(05-22-2012 03:31 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 12:32 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 11:28 AM)MG61 Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 10:34 AM)Grandgreen Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 07:36 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  Well I am a fan of a crappy program. I would like to see the metrics that support your contention that FIU and NT are two of the crappier Belt programs. I assume that means that there are at least 6 Belt teams that you think are better on some basis. If it is all this obvious, please make your case. Couldn't be academics, so let go to sports. NT has had a bad run of football teams, but if that is your criteria how does FIU merit your rating? Overall sports championship, Middle is the king but if that it such a big deal how is NT crappy being they are almost a perennial third.

I am replying to you but I have seen some variation of this comment often on this board, and I suspect most of you realize how stupid it is. You can agrue that the Belt is as good as CUSA or better. The team you are a fan of deserved the invitation more than FIU or NT. However, to imply that NT or/and FIU have not been good Belt members and are bottom feeders in the Belt is just foolish. Any valid points that you may have are buried by the ignorance of such an evaluation.

I based my merit on recent football success, attendance and national perception.

I assume you are stating you are basing your crappiest remark on recent football success, football attendance and my favorite ""national perception". I am waiting on your support on any of this, in particular the national perception.

I assume you are aware that NT has beaten MTSU the last two years and has a 7-4 record against MTSU in football. Also that NT's attendance is far from the bottom of the conference in any year and was better than MTSU last year.

You can't support any of your assertions, so maybe you ought to be a little more selective with your comments.

Out of curiosity, I checked regular season records for Belt team dating back to UNT ending our high school coach experiment with 5 games left in 2010. Compared UNT's record to other Belt members for the same period (2011 & last 5 regular season games in 2010). Interesting results.

12-5 Arkansas State
10-7 FIU
9-8 ULL
8-9 WKU
7-10 UNT
6-11 ULM
6-11 Troy
5-12 MT
2-11 FAU

Nice job hand picking a period of time where MT is at the bottom but we both know MT has won more Sun Belt games than any team in the conference other than Troy. NT had a decent season last year but had several crappy years before that, and dont talk to me about the early Sun Belt year because you guys were basically beating glorified 1AA schools at that point in time.

FIU is the school with no fans so the attendance remark was reserved for them.

Perception wise over the last several years FIU and NT were a mainstay on ESPN's Bottom 10.

So, yes NT is one of the crappier Sun Belt program.

Last two years:

Conference
MT 6-10
UNT 7-9

All Games
MT 8-17
UNT 8-16

Head to head
UNT 2 MT 0

And you say UNT sucks ?
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Here's the last 2 years for the Belt ( 2010 & 2011).

Conference games

12-4 Arkansas State
11-5 FIU
9-7 WKU
9-7 ULL
8-8 Troy
7-9 UNT
6-10 Middle Tennessee
3-13 FAU

All Games

15-11 FIU
14-11 Arkansas State
12-13 ULL
11-14 Troy
9-15 WKU
8-16 UNT
8-17 Middle Tennessee
5-19 FAU

Is this still going on? Let's revisit this when the Big East raids CUSA again...

(05-22-2012 09:10 PM)cajunhawk Wrote:  Is this still going on? Let's revisit this when the Big East raids CUSA again...

We can do it preemptively:

"CUSA just lost ECU and USM and added MTSU and WKU. They have both been terrible lately. If we add Lamar and NM State we will close the gap even further on CUSA."

It never ends...

OK, so C-USA has added La Tech. So, why are we still having to put up with Bulldog fans? Yall have absolutely no business on this board, get lost.

Read the thread. your fans bash Tech, we respond. you get over it. I don't think we would have ever weighed in on this subject

(05-22-2012 10:03 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Read the thread. your fans bash Tech, we respond. you get over it. I don't think we would have ever weighed in on this subject

It really pains me, but I agree with theATLDawg here. Just defending their school.

(05-22-2012 10:03 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Read the thread. your fans bash Tech, we respond. you get over it. I don't think we would have ever weighed in on this subject

Ah, but see this is our board, not yours. If our opinions mean that much to you, then just say so.

(05-22-2012 10:43 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 10:03 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Read the thread. your fans bash Tech, we respond. you get over it. I don't think we would have ever weighed in on this subject

It really pains me, but I agree with theATLDawg here. Just defending their school.

Cozying up early I see?

(05-22-2012 10:49 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 10:43 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 10:03 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Read the thread. your fans bash Tech, we respond. you get over it. I don't think we would have ever weighed in on this subject

It really pains me, but I agree with theATLDawg here. Just defending their school.

Cozying up early I see?

Perish the thought.

(05-22-2012 10:03 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Read the thread. your fans bash Tech, we respond. you get over it. I don't think we would have ever weighed in on this subject

Just tryin to keep up with Latechbbs

(05-22-2012 10:45 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 10:03 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Read the thread. your fans bash Tech, we respond. you get over it. I don't think we would have ever weighed in on this subject

Ah, but see this is our board, not yours. If our opinions mean that much to you, then just say so.

The funny thing is that if you see a disparaging remark or thread about the Sun Belt on bulldog barks and bites and then go over and defend the conference or your school, they'll start whining about how it's their board and your an idiot for posting on it...then they start with their little neg rep thing leaving rude comments etc...HUGE JACKASSES.

I wouldn't know, I don't go over there. Seems pointless to present my POV to a hostile crowd...and I honestly don't care what they think.

(05-22-2012 10:49 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  Cozying up early I see?

He's been sucking up to the CUSA crowd for the past couple of years. I'm surprised to see him posting on here so much lately.

(05-23-2012 07:57 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 10:49 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  Cozying up early I see?

He's been sucking up to the CUSA crowd for the past couple of years. I'm surprised to see him posting on here so much lately.

Never have understood the attraction of La Tech. Mediocre facilities, average program - 2 winning seasons in the last 5 years - and averaged more than 20,000 in attendance 1 out of the last 5 seasons. Heck, they didn't even sell out for SEC Miss State in 2008.

(05-23-2012 08:17 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(05-23-2012 07:57 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 10:49 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  Cozying up early I see?

He's been sucking up to the CUSA crowd for the past couple of years. I'm surprised to see him posting on here so much lately.

Never have understood the attraction of La Tech. Mediocre facilities, average program - 2 winning seasons in the last 5 years - and averaged more than 20,000 in attendance 1 out of the last 5 seasons. Heck, they didn't even sell out for SEC Miss State in 2008.

2 winning seasons in the past 6. Their attendance has always been suspect....they tend to round up their numbers, to even amounts.

(05-23-2012 08:17 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(05-23-2012 07:57 AM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(05-22-2012 10:49 PM)Crump1 Wrote:  Cozying up early I see?

He's been sucking up to the CUSA crowd for the past couple of years. I'm surprised to see him posting on here so much lately.

Never have understood the attraction of La Tech. Mediocre facilities, average program - 2 winning seasons in the last 5 years - and averaged more than 20,000 in attendance 1 out of the last 5 seasons. Heck, they didn't even sell out for SEC Miss State in 2008.

Fortunately for Tech, there is no one better in our neck of the woods.

All-Time Winning Percentages (conference championships) - Approx. Attendance

USM: .596 (11) - 28,000
La Tech: .571 (25) - 18,000
Tulsa: .564 (37) - 20,000
Texas St: .530 (12) - 15,000
North Texas: .522 (24) - 15,000
ULL: .487 (14) - 15,000
Arkansas St: .481 (9) - 18,000
Tulane: .454 (9) - 5,000
MTSU: .448 (20) - 15,000
FAU: .439 (0) - 12,000
Rice: .438 (7) - 15,000
ULM: .412 (5) - 8,000
UTEP: .411 (2) - 30,000
UAB: .405 (0) - 15,000
FIU: .330 (0) - 12,000
UTSA: n/a (0) - 35,000

(05-23-2012 09:41 AM)T_Won1 Wrote:  All-Time Winning Percentages (conference championships) - Approx. Attendance

USM: .596 (11) - 28,000
La Tech: .571 (25) - 18,000
Tulsa: .564 (37) - 20,000
Texas St: .530 (12) - 15,000
North Texas: .522 (24) - 15,000
ULL: .487 (14) - 15,000
Arkansas St: .481 (9) - 18,000
Tulane: .454 (9) - 5,000
MTSU: .448 (20) - 15,000
FAU: .439 (0) - 12,000
Rice: .438 (7) - 15,000
ULM: .412 (5) - 8,000
UTEP: .411 (2) - 30,000
UAB: .405 (0) - 15,000
FIU: .330 (0) - 12,000
UTSA: n/a (0) - 35,000

No offense but did you just make this up?

FAU won a confrence championship in 2007 and FIU did as well in 2010.

Look we get it. Tech is a decent performer and has many proud alums. Since you got what you wanted in CUSA there really is no need to keep spouting off how great Tech is here.

TRUST me, we are VERY aware of how ya'll feel about your school. Many people here disagree though and Tech posters should be able to understand that. Dont take it personal, we just dont feel that Tech is superior to the majority of SBC teams. We feel you are on par and thats about it.

I doubt we will ever feel differently.

I am very proud and happy for La Neck.

..... proud and happy that they sent UT-arnge Derek Doolittle, who has made them get a fraction of airtime that they used to get.

Doolittle has to be the worst coaching hire ever.

(05-23-2012 09:51 AM)OwlFamily Wrote:  

(05-23-2012 09:41 AM)T_Won1 Wrote:  All-Time Winning Percentages (conference championships) - Approx. Attendance

USM: .596 (11) - 28,000
La Tech: .571 (25) - 18,000
Tulsa: .564 (37) - 20,000
Texas St: .530 (12) - 15,000
North Texas: .522 (24) - 15,000
ULL: .487 (14) - 15,000
Arkansas St: .481 (9) - 18,000
Tulane: .454 (9) - 5,000
MTSU: .448 (20) - 15,000
FAU: .439 (0) - 12,000
Rice: .438 (7) - 15,000
ULM: .412 (5) - 8,000
UTEP: .411 (2) - 30,000
UAB: .405 (0) - 15,000
FIU: .330 (0) - 12,000
UTSA: n/a (0) - 35,000

No offense but did you just make this up?

FAU won a confrence championship in 2007 and FIU did as well in 2010.

Look we get it. Tech is a decent performer and has many proud alums. Since you got what you wanted in CUSA there really is no need to keep spouting off how great Tech is here.

TRUST me, we are VERY aware of how ya'll feel about your school. Many people here disagree though and Tech posters should be able to understand that. Dont take it personal, we just dont feel that Tech is superior to the majority of SBC teams. We feel you are on par and thats about it.

I doubt we will ever feel differently.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Couldn't have said it better myself.