(01-16-2011 09:29 AM)trojans664 Wrote:  ULL is not leaving the Belt because that would then leave ULM in the superior conference. People can spin it all they want, but SBC will be a much better conference than the WAC once the defectors are gone. Even more so once they add more start up programs. The schools that they are proudly speculating as perspective members would make me puke in my mouth if the situation was reversed.

I believe someone on the WAC board stated it perfectly, Comparing which is better the new WAC or the Sunbelt, is like comparing who is prettier Rosanne Barr or Rosie O'donald. The new Wac will just be the Belt west.

(01-18-2011 11:15 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(01-16-2011 09:29 AM)trojans664 Wrote:  ULL is not leaving the Belt because that would then leave ULM in the superior conference. People can spin it all they want, but SBC will be a much better conference than the WAC once the defectors are gone. Even more so once they add more start up programs. The schools that they are proudly speculating as perspective members would make me puke in my mouth if the situation was reversed.

I believe someone on the WAC board stated it perfectly, Comparing which is better the new WAC or the Sunbelt, is like comparing who is prettier Rosanne Barr or Rosie O'donald. The new Wac will just be the Belt west.

Big West version 2.0 seems more accurate.

(01-18-2011 10:16 AM)dchi72 Wrote:  Either Benson is a bigger idiot than I give him credit for, or there is something to this story.

It keeps coming up over and over.

Benson is an idiot of massive proportions; he started this whole mess by pissing in the MWC's Cheerios. Never a good idea for David to piss in Goliath's Cheerios.

Benson is now scrambling to pick up the pieces and he is so desperate he will grasp at any straw of legitimacy as will the fans of the WAC . . . err . . . Big West . . . err . . . SLC . . . err . . . Western Big Southland . . .

Ok, here's the realrpi.com final ranking list comparison of the 'WAC-5' +2 and the SBC's top 7 finishers. Note that Texas State has 82 FCS programs with a higher ending RPI than they. And UTSA has 23 red-shirted freshman on their roster; that's it. And these are the saviours of the WAC???

So this may be an arguement between dwarfs, however, one dwarf is standing in a hole and is still digging.

WAC
La Tech - 73
Idaho - 79
USU - 91
San Jose - 113
NMSU - 114
TxSU - 208
UTSA - 247

SBC
Troy - 59
FIU - 70
ULM - 88
MTSU - 93
ASU - 97
FAU - 106
ULL - 109

(01-18-2011 12:40 PM)ManzanoWolf Wrote:  

(01-18-2011 10:16 AM)dchi72 Wrote:  Either Benson is a bigger idiot than I give him credit for, or there is something to this story.

It keeps coming up over and over.

Benson is an idiot of massive proportions; he started this whole mess by pissing in the MWC's Cheerios. Never a good idea for David to piss in Goliath's Cheerios.

Benson is now scrambling to pick up the pieces and he is so desperate he will grasp at any straw of legitimacy as will the fans of the WAC . . . err . . . Big West . . . err . . . SLC . . . err . . . Western Big Southland . . .

More truth in that one statement than almost anything else posted in all the internet.

(01-18-2011 11:15 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(01-16-2011 09:29 AM)trojans664 Wrote:  ULL is not leaving the Belt because that would then leave ULM in the superior conference. People can spin it all they want, but SBC will be a much better conference than the WAC once the defectors are gone. Even more so once they add more start up programs. The schools that they are proudly speculating as perspective members would make me puke in my mouth if the situation was reversed.

I believe someone on the WAC board stated it perfectly, Comparing which is better the new WAC or the Sunbelt, is like comparing who is prettier Rosanne Barr or Rosie O'donald. The new Wac will just be the Belt west.

If it makes you and the WAC leftovers feel better, then that's fine to say, but the fact is that the Belt will be the better football conference the day after the defectors leave. Any objective person will agree.

(01-18-2011 10:31 PM)trojans664 Wrote:  

(01-18-2011 11:15 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  I believe someone on the WAC board stated it perfectly, Comparing which is better the new WAC or the Sunbelt, is like comparing who is prettier Rosanne Barr or Rosie O'donald. The new Wac will just be the Belt west.

If it makes you and the WAC leftovers feel better, then that's fine to say, but the fact is that the Belt will be the better football conference the day after the defectors leave. Any objective person will agree.

This is correct.

Picture this:

An all-sports conference that includes Louisiana Tech, Idaho, San Jose State, New Mexico State, Lamar, Texas-San Antonio, and Texas State with non-football affiliates Denver and Utah Valley.

I'm sorry. That is a very UGLY conference. The blind zeal of Ruston will try desperately to equate it to the Sun Belt because of the school's hatred of Wright Waters, but there's just no evidence to support that claim. The WAC is losing the New Mexico Bowl and the Hawaii Bowl. It's primary bid to the Poinsettia will be vacated after 2011 to an indefinite date while the primary bid to the Kraft Fight Hunger is going with FBS Independents over then next three years and probably beyond.

That conference will only have the Humanitarian Bowl which is likely to fold after 2014. No sane or objective person can even remotely compare the new WAC to the current Sun Belt and especially a Sun Belt with South Alabama. That's just foolish talk, blind pride, and ignorance.

(01-18-2011 11:35 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  Picture this:

An all-sports conference that includes Louisiana Tech, Idaho, San Jose State, New Mexico State, Lamar, Texas-San Antonio, and Texas State with non-football affiliates Denver and Utah Valley.

I'm sorry. That is a very UGLY conference.

It won't happen. There is no way that already financially strapped SJSU and Idaho can afford the travel in that conference, especially considering the additional losses of conference distribution and reduced ticket sales from playing distant non-rivals.

The WAC will probably have to start approaching more Southland schools than just Lamar to survive. Sam Houston State and Stephen F Austin have already said no, but Northwestern State, McNeese, Southeastern Louisiana, and Nichols State may all be suitable targets that could possibly be tricked into joining.

(01-19-2011 01:23 AM)Adler Wrote:  

(01-18-2011 11:35 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  Picture this:

An all-sports conference that includes Louisiana Tech, Idaho, San Jose State, New Mexico State, Lamar, Texas-San Antonio, and Texas State with non-football affiliates Denver and Utah Valley.

I'm sorry. That is a very UGLY conference.

It won't happen. There is no way that already financially strapped SJSU and Idaho can afford the travel in that conference, especially considering the additional losses of conference distribution and reduced ticket sales from playing distant non-rivals.

The WAC will probably have to start approaching more Southland schools than just Lamar to survive. Sam Houston State and Stephen F Austin have already said no, but Northwestern State, McNeese, Southeastern Louisiana, and Nichols State may all be suitable targets that could possibly be tricked into joining.

I don't see any of those schools having the funds or support to jump to FBS ball.

(01-19-2011 09:13 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(01-19-2011 01:23 AM)Adler Wrote:  

(01-18-2011 11:35 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  Picture this:

An all-sports conference that includes Louisiana Tech, Idaho, San Jose State, New Mexico State, Lamar, Texas-San Antonio, and Texas State with non-football affiliates Denver and Utah Valley.

I'm sorry. That is a very UGLY conference.

It won't happen. There is no way that already financially strapped SJSU and Idaho can afford the travel in that conference, especially considering the additional losses of conference distribution and reduced ticket sales from playing distant non-rivals.

The WAC will probably have to start approaching more Southland schools than just Lamar to survive. Sam Houston State and Stephen F Austin have already said no, but Northwestern State, McNeese, Southeastern Louisiana, and Nichols State may all be suitable targets that could possibly be tricked into joining.

I don't see any of those schools having the funds or support to jump to FBS ball.

And why would a simple fact like that stop Benson?

(01-19-2011 01:23 AM)Adler Wrote:  

(01-18-2011 11:35 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  Picture this:

An all-sports conference that includes Louisiana Tech, Idaho, San Jose State, New Mexico State, Lamar, Texas-San Antonio, and Texas State with non-football affiliates Denver and Utah Valley.

I'm sorry. That is a very UGLY conference.

It won't happen. There is no way that already financially strapped SJSU and Idaho can afford the travel in that conference, especially considering the additional losses of conference distribution and reduced ticket sales from playing distant non-rivals.

The WAC will probably have to start approaching more Southland schools than just Lamar to survive. Sam Houston State and Stephen F Austin have already said no, but Northwestern State, McNeese, Southeastern Louisiana, and Nichols State may all be suitable targets that could possibly be tricked into joining.

None of the Louisiana schools would be viable condidates for a conference that spreads to the west coast. Their budgets are even smaller then La Tech, UL or ULM.

(01-19-2011 09:44 AM)CajunT Wrote:  

(01-19-2011 01:23 AM)Adler Wrote:  

(01-18-2011 11:35 PM)TennesseeBoyintheRockies Wrote:  Picture this:

An all-sports conference that includes Louisiana Tech, Idaho, San Jose State, New Mexico State, Lamar, Texas-San Antonio, and Texas State with non-football affiliates Denver and Utah Valley.

I'm sorry. That is a very UGLY conference.

It won't happen. There is no way that already financially strapped SJSU and Idaho can afford the travel in that conference, especially considering the additional losses of conference distribution and reduced ticket sales from playing distant non-rivals.

The WAC will probably have to start approaching more Southland schools than just Lamar to survive. Sam Houston State and Stephen F Austin have already said no, but Northwestern State, McNeese, Southeastern Louisiana, and Nichols State may all be suitable targets that could possibly be tricked into joining.

None of the Louisiana schools would be viable condidates for a conference that spreads to the west coast. Their budgets are even smaller then La Tech, UL or ULM.

And, McNeese is content with being a comparatively big fish in an increasingly smaller pond. Would rather be 1 and done in playoffs then pray for bowl season.