From the KKK to getting Mexicans here to do the gardening illegally. A love story..................

Even before Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour announces whether he intends to run for president, he's facing a run of press scandals just like most confirmed candidates endure on the campaign trail. First there was the flap over the Mississippi-approved vanity license plate heralding a leader of the Ku Klux Klan--and now comes a report that Barbour, in his earlier career as a D.C. power lobbyist, represented the Mexican government in a push to render U.S. immigration law more accommodating to Mexican residents who had entered the country illegally.

On Monday, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) called for Barbour to condemn a proposed state license plate honoring honoring Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard. As of mid-morning Tuesday, Barbour had not yet issued a public statement on the proposal, which is being pushed by the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

This controversy comes alongside a Time magazine report that Barbour and the lobbying shop he co-founded--BGR Group--were hired by Mexico in 2001 to work on legislation offering "a path to citizenship for foreigners living illegally in the United States—what opponents of immigration reform call 'amnesty,' " wrote Time's Michael Scherer.

Last night, Barbour issued a statement denying he supported amnesty--though neither he nor his firm denied working on the specific immigration provision outlined in the Time report.

These new controversies add to the potential challenges Barbour faces as a presidential candidate in 2012.

Barbour has had to answer repeated questions about his past as a lobbyist--while also addressing the fallout from remarks he'd made to the Weekly Standard about the benign character of life in civil-rights era Mississippi.

Just this past weekend, Barbour appeared on Fox News Sunday and defended himself on both fronts.

He argued that the president essentially is a lobbyist and must "sell what's good for America to others in the world as well as to America," so Barbour's lobbying history will be an asset. And in revisiting his earlier appraisal of the civil-rights era as "not that bad" in Mississippi, Barbour reiterated it was truthful to his own youthful experience: "I was asked about my childhood and I had a great childhood," Barbour said.

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I don't think Barbour has a snowball's chance in hell of getting the nomination, and I don't see how a white southern governor running against a black incumbent president would ever be able to win.

I guess my problem comes down to there is nothing about Obama that I like except that he is black, and I can't find anything to get excited about any of the leading republican alternatives. Not much to look forward to, IMHO.

Oh, those cute and cuddly TIME magazine articles -- they go after a Republican for doing something liberals don't like (failure to denounce vanity license plates) and they go after him for doing something liberals do like (amnesty for illegal aliens).

Bottom line: TIME magazine is a bulletin board of anti-Republican talking points. Especially if the Republican is running for President or from the South. In Barbour's case, it's a twofer.

I Wiki'd Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest and saw that this guy had an impressive career. So impressive that he had schools, buildings, monuments, etc named after him.

Now the NAACP seems to think they have a monopoly when it comes to being mistreated by the KKK - they don't. None of the other groups are whining about something that happened over 100 years ago, so they should just STFU. For Christ's sake, they're still bitching about Christopher Columbus and that slave thing - which was legal at that time and practiced by both whites AND blacks. Crap, now you got me started.........

The license plate thing came up on the UAB boards a few days ago.

I'm against a state producing license plates that celebrates one specific, individual person, no matter what my opinion of that person happens to be.

Everything in West Virginia is named after Robert Byrd and no one seems to care......

(02-15-2011 05:56 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  And in revisiting his earlier appraisal of the civil-rights era as "not that bad" in Mississippi

That's not what he said. He never said that Mississippi as a whole didn't have race relation problems in the 1960s.

He was talking about his hometown, Yazoo City, Mississippi.

Quote:Both Mr. Mott and Mr. Kelly had told me that Yazoo City was perhaps the only municipality in Mississippi that managed to integrate the schools without violence. I asked Haley Barbour why he thought that was so.

“Because the business community wouldn’t stand for it,” he said. “You heard of the Citizens Councils? Up north they think it was like the KKK. Where I come from it was an organization of town leaders. In Yazoo City they passed a resolution that said anybody who started a chapter of the Klan would get their ass run out of town. If you had a job, you’d lose it. If you had a store, they’d see nobody shopped there. We didn’t have a problem with the Klan in Yazoo City.”

In interviews Barbour doesn’t have much to say about growing up in the midst of the civil rights revolution. “I just don’t remember it as being that bad,” he said. “I remember Martin Luther King came to town, in ’62. He spoke out at the old fairground and it was full of people, black and white.”

(02-15-2011 07:32 PM)SouthGAEagle Wrote:  Everything in West Virginia is named after Robert Byrd and no one seems to care......

(02-15-2011 05:56 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  And in revisiting his earlier appraisal of the civil-rights era as "not that bad" in Mississippi

That's not what he said. He never said that Mississippi as a whole didn't have race relation problems in the 1960s.

He was talking about his hometown, Yazoo City, Mississippi.

Quote:Both Mr. Mott and Mr. Kelly had told me that Yazoo City was perhaps the only municipality in Mississippi that managed to integrate the schools without violence. I asked Haley Barbour why he thought that was so.

“Because the business community wouldn’t stand for it,” he said. “You heard of the Citizens Councils? Up north they think it was like the KKK. Where I come from it was an organization of town leaders. In Yazoo City they passed a resolution that said anybody who started a chapter of the Klan would get their ass run out of town. If you had a job, you’d lose it. If you had a store, they’d see nobody shopped there. We didn’t have a problem with the Klan in Yazoo City.”

In interviews Barbour doesn’t have much to say about growing up in the midst of the civil rights revolution. “I just don’t remember it as being that bad,” he said. “I remember Martin Luther King came to town, in ’62. He spoke out at the old fairground and it was full of people, black and white.”

It's a little harder to attack him on what he actually said. Besides whats the harm in misquoting him, you can hardly expect someone who wants to believe a lie to actually check for the truth.

(02-15-2011 08:17 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(02-15-2011 07:32 PM)SouthGAEagle Wrote:  Everything in West Virginia is named after Robert Byrd and no one seems to care......

(02-15-2011 05:56 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  And in revisiting his earlier appraisal of the civil-rights era as "not that bad" in Mississippi

That's not what he said. He never said that Mississippi as a whole didn't have race relation problems in the 1960s.

He was talking about his hometown, Yazoo City, Mississippi.

Quote:Both Mr. Mott and Mr. Kelly had told me that Yazoo City was perhaps the only municipality in Mississippi that managed to integrate the schools without violence. I asked Haley Barbour why he thought that was so.

“Because the business community wouldn’t stand for it,” he said. “You heard of the Citizens Councils? Up north they think it was like the KKK. Where I come from it was an organization of town leaders. In Yazoo City they passed a resolution that said anybody who started a chapter of the Klan would get their ass run out of town. If you had a job, you’d lose it. If you had a store, they’d see nobody shopped there. We didn’t have a problem with the Klan in Yazoo City.”

In interviews Barbour doesn’t have much to say about growing up in the midst of the civil rights revolution. “I just don’t remember it as being that bad,” he said. “I remember Martin Luther King came to town, in ’62. He spoke out at the old fairground and it was full of people, black and white.”

It's a little harder to attack him on what he actually said. Besides whats the harm in misquoting him, you can hardly expect someone who wants to believe a lie to actually check for the truth.

It's harder to attack him when we only read the sentences you highlighted, but if you read the middle paragraph he was clearly endorsing the Citizens Council. It doesn't matter Haley is going nowhere fast

(02-15-2011 08:46 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(02-15-2011 08:17 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(02-15-2011 07:32 PM)SouthGAEagle Wrote:  Everything in West Virginia is named after Robert Byrd and no one seems to care......

(02-15-2011 05:56 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  And in revisiting his earlier appraisal of the civil-rights era as "not that bad" in Mississippi

That's not what he said. He never said that Mississippi as a whole didn't have race relation problems in the 1960s.

He was talking about his hometown, Yazoo City, Mississippi.

Quote:Both Mr. Mott and Mr. Kelly had told me that Yazoo City was perhaps the only municipality in Mississippi that managed to integrate the schools without violence. I asked Haley Barbour why he thought that was so.

“Because the business community wouldn’t stand for it,” he said. “You heard of the Citizens Councils? Up north they think it was like the KKK. Where I come from it was an organization of town leaders. In Yazoo City they passed a resolution that said anybody who started a chapter of the Klan would get their ass run out of town. If you had a job, you’d lose it. If you had a store, they’d see nobody shopped there. We didn’t have a problem with the Klan in Yazoo City.”

In interviews Barbour doesn’t have much to say about growing up in the midst of the civil rights revolution. “I just don’t remember it as being that bad,” he said. “I remember Martin Luther King came to town, in ’62. He spoke out at the old fairground and it was full of people, black and white.”

It's a little harder to attack him on what he actually said. Besides whats the harm in misquoting him, you can hardly expect someone who wants to believe a lie to actually check for the truth.

It's harder to attack him when we only read the sentences you highlighted, but if you read the middle paragraph he was clearly endorsing the Citizens Council. It doesn't matter Haley is going nowhere fast

I didn't highlight anything. I just quoted. But it's telling that you only read what is highlighted for you. Thanks for the admission.

Since you think the middle paragraph is important, I did just highlight it for you. Now try reading it.

(02-15-2011 09:11 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(02-15-2011 08:46 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(02-15-2011 08:17 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(02-15-2011 07:32 PM)SouthGAEagle Wrote:  Everything in West Virginia is named after Robert Byrd and no one seems to care......

(02-15-2011 05:56 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  And in revisiting his earlier appraisal of the civil-rights era as "not that bad" in Mississippi

That's not what he said. He never said that Mississippi as a whole didn't have race relation problems in the 1960s.

He was talking about his hometown, Yazoo City, Mississippi.

Quote:Both Mr. Mott and Mr. Kelly had told me that Yazoo City was perhaps the only municipality in Mississippi that managed to integrate the schools without violence. I asked Haley Barbour why he thought that was so.

“Because the business community wouldn’t stand for it,” he said. “You heard of the Citizens Councils? Up north they think it was like the KKK. Where I come from it was an organization of town leaders. In Yazoo City they passed a resolution that said anybody who started a chapter of the Klan would get their ass run out of town. If you had a job, you’d lose it. If you had a store, they’d see nobody shopped there. We didn’t have a problem with the Klan in Yazoo City.”

In interviews Barbour doesn’t have much to say about growing up in the midst of the civil rights revolution. “I just don’t remember it as being that bad,” he said. “I remember Martin Luther King came to town, in ’62. He spoke out at the old fairground and it was full of people, black and white.”

It's a little harder to attack him on what he actually said. Besides whats the harm in misquoting him, you can hardly expect someone who wants to believe a lie to actually check for the truth.

It's harder to attack him when we only read the sentences you highlighted, but if you read the middle paragraph he was clearly endorsing the Citizens Council. It doesn't matter Haley is going nowhere fast

I didn't highlight anything. I just quoted. But it's telling that you only read what is highlighted for you. Thanks for the admission.

Since you think the middle paragraph is important, I did just highlight it for you. Now try reading it.

What are you talking about I sited the middle paragraph. Classy sig, been out of 4th grade long?

(02-15-2011 07:32 PM)SouthGAEagle Wrote:  

(02-15-2011 05:56 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  And in revisiting his earlier appraisal of the civil-rights era as "not that bad" in Mississippi

That's not what he said. He never said that Mississippi as a whole didn't have race relation problems in the 1960s.

He was talking about his hometown, Yazoo City, Mississippi.

You mean you're going to believe Barbour just because he lived there and experienced it firsthand over all the liberal bloggers attacking him who have never even been to Yazoo City and probably weren't even alive then telling him how wrong he is? That sounds suspicious.

Silly topic .....children trying to pretend their serious.... quoting Time magazine...WTF......

(02-15-2011 09:20 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(02-15-2011 09:11 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(02-15-2011 08:46 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(02-15-2011 08:17 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(02-15-2011 07:32 PM)SouthGAEagle Wrote:  Everything in West Virginia is named after Robert Byrd and no one seems to care......


That's not what he said. He never said that Mississippi as a whole didn't have race relation problems in the 1960s.

He was talking about his hometown, Yazoo City, Mississippi.

It's a little harder to attack him on what he actually said. Besides whats the harm in misquoting him, you can hardly expect someone who wants to believe a lie to actually check for the truth.

It's harder to attack him when we only read the sentences you highlighted, but if you read the middle paragraph he was clearly endorsing the Citizens Council. It doesn't matter Haley is going nowhere fast

I didn't highlight anything. I just quoted. But it's telling that you only read what is highlighted for you. Thanks for the admission.

Since you think the middle paragraph is important, I did just highlight it for you. Now try reading it.

What are you talking about I sited the middle paragraph. Classy sig, been out of 4th grade long?

Yes, you cited it but it wasn't clear after you last post whether you would read something not highlighted for you. But, if you have issues with that paragraph I'm still not sure you have read it.

(02-15-2011 09:11 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(02-15-2011 08:46 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(02-15-2011 08:17 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(02-15-2011 07:32 PM)SouthGAEagle Wrote:  Everything in West Virginia is named after Robert Byrd and no one seems to care......

(02-15-2011 05:56 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  And in revisiting his earlier appraisal of the civil-rights era as "not that bad" in Mississippi

That's not what he said. He never said that Mississippi as a whole didn't have race relation problems in the 1960s.

He was talking about his hometown, Yazoo City, Mississippi.

Quote:Both Mr. Mott and Mr. Kelly had told me that Yazoo City was perhaps the only municipality in Mississippi that managed to integrate the schools without violence. I asked Haley Barbour why he thought that was so.

“Because the business community wouldn’t stand for it,” he said. “You heard of the Citizens Councils? Up north they think it was like the KKK. Where I come from it was an organization of town leaders. In Yazoo City they passed a resolution that said anybody who started a chapter of the Klan would get their ass run out of town. If you had a job, you’d lose it. If you had a store, they’d see nobody shopped there. We didn’t have a problem with the Klan in Yazoo City.”

In interviews Barbour doesn’t have much to say about growing up in the midst of the civil rights revolution. “I just don’t remember it as being that bad,” he said. “I remember Martin Luther King came to town, in ’62. He spoke out at the old fairground and it was full of people, black and white.”

It's a little harder to attack him on what he actually said. Besides whats the harm in misquoting him, you can hardly expect someone who wants to believe a lie to actually check for the truth.

It's harder to attack him when we only read the sentences you highlighted, but if you read the middle paragraph he was clearly endorsing the Citizens Council. It doesn't matter Haley is going nowhere fast

I didn't highlight anything. I just quoted. But it's telling that you only read what is highlighted for you. Thanks for the admission.

Since you think the middle paragraph is important, I did just highlight it for you. Now try reading it.

What am I missing. He's basically saying that the Citizens Council in Yazoo city wasn't anything LIKE what the north thinks it was. It banned the Klan. Where's the bad part of that? He seems to simply be saying things in Yazoo weren't as bad as other places.

It's important to note something... and you can use Egypt as an example... It wasn't the protesters that overturned the government... It was the military arm of the sitting government. Without their support/restraint, things would have gotten ugly. It was not slaves who ended slavery, but free white men. I point this out because while I'm sure there were many bad Citizen Councils, the one in Yazoo City, at least by THIS report, is one that did the right thing. Just because SOME were bad, it took the GOOD ones to solve the problem.

I'm scratching my head trying to find the problem with that statement myself.

It's still '62 in Mississippi.

(02-16-2011 07:38 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  It's still '62 in Mississippi.

Don't know if that's one of peanut's jokes or not, but it is remarkable how many people I've met who speak and act as if it was really true.

(02-16-2011 07:38 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  It's still '62 in Mississippi.

After 3 Mississippi you can rush the quarterback. What else ya got?

(02-16-2011 02:18 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(02-16-2011 07:38 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  It's still '62 in Mississippi.

Don't know if that's one of peanut's jokes or not, but it is remarkable how many people I've met who speak and act as if it was really true.

It doesn't help its case.

(02-16-2011 02:18 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(02-16-2011 07:38 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  It's still '62 in Mississippi.

Don't know if that's one of peanut's jokes or not, but it is remarkable how many people I've met who speak and act as if it was really true.

I live in Mississippi, I was not born here. I lived in every part of the country except the Northwest. When I came here I never thought I would stay. But I have lived here for 30 years.

My brother lives in Texas and a few years back, he was bringing his girlfriend home, a Mexican. Her skin was as white as mine but she feared coming to Mississippi because she thought people would recognize her as Mexican. She left pleasantly surprised. Too bad 900% of the people never visit Mississippi.

I don't get this. Will Mississippi ever learn? Will she ever attempt to change her perception? There are many reasons business doesn't flock here despite the plentiful cheap labor, and this is certainly one of them.