.

Look X is a cute little program that has done some nice things. It's almost comical listening to X fans puff their chests because UC's former president decimated the program with the handling of the Huggs situation, leaving UC and new coach Mick Cronin with 1 scholarship player and no recruits. UC had to rebuild from nothing. Only maybe IU and Baylor know exactly what that entails. So good job X, your best run ever happened while UC's program was at one of it's lowest point because of mismanagement from the higher ups. Good job. You had a nice little run, but your place in this city and nationally is and always will be second rate.

UC fans are perpetually stuck in 1992.

UC went to the Elite 8 in 1993.
But hey, XU fans still have that "final 5" to brag about...
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Any of you C7 school fans, be careful about Xavier when their players come to town, they have 3 former players convicted of
MURDER.

In a case full of adjournments and setbacks, Monday's sentencing
of Maurice Brantley for the June 2007 murder of David John
Owen has been postponed.
A new date has yet to be scheduled.
A jury convicted the 37-year-old Canton man of second-degree murder Oct. 15.
Brantley anda Taylor man, Tracy Lynch, were charged with killing
Owen with a shovel inside of Lynch's garage. During a pretrial
hearing, former Canton . Police Sgt. Rick Poniorski testified that Lynch
told detectives that Brantley murdered Owen, 45, by himself. After hitting him
in the head with a shovel, Lynch said Brantley instructed "let him suffer."
Lynch, who had allowed Owen to live with him, admitted to
helping load his body into Brantley's vehicle and said Brantley
told him, "You'll neyer see him again.";.
http://www.cantonpl.org/sites/default/fi...3-2008.pdf

AKRON, Ohio
(AP) - The son of a former Cleveland Cavaliers player, who prosecutors say used a survival tool that included a machete and a saw to kill his friend, has been sentenced to 10 years in prison. Former Xavier University player Andre Smith, 30, son of former Cavs forward Bingo Smith, pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter and tampering with evidence as part of a plea deal and was sentenced Monday.
The family of the victim, 19-year-old Maxim Dudinov, said they wanted Smith to go to trial and receive a stiffer punishment.
"I am a very bitter man," James Edwards, Dudinov's stepfather, told Summit County Common Pleas Judge Mary Spicer. "It's a small wonder the public's confidence in the judicial system has eroded. I am personally repulsed by the procedures."
Dudinov's mother, Maya Dudinova, found her son dead in his recliner in May 2004. She said he was beaten so severely that blood was splattered more than 20 feet away.
Prosecutors planned to go to trial and use Smith's statements to an Akron police captain and the sheriff's deputy who booked him after he was arrested in January.
But Spicer ruled Friday that the statements could not be admitted because the captain continued questioning after Smith asked for a lawyer, and the deputy should not have asked questions other than those required to fill out the booking form.

TEANECK, N.J. — Former Xavier basketball player Lloyd Price was one of two Fairleigh Dickinson players suspended from school after they were charged in the armed robbery of a convenience store.
Price, 21, of Wilmington, Del., allegedly wore a hood around his face when he went into the Rocklins store Monday night. He allegedly showed the clerk a gun but dropped it and exposed his face when he went to pick it up.
Price fled with about $750, authorities said, but the clerk recognized him as a regular customer. The clerk called police after noting the license plate on the getaway car, which was found behind the school's Linden dormitory.
Because the clerk believed the robber was an FDU student who often bought money orders there, detectives sorted through the purchase records and developed a photo lineup.
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(02-18-2013 02:11 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Any of you C7 school fans, be careful about Xavier when their players come to town, they have 3 former players convicted of
MURDER.

In a case full of adjournments and setbacks, Monday's sentencing
of Maurice Brantley for the June 2007 murder of David John
Owen has been postponed.
A new date has yet to be scheduled.
A jury convicted the 37-year-old Canton man of second-degree murder Oct. 15.
Brantley anda Taylor man, Tracy Lynch, were charged with killing
Owen with a shovel inside of Lynch's garage. During a pretrial
hearing, former Canton . Police Sgt. Rick Poniorski testified that Lynch
told detectives that Brantley murdered Owen, 45, by himself. After hitting him
in the head with a shovel, Lynch said Brantley instructed "let him suffer."
Lynch, who had allowed Owen to live with him, admitted to
helping load his body into Brantley's vehicle and said Brantley
told him, "You'll neyer see him again.";.
http://www.cantonpl.org/sites/default/fi...3-2008.pdf

AKRON, Ohio
(AP) - The son of a former Cleveland Cavaliers player, who prosecutors say used a survival tool that included a machete and a saw to kill his friend, has been sentenced to 10 years in prison. Former Xavier University player Andre Smith, 30, son of former Cavs forward Bingo Smith, pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter and tampering with evidence as part of a plea deal and was sentenced Monday.
The family of the victim, 19-year-old Maxim Dudinov, said they wanted Smith to go to trial and receive a stiffer punishment.
"I am a very bitter man," James Edwards, Dudinov's stepfather, told Summit County Common Pleas Judge Mary Spicer. "It's a small wonder the public's confidence in the judicial system has eroded. I am personally repulsed by the procedures."
Dudinov's mother, Maya Dudinova, found her son dead in his recliner in May 2004. She said he was beaten so severely that blood was splattered more than 20 feet away.
Prosecutors planned to go to trial and use Smith's statements to an Akron police captain and the sheriff's deputy who booked him after he was arrested in January.
But Spicer ruled Friday that the statements could not be admitted because the captain continued questioning after Smith asked for a lawyer, and the deputy should not have asked questions other than those required to fill out the booking form.

TEANECK, N.J. — Former Xavier basketball player Lloyd Price was one of two Fairleigh Dickinson players suspended from school after they were charged in the armed robbery of a convenience store.
Price, 21, of Wilmington, Del., allegedly wore a hood around his face when he went into the Rocklins store Monday night. He allegedly showed the clerk a gun but dropped it and exposed his face when he went to pick it up.
Price fled with about $750, authorities said, but the clerk recognized him as a regular customer. The clerk called police after noting the license plate on the getaway car, which was found behind the school's Linden dormitory.
Because the clerk believed the robber was an FDU student who often bought money orders there, detectives sorted through the purchase records and developed a photo lineup.

I see 1 murder conviction, 1 voluntary manslaughter, and 1 armed robbery. Might want to check your math on 3 murder convictions.

2 of the cases are guys long removed from Xavier, and 1 guy who had transfered from Xavier. A lot of guys from all schools have trouble after they leave school, doesn't mean fans of opposing schools should be scared.

So lets say a D+ for effort, F for accuracy, and F for classiness.
(This post was last modified: 02-18-2013 02:23 PM by nathanhm.)
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