(05-14-2012 12:02 PM)Seven Would Be Nice Wrote:  What did you do in 2 years? Be located in a major city? Congrats on your achievement of location!!

Let me break it down so that even a simpleton such as yourself can understand it:

GSU: 2 Years, FBS.

Southern: 30 years, no FBS.

But hey, 6 FCS flags baby! Whooo! Obviously everyone cares about those!

(05-14-2012 01:31 PM)SaintDK10 Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 12:02 PM)Seven Would Be Nice Wrote:  What did you do in 2 years? Be located in a major city? Congrats on your achievement of location!!

Let me break it down so that even a simpleton such as yourself can understand it:

GSU: 2 Years, FBS.

Southern: 30 years, no FBS.

But hey, 6 FCS flags baby! Whooo! Obviously everyone cares about those!

Congrats on accomplishing being in a big city. You guys are the best.

(05-14-2012 03:01 PM)Seven Would Be Nice Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 01:31 PM)SaintDK10 Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 12:02 PM)Seven Would Be Nice Wrote:  What did you do in 2 years? Be located in a major city? Congrats on your achievement of location!!

Let me break it down so that even a simpleton such as yourself can understand it:

GSU: 2 Years, FBS.

Southern: 30 years, no FBS.

But hey, 6 FCS flags baby! Whooo! Obviously everyone cares about those!

Congrats on accomplishing being in a big city. You guys are the best.

I know we are. Good to see you publicly admit what you've been "feeling" this whole time, LMAO!!!

(05-14-2012 01:27 PM)SaintDK10 Wrote:  

(05-13-2012 08:26 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  There is no RPI data for those other sports to use if there were I would use it as it would be apples to apples.

With such a large donation amount how come only 12% of GA St.'s budget is externally generated?

LOL, so I ask about your conference championships, and the apple-to-apple comparison is RPI.

I swear, I have never seen anything like this on a message board before. You are without a doubt the most royaly full-of-BS poster ever to use a keyboard. Pretty impressive.

Anyway, I don't know where the 12% is coming from, unless you're quoting some old data or articles. We jumped by over a million from 2010 to 2011 in non-restricted donations. Heck, in 2009, I think might have been less than a million. $3.2 million was the amount for 2011 non-restricted private donations. It should be even bigger this year.

It was 2010 data published by USAtoday.

As for conference championships - App has twice as many as GA St.

As for RPI App is higher than GA St.

So either way you'd like to look at it we win. That isn't so hard now is it.

http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=570240

Here's a timely discussion on this now...

(05-15-2012 07:47 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(05-14-2012 01:27 PM)SaintDK10 Wrote:  

(05-13-2012 08:26 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  There is no RPI data for those other sports to use if there were I would use it as it would be apples to apples.

With such a large donation amount how come only 12% of GA St.'s budget is externally generated?

LOL, so I ask about your conference championships, and the apple-to-apple comparison is RPI.

I swear, I have never seen anything like this on a message board before. You are without a doubt the most royaly full-of-BS poster ever to use a keyboard. Pretty impressive.

Anyway, I don't know where the 12% is coming from, unless you're quoting some old data or articles. We jumped by over a million from 2010 to 2011 in non-restricted donations. Heck, in 2009, I think might have been less than a million. $3.2 million was the amount for 2011 non-restricted private donations. It should be even bigger this year.

It was 2010 data published by USAtoday.

As for conference championships - App has twice as many as GA St.

As for RPI App is higher than GA St.

So either way you'd like to look at it we win. That isn't so hard now is it.

LMAO!!!! Yes, your last year's RPI of 258 is better than ours of 140. Oh wait, no, this centuries average RPI of 197 is better than ours of 179. Oh wait, no again. Oh I know, roll back just 6 years and THEN your RPI is better than ours. Brilliant!

But going back to apples-to-apples comparison, the undeniable, undisputed facts remain:

- You've haven't won a baseball conference title in nearly 3 decades.
- Your basketball team would rank next to last in Sun Belt last year.
- You haven't beat an Final 4 caliber team.
- You never won a single game in the NCAA Tournament.
- You haven't so much as sniffed an RPI as good as 32.
- Your first year football season schedule doesn't even come close to ours.

You've got track and field, although I don't know how SoCons track and field compares to CAA, so who know how good you're actually there. You've got FCS football for now, but other than that, you are not even in our realm. Like I said, maybe you should have done some research before opening your proverbial message board mouth. That way you'd spare yourself from looking like a complete dumb@$$, which I'm starting to think you actually enjoy doing.

Now tell us all, how much did App State raise in NON-RESTRICTED funds last year?

Look it up with the link above, App raised 4x the amount in contributions according to USA today.

Our budget is 49% funded by external revenue, yours is 15%.

App will be in the NCAA baseball tourney this year, will we see you guys there?

Continue to dig it is too funny.

(05-15-2012 08:05 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Look it up with the link above, App raised 4x the amount in contributions according to USA today.

Our budget is 49% funded by external revenue, yours is 15%.

App will be in the NCAA baseball tourney this year, will we see you guys there?

Continue to dig it is too funny.

Ahahahahaha! Oh no, could it be, Saint3333 dodging the question again and giving answers that have nothing to do with the question, LMAO!!!

Again chief of spin, I didn't ask you the numbers and percentages from USA Today. Simple question, and I need a simple answer:

How much money in NON-RESTRICTED funds did App State raise last year?

Oh and will we make the NCAA Tournament, who knows -- we'll see how we do in the next couple of weeks. In the meantime, do tell us all about your non-restricted donations. I'm "all ears" LMAO!!!

You provided a number with ZERO support. I provided facts as reported by a credible source. Say this out loud App raised 4x the donations that GA St. did in 2011. Game. Set. Match.

You however did dodge my question, will you be joining App in the NCAA baseball tournament this year?

Keep laughing we'll continue raising more money and winning more championships.

(05-16-2012 07:31 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  You provided a number with ZERO support. I provided facts as reported by a credible source. Say this out loud App raised 4x the donations that GA St. did in 2011. Game. Set. Match.

You however did dodge my question, will you be joining App in the NCAA baseball tournament this year?

Keep laughing we'll continue raising more money and winning more championships.

LMAO!!! I dodged YOUR question?? I'll re-post my answer and bold it for you since clearly your reading comprehension is not that great. Maybe you ought to get someone who's literate to read it for you:

Quote:Oh and will we make the NCAA Tournament, who knows -- we'll see how we do in the next couple of weeks.

Now, the REAL dodging of the question is quoting total revenues, subsidy percentage, and every other stat in the world except the one that was asked, which is NON-RESTRICTED donations for 2011. Okay, so you don't want to answer. No problem, you dodged every other question so this is par for the course for you. And okay, you want a link to "provide support" for my claim. You got it!

Directly from the Georgia State's PAC 2012 Brochure, Pg. 4:
http://issuu.com/gsu_pac/docs/pac_handbo...M_ID=12700



BOOOM! Hahahahahahaha!!!!

And that, my not-so-bright, fully-debunked-on-EVERY-SINGLE-point App friend, is what we call GAME. SET. MATCH.

Done and DONE.

Now, take your BS-slinging punk@$$ back to the FCS board you came from and never once dare to compare a world class institution like Georgia State University to that poor, glorified JUCO up in the Appalachian mountains. Oh and say it out loud: SaintDK10 completely exposed me for the fraud that I am.

The only fraud here is how GA St. is classifying its funds to its donors vs. reporting to usatoday, there is definitely some funny accounting there.

Contributions were only $800k for 2011, that is cash RECEIVED. Your numbers are pledges (which could be for a number of years). There is a BIG difference. App RECEIVED 4X the cash in 2011.

(05-16-2012 10:28 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  The only fraud here is how GA St. is classifying its funds to its donors vs. reporting to usatoday, there is definitely some funny accounting there.

Contributions were only $800k for 2011, that is cash RECEIVED. Your numbers are pledges (which could be for a number of years). There is a BIG difference. App RECEIVED 4X the cash in 2011.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Funny accounting, LMAO!!!!

Yeah, straight from the source! That is $3.1 million in DONATIONS, not pledges. That means $3.1. million in funds received, MONEY IN THE BANK! And is more than App State received, even if you take the clearly false and finagled USA report, LMAO!!! That is the same report that lists North Texas as having only $11 million in revenues, when it's actually $22,417,616. USA Today is only off by $11 million, LOL! But hey, I'm sure they're not the ones that are off on GSU and App State for that matter, hahahaha!!!

LOL, this is beyond hilarious at this point!

Seriously guy, you have been reduced to a joke of all jokes on this message board. Get your punk@$$ and that little JUCO of yours out of here. No one is buying your B.S.

LOL, "funny accounting" hahaha! God, what a dope. I am posting a link to this thread on PantherTalk.com

I seriously have waited all these years to find the biggest dope BS-er on the internet, and my search is finally over. Thank you 3333!

Dear internet tough guy,
I knew that would be the reply, predictable for someone that doesn't understand the difference between marketing materials and financial data.

Take off those blue shaded glasses and consider which source is more credible, one that is trying to pump donors up (and can word things in such a way to make it look better) or the second one that is used for reporting purposes and audited by the state of Georgia. Take pride in your increase is donations, but don't be blind to the contributions received.

I've not resorted to name calling, unlike you I don't need to ask like a bully I use logic in my posts.

See you in the baseball tourney in a couple weeks right?

(05-16-2012 03:09 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Dear internet tough guy,
I knew that would be the reply, predictable for someone that doesn't understand the difference between marketing materials and financial data.

Take off those blue shaded glasses and consider which source is more credible, one that is trying to pump donors up (and can word things in such a way to make it look better) or the second one that is used for reporting purposes and audited by the state of Georgia. Take pride in your increase is donations, but don't be blind to the contributions received.

I've not resorted to name calling, unlike you I don't need to ask like a bully I use logic in my posts.

See you in the baseball tourney in a couple weeks right?

Dear Internet Dope,

The fact that you, of all people on this board, is telling anyone about "shaded glasses" and "using logic" is nothing short of epic given the posts you have made on this very thread.

The so-called "marketing materials" is the university's official annual report, put together under NCAA guidelines of fair and accurate reporting practices. To actually suggest that Georgia State University lied about its donation revenues is nothing short of asinine, and further shows to what lengths you will go to once you have been proven wrong and exposed for the fraud that you are.

On the other hand, you talk about using "logic" by touting a USA Today report, which pieces together data from unknown sources for well over a 120 institutions vs. getting data directly from the source. This is the SAME USA Today report that was OFF by $11 million on UNT's revenues, and that was just one mistake I caught right off the bat.

Tell me, since you like to use logic, could it be possible that if the report can be so colossally wrong about UNT, that it could be, and likely is wrong about other institutions in that report? Logically speaking, if the report is found to be wrong and with incomplete/incorrect data, shouldn't the entire report be questioned?

In fact, use logic to think about this for a second. According to that USA Today report, Georgia State had $1.4 million in contributions in 2010, when we had a total of 608 donors. In 2011, we almost doubled the number of donors (1,106), yet somehow our contributions went down almost 50%, LMAO!!

Anyone with ANY objective, logical assessment would clearly see that the report is flat-out inaccurate, but let's be real, you're not posting here with logic or objectivity.

You started out by reaching, and you are now at the point of flat-out denial and lies, and even that might be putting it mildly.

You claimed that if we went back any time period, App State's basketball RPI average would be better than GSU's. I proved you wrong; you said you "need more data" -- whatever that means, LOL!

You said I had ZERO evidence to support the $3 million figure for GSU. I gave you the report straight from GSU and proved you wrong again; you claimed it was marketing propaganda, and touted a clearly inaccurate report.

And you then wonder why you are being called names. I call them like I see them, and I call them what they are. If you had some humility, some basic human decency to admit you are wrong, and bow out gracefully, I would call you something different. But you didn't. You opened your proverbial message board mouth without doing research, and then tried to cover up for your lack of research by lies and red herrings. You keep exposing yourself for who you are: a dope, liar and a fraud. Nothing less. And you will be called what you are. Every. Single. Time.

Annual Report (as in audited information) or Donor Packet? Stop.

Based upon the first post you are the one that didn't do his research before claiming App wouldn't have the on the field success we do have. Oh well carry on believing you guys have a great athletic program which is 85% paid for on the backs of students who attend a school of convienience.

(05-16-2012 04:17 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Annual Report (as in audited information) or Donor Packet? Stop.

Based upon the first post you are the one that didn't do his research before claiming App wouldn't have the on the field success we do have. Oh well carry on believing you guys have a great athletic program which is 85% paid for on the backs of students who attend a school of convienience.

Right on cue.

Every piece of information on any GSU "packet" comes from official university reports, as per NCAA guidelines. That's a fact and no amount of your denial or spin will ever change that.

As far as who posted what first, let me refresh your memory: this whole thing started when you stated that "GSU's historical performances should not be mentioned."

I think 6 thread pages of facts and debunking of your BS, lies and poor attempts at spin pretty much answered all that.

Of course, at the end now we see that this all about jealousy. I mean, App State could only DREAM of being on pace to become the largest university in its state, like GSU is on pace to become in the state of Georgia. With that kind of enrollment, we don't even need to rely on donations, yet we receive more money from our donors than App State. The funniest part is the comment on the "backs of students who attend the school out of convenience."

Here is a "convenient" fact for you: Georgia State university has a student from EVERY COUNTY in Georgia and EVERY STATE in the U.S. We are a global university, with students coming from all over the world to attend our highly ranked academic programs. They do so not out of convenience, but because they know they have a bright future after they graduate. Can App State say the same? Yeah, I thought so.

Run along now, and don't look back because when you come here, you are entering the no-BS Zone, and I cut through BS like knife through butter. God knows you have been a poster child for that fact.

Saint3333, you're only making yourself look more stupid. Give it up man.

You are clueless if you think you'll ever be ahead of UGA and GT in anything but number of students. How come those alums don't come back to campus, could it be because you are a school of convenience?

It is going to be fun listening to your excuses in the fall when once again GA St. can't perform on the field. The results will speak for themselves.

Where realistically do you see GA St. finishing in the CAA this year?

(05-16-2012 05:28 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  You are clueless if you think you'll ever be ahead of UGA and GT in anything but number of students. How come those alums don't come back to campus, could it be because you are a school of convenience?

It is going to be fun listening to your excuses in the fall when once again GA St. can't perform on the field. The results will speak for themselves.

Where realistically do you see GA St. finishing in the CAA this year?

Yeah, I'm clueless to think that GSU will become what USF and UCF are, or heck, what FIU is about to become -- which is light years away from what App State will EVER be. E-VER.

I'm also not sure what you mean by alums not coming back to campus? Our alumni association is tens of thousands strong, and for a start-up FCS program in the middle of a large sports city, averaging 15K for football is good for Top 15 in the entire FCS, and it's only going to get better as we progress to FBS and actually have recognizable names come to the Dome.

As far as our performance, I doubt we'll will more than 3 games this year. The CAA is the toughest FCS league in the country by far, and out of all the new start-ups, ODU is the only one has been able to make a quick transition competitively, and props to them for that.

Regardless of how we do on the field in the next 3-5 years, the future is brighter for us than it will ever be for App State or any other FCS team. We have the alumni base, the money, the market, and an unprecedented pool of talent around us. Nothing but great things ahead, so like I said, do keep up -- just spare us of your B.S. No one is buying it and no one is interested.

Saint3333 give it up man. App will be moving up soon enough and so will Georgia Southern. Let them have their 15 minutes because of fame. They know it is about over.