(05-21-2012 05:04 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 12:58 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 12:57 PM)knucklehead Wrote:  I think it is looking like a real option. Liberty stated that they have been talking to some other FCS schools looking to move up. A lot of folks are using this example:

WAC West
-Idaho
-NMSU
-Montana
-Montana State
-North Dakota State
-Portland State
-Sacramento State

WAC East
-Appalachian State
-Georgia Southern
-JMU
-Liberty
-Delaware
-Jacksonville State
-Youngstown State

On the upside, We would no longer be the worst conference in the eyes of the everyday SEC fan

A conference made up with the 5 best FCS programs in FCS history would quickly become very good on the field.

The Sun Belt needs to add App State and Ga Southern to block this.

I know we're the new guys here, and it's just my 2 cents, but I don't want to add App St. & Ga So. just to "block" what some other conference wants to do. I want to add the best programs we can for the overall growth/development of the Sun Belt Conference . . .

(05-21-2012 05:12 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 05:04 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 12:58 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 12:57 PM)knucklehead Wrote:  I think it is looking like a real option. Liberty stated that they have been talking to some other FCS schools looking to move up. A lot of folks are using this example:

WAC West
-Idaho
-NMSU
-Montana
-Montana State
-North Dakota State
-Portland State
-Sacramento State

WAC East
-Appalachian State
-Georgia Southern
-JMU
-Liberty
-Delaware
-Jacksonville State
-Youngstown State

On the upside, We would no longer be the worst conference in the eyes of the everyday SEC fan

A conference made up with the 5 best FCS programs in FCS history would quickly become very good on the field.

The Sun Belt needs to add App State and Ga Southern to block this.

I know we're the new guys here, and it's just my 2 cents, but I don't want to add App St. & Ga So. just to "block" what some other conference wants to do. I want to add the best programs we can for the overall growth/development of the Sun Belt Conference . . .

Which is exactly what you would get. You block the WAC East and you get the two best programs available in the footprint. Two birds with one stone.

If the article today on the ten year moratorium is correct, or even if people think it might be, then there are going to be some very unusual things going on within the next little while.

Especially coupled with the Big XII, ACC, Big East, CUSA, and Sun Belt suppossed move ups reported as inevitable and only waiting for Big XII commissioner to be installed.

(05-21-2012 05:12 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 05:04 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 12:58 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 12:57 PM)knucklehead Wrote:  I think it is looking like a real option. Liberty stated that they have been talking to some other FCS schools looking to move up. A lot of folks are using this example:

WAC West
-Idaho
-NMSU
-Montana
-Montana State
-North Dakota State
-Portland State
-Sacramento State

WAC East
-Appalachian State
-Georgia Southern
-JMU
-Liberty
-Delaware
-Jacksonville State
-Youngstown State

On the upside, We would no longer be the worst conference in the eyes of the everyday SEC fan

A conference made up with the 5 best FCS programs in FCS history would quickly become very good on the field.

The Sun Belt needs to add App State and Ga Southern to block this.

I know we're the new guys here, and it's just my 2 cents, but I don't want to add App St. & Ga So. just to "block" what some other conference wants to do. I want to add the best programs we can for the overall growth/development of the Sun Belt Conference . . .

Whether a school has been a member of the SBC for one day or one decade, each President gets one vote and your President now has one vote plus the ability to influence the other SBC Presidents.

That's way to many schools making the transition...

(05-21-2012 07:48 PM)troy4ever21 Wrote:  That's way to many schools making the transition...

Don't forget not too long ago your school made the jump, you should root for other schools who want what you did and got...

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I, for one, think it might be to our advantage to have a league below us in order to provide development for us. See who wins, supports their team, AND is within our footprint down the road.

I say we take App and Ga Southern now though.

(05-21-2012 07:57 PM)Liberty22 Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 07:48 PM)troy4ever21 Wrote:  That's way to many schools making the transition...

Don't forget not too long ago your school made the jump, you should root for other schools who want what you did and got...

Naw, I don't agree. Just because we moved up over a decade ago, doesn't mean we should support everyone with similar aspirations.

Told you guys everyone was getting invites from the WAC.

http://jamesmadison.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1366572

I just got my fourth invitation from them.

At this point, I think I'd even take a football-only East Coast Division of the WAC. Our field hockey team already plays in a similar East Coast/West Coast arrangement. It's not ideal but if App, JMU, GaSo, et al could find a suitable home for their other programs, an East Coast/West Coast WAC would have been created weeks ago.

(05-22-2012 05:06 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Told you guys everyone was getting invites from the WAC.

http://jamesmadison.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1366572

I just got my fourth invitation from them.

I agree with the JMU leaders on this one. Going to the MAC with JMU/Delaware would be MUCH better than this "East Coast WAC" idea. If you have an entire division of FCS programs moving up, scheduling would be an absolute nightmare. Would there not be problems with having the minimum number of FBS games during the 2-year transition since your conference mates would not qualify? That is basically asking 12 teams to move up and fill out an FBS independent schedule for 2 years. I could be wrong but if that were the case, no thanks.

I don't think this would even be considered unless CUSA and Sun Belt were both 100% off the table. I suppose a moratorium could force some drastic action but I would not be surprised if our administration chose to stay FCS over making a very risky move with the WAC.

(05-22-2012 05:06 AM)GoApps70 Wrote:  http://jamesmadison.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1366572

Will they spellcheck if I become a member?

(05-21-2012 05:15 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 05:12 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 05:04 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 12:58 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 12:57 PM)knucklehead Wrote:  I think it is looking like a real option. Liberty stated that they have been talking to some other FCS schools looking to move up. A lot of folks are using this example:

WAC West
-Idaho
-NMSU
-Montana
-Montana State
-North Dakota State
-Portland State
-Sacramento State

WAC East
-Appalachian State
-Georgia Southern
-JMU
-Liberty
-Delaware
-Jacksonville State
-Youngstown State

On the upside, We would no longer be the worst conference in the eyes of the everyday SEC fan

A conference made up with the 5 best FCS programs in FCS history would quickly become very good on the field.

The Sun Belt needs to add App State and Ga Southern to block this.

I know we're the new guys here, and it's just my 2 cents, but I don't want to add App St. & Ga So. just to "block" what some other conference wants to do. I want to add the best programs we can for the overall growth/development of the Sun Belt Conference . . .

Which is exactly what you would get. You block the WAC East and you get the two best programs available in the footprint. Two birds with one stone.

Don't be so insecure. If this happened and then the SBC needed to add two, they could still get ApSt and GaSo from the WAC - with the added benefit that they would already be "FBS" programs and not FCS move-ups.

(05-22-2012 01:43 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 05:15 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 05:12 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 05:04 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 12:58 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

On the upside, We would no longer be the worst conference in the eyes of the everyday SEC fan

A conference made up with the 5 best FCS programs in FCS history would quickly become very good on the field.

The Sun Belt needs to add App State and Ga Southern to block this.

I know we're the new guys here, and it's just my 2 cents, but I don't want to add App St. & Ga So. just to "block" what some other conference wants to do. I want to add the best programs we can for the overall growth/development of the Sun Belt Conference . . .

Which is exactly what you would get. You block the WAC East and you get the two best programs available in the footprint. Two birds with one stone.

Don't be so insecure. If this happened and then the SBC needed to add two, they could still get ApSt and GaSo from the WAC - with the added benefit that they would already be "FBS" programs and not FCS move-ups.

I still don't understand this. Texas State has been out of FCS for 1 whole year, so YAY they're an FBS team! I'm not picking on Texas State, just making a point.

Would it help if Ga Southern and App moved up as independents for a year? We'd be FBS then, so no more stigma!

I realize we can't do that due to NCAA bylaws, but the point stands. FBS for 1 or 2 years might as well be FCS, so why the hate?

Uhm...nevermind.

(05-21-2012 12:57 PM)knucklehead Wrote:  I think it is looking like a real option. Liberty stated that they have been talking to some other FCS schools looking to move up. A lot of folks are using this example:

WAC West
-Idaho
-NMSU
-Montana
-Montana State
-North Dakota State
-Portland State
-Sacramento State

WAC East
-Appalachian State
-Georgia Southern
-JMU
-Liberty
-Delaware
-Jacksonville State
-Youngstown State

I know this would not help Liberty but if the WAC could get just the western half of the above to join none f/b Seattle and Denver, they would be happy.

WAC
-Denver
-Idaho
-Montana
-Montana State
-New Mexico State
-North Dakota State
-Portland State
-Sacramento State
-Seattle

(05-22-2012 01:59 PM)Klak Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 01:43 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 05:15 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 05:12 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 05:04 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  A conference made up with the 5 best FCS programs in FCS history would quickly become very good on the field.

The Sun Belt needs to add App State and Ga Southern to block this.

I know we're the new guys here, and it's just my 2 cents, but I don't want to add App St. & Ga So. just to "block" what some other conference wants to do. I want to add the best programs we can for the overall growth/development of the Sun Belt Conference . . .

Which is exactly what you would get. You block the WAC East and you get the two best programs available in the footprint. Two birds with one stone.

Don't be so insecure. If this happened and then the SBC needed to add two, they could still get ApSt and GaSo from the WAC - with the added benefit that they would already be "FBS" programs and not FCS move-ups.

I still don't understand this. Texas State has been out of FCS for 1 whole year, so YAY they're an FBS team! I'm not picking on Texas State, just making a point.

Would it help if Ga Southern and App moved up as independents for a year? We'd be FBS then, so no more stigma!

I realize we can't do that due to NCAA bylaws, but the point stands. FBS for 1 or 2 years might as well be FCS, so why the hate?

There is a moratorium on moving up as an independent, thanks to TROY!

(05-23-2012 08:31 AM)knucklehead Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 01:59 PM)Klak Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 01:43 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 05:15 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 05:12 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  I know we're the new guys here, and it's just my 2 cents, but I don't want to add App St. & Ga So. just to "block" what some other conference wants to do. I want to add the best programs we can for the overall growth/development of the Sun Belt Conference . . .

Which is exactly what you would get. You block the WAC East and you get the two best programs available in the footprint. Two birds with one stone.

Don't be so insecure. If this happened and then the SBC needed to add two, they could still get ApSt and GaSo from the WAC - with the added benefit that they would already be "FBS" programs and not FCS move-ups.

I still don't understand this. Texas State has been out of FCS for 1 whole year, so YAY they're an FBS team! I'm not picking on Texas State, just making a point.

Would it help if Ga Southern and App moved up as independents for a year? We'd be FBS then, so no more stigma!

I realize we can't do that due to NCAA bylaws, but the point stands. FBS for 1 or 2 years might as well be FCS, so why the hate?

There is a moratorium on moving up as an independent, thanks to TROY!

With the prospect of a moratorium and the Sunbelt holding at 10, look for the WAC East discussions to heat up. Sure hope the SB makes a move, but a new conference of the Western WAC teams and Eastern teams of Ga Southern, App State, JMU, Liberty, Jax State etc certainly has a lot of potential on the field. The two most successful FCS teams in history, 10 FCS national championships, a team that beat #5 Michigan, a team that knocked off a #10 Va Tech that went undefeated in the ACC, a team that knocked off Ole Miss and the BYU of the East certainly has a lot of potential. There is definitely not any dead weight there in terms of actual football teams. Interesting to see how things will play out.

(05-23-2012 05:53 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-23-2012 08:31 AM)knucklehead Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 01:59 PM)Klak Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 01:43 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 05:15 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Which is exactly what you would get. You block the WAC East and you get the two best programs available in the footprint. Two birds with one stone.

Don't be so insecure. If this happened and then the SBC needed to add two, they could still get ApSt and GaSo from the WAC - with the added benefit that they would already be "FBS" programs and not FCS move-ups.

I still don't understand this. Texas State has been out of FCS for 1 whole year, so YAY they're an FBS team! I'm not picking on Texas State, just making a point.

Would it help if Ga Southern and App moved up as independents for a year? We'd be FBS then, so no more stigma!

I realize we can't do that due to NCAA bylaws, but the point stands. FBS for 1 or 2 years might as well be FCS, so why the hate?

There is a moratorium on moving up as an independent, thanks to TROY!

With the prospect of a moratorium and the Sunbelt holding at 10, look for the WAC East discussions to heat up. Sure hope the SB makes a move, but a new conference of the Western WAC teams and Eastern teams of Ga Southern, App State, JMU, Liberty, Jax State etc certainly has a lot of potential on the field. The two most successful FCS teams in history, 10 FCS national championships, a team that beat #5 Michigan, a team that knocked off a #10 Va Tech that went undefeated in the ACC, a team that knocked off Ole Miss and the BYU of the East certainly has a lot of potential. There is definitely not any dead weight there in terms of actual football teams. Interesting to see how things will play out.

Hoping for this.. has makings of a pretty awesome fbs conference with some great regional rivalries..

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(05-23-2012 05:53 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(05-23-2012 08:31 AM)knucklehead Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 01:59 PM)Klak Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 01:43 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 05:15 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Which is exactly what you would get. You block the WAC East and you get the two best programs available in the footprint. Two birds with one stone.

Don't be so insecure. If this happened and then the SBC needed to add two, they could still get ApSt and GaSo from the WAC - with the added benefit that they would already be "FBS" programs and not FCS move-ups.

I still don't understand this. Texas State has been out of FCS for 1 whole year, so YAY they're an FBS team! I'm not picking on Texas State, just making a point.

Would it help if Ga Southern and App moved up as independents for a year? We'd be FBS then, so no more stigma!

I realize we can't do that due to NCAA bylaws, but the point stands. FBS for 1 or 2 years might as well be FCS, so why the hate?

There is a moratorium on moving up as an independent, thanks to TROY!

With the prospect of a moratorium and the Sunbelt holding at 10, look for the WAC East discussions to heat up. Sure hope the SB makes a move, but a new conference of the Western WAC teams and Eastern teams of Ga Southern, App State, JMU, Liberty, Jax State etc certainly has a lot of potential on the field. The two most successful FCS teams in history, 10 FCS national championships, a team that beat #5 Michigan, a team that knocked off a #10 Va Tech that went undefeated in the ACC, a team that knocked off Ole Miss and the BYU of the East certainly has a lot of potential. There is definitely not any dead weight there in terms of actual football teams. Interesting to see how things will play out.

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