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I think FAU is right on track for ours.

Im pretty sure that its 33k right now, and can be expanded to 45 (I tihnk).

Im VERY happy with that. Considering that we averaged around 15K, (with the butts in the seat probably closer to 10k) I didnt want our new stadium to look empty.

Im nervous about attendance this year and that people think we are going to sell out every game. I just dont see that happening other then 1st (since people love to be on firsts).

If we can get 20K butts in the seats I will be estatic.
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(03-18-2011 09:39 AM)MG61 Wrote:  Georgia buys a win. How much ya makin' ?

Someone just commented on our board 900k.
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(03-18-2011 12:04 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 11:48 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 11:40 AM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  Frankly, we want as little involvement with the city as possible. Preferably none. They manage to screw everything up. But yes, there are private talks ongoing, and have been for some time. Ladd holds just under 40k, and in order to try to allure the bowls over to campus, many suspect that ours would be similar. I'd be more for 30k with room to expand, but I am apparently in the minority of our fans.

If you get the OCS anytime soon, I'd be surprised to see it open at much larger than 30k. It just doesn't make sense to open at 40k.

I agree, but many on our board do not. You can't build a stadium for a handful of future games. Keep it reasonably sized, fill that up, and create demand. THEN you can expand.

Building facilities is one of those times that tempered expectations are very important. Personally, I don't know if you guys will even need 40k seats for a couple of games off the bat. Mississippi State is the only school I see on the schedule in future years which might need 40k seats and personally I'm skeptical you'll need it even then. I'm pretty sure the Cajuns are the only school that has had more than 30k at a true home game and I think they've only done that a few times.
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(03-18-2011 12:53 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 12:04 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 11:48 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 11:40 AM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  Frankly, we want as little involvement with the city as possible. Preferably none. They manage to screw everything up. But yes, there are private talks ongoing, and have been for some time. Ladd holds just under 40k, and in order to try to allure the bowls over to campus, many suspect that ours would be similar. I'd be more for 30k with room to expand, but I am apparently in the minority of our fans.

If you get the OCS anytime soon, I'd be surprised to see it open at much larger than 30k. It just doesn't make sense to open at 40k.

I agree, but many on our board do not. You can't build a stadium for a handful of future games. Keep it reasonably sized, fill that up, and create demand. THEN you can expand.

Building facilities is one of those times that tempered expectations are very important. Personally, I don't know if you guys will even need 40k seats for a couple of games off the bat. Mississippi State is the only school I see on the schedule in future years which might need 40k seats and personally I'm skeptical you'll need it even then. I'm pretty sure the Cajuns are the only school that has had more than 30k at a true home game and I think they've only done that a few times.

The 40k number is just what folks assume we need to keep the Senior Bowl and the GoDaddy.com Bowl happy. 30k is plenty for USA's needs for the forseeable future.
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I really like SMU's Gerald Ford Stadium and design. I think it seats 32,000 and built for expansion. Something like that would be a good fit for South, IMO.
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Building facilities is one of those times that tempered expectations are very important. Personally, I don't know if you guys will even need 40k seats for a couple of games off the bat. Mississippi State is the only school I see on the schedule in future years which might need 40k seats and personally I'm skeptical you'll need it even then. I'm pretty sure the Cajuns are the only school that has had more than 30k at a true home game and I think they've only done that a few times.
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I can think of several games coming up that may need more than 30k... Miss. State, N.C.State, Oklahoma St., Kent State, Navy (Penscola Naval Air Station hour away), Southern Miss, Tulane and Troy are around 2 hours away. We are currently getting 25k against teams like Ga. State that hardly brought any fans.
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(03-18-2011 12:58 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 12:53 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 12:04 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 11:48 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 11:40 AM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  Frankly, we want as little involvement with the city as possible. Preferably none. They manage to screw everything up. But yes, there are private talks ongoing, and have been for some time. Ladd holds just under 40k, and in order to try to allure the bowls over to campus, many suspect that ours would be similar. I'd be more for 30k with room to expand, but I am apparently in the minority of our fans.

If you get the OCS anytime soon, I'd be surprised to see it open at much larger than 30k. It just doesn't make sense to open at 40k.

I agree, but many on our board do not. You can't build a stadium for a handful of future games. Keep it reasonably sized, fill that up, and create demand. THEN you can expand.

Building facilities is one of those times that tempered expectations are very important. Personally, I don't know if you guys will even need 40k seats for a couple of games off the bat. Mississippi State is the only school I see on the schedule in future years which might need 40k seats and personally I'm skeptical you'll need it even then. I'm pretty sure the Cajuns are the only school that has had more than 30k at a true home game and I think they've only done that a few times.

The 40k number is just what folks assume we need to keep the Senior Bowl and the GoDaddy.com Bowl happy. 30k is plenty for USA's needs for the forseeable future.

Isn't that what I said AJ? 04-cheers
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(03-18-2011 10:27 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  We have home games against Mississippi State, Oklahoma State, Navy, Tulane, Kent, Lousiana Tech and Southern Miss.
FJ, has South announced specific dates (or even years) for those games, or is that information going to be announced later?
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(03-18-2011 04:18 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 10:27 AM)FloridaJag Wrote:  We have home games against Mississippi State, Oklahoma State, Navy, Tulane, Kent, Lousiana Tech and Southern Miss.
FJ, has South announced specific dates (or even years) for those games, or is that information going to be announced later?

2011 (4 biggest games since we are not facing Sun Belt teams in 2011)
North Carolina State (away)
Kent State (away)
Texas-San Antonio (away)
Georgia State (away)

2012
Mississippi State (away)
North Carolina State (away)
Texas-San Antonio (home)

2013
Kent State (home)
Navy (away)
Tennessee (away)
Tulane (away)

2014
Georgia (away)
Kent State (away)
Mississippi State (home)
Navy (home)

2015
Navy (away)
North Carolina State (home)

2016
Louisiana State (away)
Mississippi State (away)
Navy (home)

2017
Louisiana Tech (away)
Mississippi (away)
Oklahoma State (home)

2018
Louisiana Tech (home)

2019
Oklahoma State (away)
Tulane (away)

2020
Oklahoma State (away)
Southern Mississippi (away)
Tulane (home)

2021
Southern Mississippi (home)
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(03-18-2011 04:39 PM)USACoN2012 Wrote:  http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/sun-belt...aguars.php

This has all the dates.

Air Force would be a good money game plus a good chance for a home and home schedule. Eglin AFB is 90 miles east of Mobile and Maxwell AFB is 90 mile north in Montgomery. Plus Keesler AFB in Gulf Port about 50 miles to west in Mississippi.
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(03-18-2011 03:09 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 12:58 PM)AtlantaJag Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 12:53 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 12:04 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 11:48 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  If you get the OCS anytime soon, I'd be surprised to see it open at much larger than 30k. It just doesn't make sense to open at 40k.

I agree, but many on our board do not. You can't build a stadium for a handful of future games. Keep it reasonably sized, fill that up, and create demand. THEN you can expand.

Building facilities is one of those times that tempered expectations are very important. Personally, I don't know if you guys will even need 40k seats for a couple of games off the bat. Mississippi State is the only school I see on the schedule in future years which might need 40k seats and personally I'm skeptical you'll need it even then. I'm pretty sure the Cajuns are the only school that has had more than 30k at a true home game and I think they've only done that a few times.

The 40k number is just what folks assume we need to keep the Senior Bowl and the GoDaddy.com Bowl happy. 30k is plenty for USA's needs for the forseeable future.

Isn't that what I said AJ? 04-cheers

I was unclear whethrer you were talking about USA home games or the Senior Bowl/GDaddy bowl, so I thought he might ne as well.
Put me down for a 30,000-32,000 seat stadium to start.
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(03-18-2011 07:00 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 04:39 PM)USACoN2012 Wrote:  http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/sun-belt...aguars.php

This has all the dates.

Air Force would be a good money game plus a good chance for a home and home schedule. Eglin AFB is 90 miles east of Mobile and Maxwell AFB is 90 mile north in Montgomery. Plus Keesler AFB in Gulf Port about 50 miles to west in Mississippi.

90 miles north...? What part of Mobile do you live in...? It's more like 190 04-cheers
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(03-18-2011 07:36 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 07:00 PM)FloridaJag Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 04:39 PM)USACoN2012 Wrote:  http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/sun-belt...aguars.php

This has all the dates.

Air Force would be a good money game plus a good chance for a home and home schedule. Eglin AFB is 90 miles east of Mobile and Maxwell AFB is 90 mile north in Montgomery. Plus Keesler AFB in Gulf Port about 50 miles to west in Mississippi.

90 miles north...? What part of Mobile do you live in...? It's more like 190 04-cheers


Thanks for the correction. Although, I have quite a few fond memories of Evergreen. :daphne:
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(03-18-2011 02:22 PM)Jag89 Wrote:  Building facilities is one of those times that tempered expectations are very important. Personally, I don't know if you guys will even need 40k seats for a couple of games off the bat. Mississippi State is the only school I see on the schedule in future years which might need 40k seats and personally I'm skeptical you'll need it even then. I'm pretty sure the Cajuns are the only school that has had more than 30k at a true home game and I think they've only done that a few times.

I can think of several games coming up that may need more than 30k... Miss. State, N.C.State, Oklahoma St., Kent State, Navy (Penscola Naval Air Station hour away), Southern Miss, Tulane and Troy are around 2 hours away. We are currently getting 25k against teams like Ga. State that hardly brought any fans.
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You're looking at things through rose colored glasses(or perhaps red, white and blue colored glasses) If you draw more than 30k for half the games you listed, I will be beyond shocked. Yes, you're drawing lots of fans right now against inferior competition with poorly traveling fanbases, but you're also currently undefeated as a program and there is still a lot of novelty around the program in general. You're also giving too much credit to some of the schools you listed, Kent State is not breaking more than 500 fans to Mobile, Oklahoma State and NC State might bring 1,000. Tulane? Unless they're playing a team that's a real draw, they average less than 20k(and you would have to assume that compared to other schools, they get a lot of visiting fans who just want to travel to New Orleans) I seriously doubt Tulane brings many fans to Mobile. As time goes on and you start losing and the newness wears off, you will take a hit on attendance and come back to the pack, granted with USA's long football starved fanbase and attractive OOC scheduling, I expect the USA to be near or at the top of attendance year in and year out, so long as you're winning at a decent clip, but you are not going to see crowds well over 30k as frequently as you are predicting. I could see you coming close to or hitting 30k for Miss State, Navy and Southern Miss, but Miss State is the only one I think you would come close to selling out if you sat 40k, that's why 30k-32k is a good number. What's worse? Once every two or three years when a Miss State comes to town, you have 2k-4k disappointed fans who can't get in? Or three to four times a year your stadium is less than half full? Because make no mistake about it, unless you guys are winning 10 games a year, a few years down the road you'll be averaging less than 20k a game for conference games. Outside of Troy, who are USA fans and the general Mobile public going to be excited to come out and see on a year to year basis? Outside of Troy, who's going to bring more than a few hundred fans on a year to year basis? I think building around 32k is a prudent decision and then if you're selling out multiple times a season(and turning away more than a few hundred people at those sellouts) and you're averaging closer to 25k than to 15k for your "less than desirable" games and you can repeat that for a few years in a row, then you talk about expanding to somewhere between 40k-45k.
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(03-18-2011 11:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(03-18-2011 02:22 PM)Jag89 Wrote:  Building facilities is one of those times that tempered expectations are very important. Personally, I don't know if you guys will even need 40k seats for a couple of games off the bat. Mississippi State is the only school I see on the schedule in future years which might need 40k seats and personally I'm skeptical you'll need it even then. I'm pretty sure the Cajuns are the only school that has had more than 30k at a true home game and I think they've only done that a few times.

I can think of several games coming up that may need more than 30k... Miss. State, N.C.State, Oklahoma St., Kent State, Navy (Penscola Naval Air Station hour away), Southern Miss, Tulane and Troy are around 2 hours away. We are currently getting 25k against teams like Ga. State that hardly brought any fans.

You're looking at things through rose colored glasses(or perhaps red, white and blue colored glasses) If you draw more than 30k for half the games you listed, I will be beyond shocked. Yes, you're drawing lots of fans right now against inferior competition with poorly traveling fanbases, but you're also currently undefeated as a program and there is still a lot of novelty around the program in general. You're also giving too much credit to some of the schools you listed, Kent State is not breaking more than 500 fans to Mobile, Oklahoma State and NC State might bring 1,000. Tulane? Unless they're playing a team that's a real draw, they average less than 20k(and you would have to assume that compared to other schools, they get a lot of visiting fans who just want to travel to New Orleans) I seriously doubt Tulane brings many fans to Mobile. As time goes on and you start losing and the newness wears off, you will take a hit on attendance and come back to the pack, granted with USA's long football starved fanbase and attractive OOC scheduling, I expect the USA to be near or at the top of attendance year in and year out, so long as you're winning at a decent clip, but you are not going to see crowds well over 30k as frequently as you are predicting. I could see you coming close to or hitting 30k for Miss State, Navy and Southern Miss, but Miss State is the only one I think you would come close to selling out if you sat 40k, that's why 30k-32k is a good number. What's worse? Once every two or three years when a Miss State comes to town, you have 2k-4k disappointed fans who can't get in? Or three to four times a year your stadium is less than half full? Because make no mistake about it, unless you guys are winning 10 games a year, a few years down the road you'll be averaging less than 20k a game for conference games. Outside of Troy, who are USA fans and the general Mobile public going to be excited to come out and see on a year to year basis? Outside of Troy, who's going to bring more than a few hundred fans on a year to year basis? I think building around 32k is a prudent decision and then if you're selling out multiple times a season(and turning away more than a few hundred people at those sellouts) and you're averaging closer to 25k than to 15k for your "less than desirable" games and you can repeat that for a few years in a row, then you talk about expanding to somewhere between 40k-45k.
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Well stated. And agreed.
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Maybe some of those 2k-4k fans will become season ticket holders the next year.
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(03-18-2011 10:14 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  I can't begrudge USA for taking an "opportunity" game. We all do it. I do hope that we can reduce our dependence on these types of games over the next few years, and play more home and home series against the better teams in FBS football.

Best of luck against Georgia. I hope it doesn't get too ugly.


It certainly looked ugly for Georgia in the Liberty Bowl this year against Central Florida. With the right funding, the right coaches, and the right recruits, South Alabama can be more than competitive with even Georgia. That's four seasons out. I subscribe to the theory that any team can make a name for itself from year to year. Being undefeated in its two-year history shows that South Alabama is doing something more than "year-to-year." The University of South Alabama is attempting to build something greater. It could be something Georgia and schools like them should probably not overlook.
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I think South Alabama has a HUGE upside in college football, and I think that upside can be realized sooner rather than later. And yes, 8th November 2014 is a long time away.

But with that said, I would be surprised if the Jags can stay within 40 points that day. I think the talent differential is simply too great, and there is just not enough time to narrow the gap.
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(03-19-2011 12:19 AM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  
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(03-18-2011 02:22 PM)Jag89 Wrote:  Building facilities is one of those times that tempered expectations are very important. Personally, I don't know if you guys will even need 40k seats for a couple of games off the bat. Mississippi State is the only school I see on the schedule in future years which might need 40k seats and personally I'm skeptical you'll need it even then. I'm pretty sure the Cajuns are the only school that has had more than 30k at a true home game and I think they've only done that a few times.

I can think of several games coming up that may need more than 30k... Miss. State, N.C.State, Oklahoma St., Kent State, Navy (Penscola Naval Air Station hour away), Southern Miss, Tulane and Troy are around 2 hours away. We are currently getting 25k against teams like Ga. State that hardly brought any fans.

You're looking at things through rose colored glasses(or perhaps red, white and blue colored glasses) If you draw more than 30k for half the games you listed, I will be beyond shocked. Yes, you're drawing lots of fans right now against inferior competition with poorly traveling fanbases, but you're also currently undefeated as a program and there is still a lot of novelty around the program in general. You're also giving too much credit to some of the schools you listed, Kent State is not breaking more than 500 fans to Mobile, Oklahoma State and NC State might bring 1,000. Tulane? Unless they're playing a team that's a real draw, they average less than 20k(and you would have to assume that compared to other schools, they get a lot of visiting fans who just want to travel to New Orleans) I seriously doubt Tulane brings many fans to Mobile. As time goes on and you start losing and the newness wears off, you will take a hit on attendance and come back to the pack, granted with USA's long football starved fanbase and attractive OOC scheduling, I expect the USA to be near or at the top of attendance year in and year out, so long as you're winning at a decent clip, but you are not going to see crowds well over 30k as frequently as you are predicting. I could see you coming close to or hitting 30k for Miss State, Navy and Southern Miss, but Miss State is the only one I think you would come close to selling out if you sat 40k, that's why 30k-32k is a good number. What's worse? Once every two or three years when a Miss State comes to town, you have 2k-4k disappointed fans who can't get in? Or three to four times a year your stadium is less than half full? Because make no mistake about it, unless you guys are winning 10 games a year, a few years down the road you'll be averaging less than 20k a game for conference games. Outside of Troy, who are USA fans and the general Mobile public going to be excited to come out and see on a year to year basis? Outside of Troy, who's going to bring more than a few hundred fans on a year to year basis? I think building around 32k is a prudent decision and then if you're selling out multiple times a season(and turning away more than a few hundred people at those sellouts) and you're averaging closer to 25k than to 15k for your "less than desirable" games and you can repeat that for a few years in a row, then you talk about expanding to somewhere between 40k-45k.

Well stated. And agreed.
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One thing to note. Mobile is one of those places where most of its High School graduates attended SEC schools. Of course Alabama and Auburn; however, alot of my classmates attended LSU, Miss State, Ole Miss, Ga Tech and UAB. Its sister city, Pensacola, is the same way. This gives alot of college grads extra incentive to come home or near home to Mobile for a football game.

In addition, Pensacola and Ft. Walton are becoming retirement areas for Navy and Air Force Officers. They have money to spend. That is why I think UTSA will do well. Plus Mobile also has the draw of the casinos over in Biloxi and Gulfport.
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