(11-14-2009 10:32 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  yeah we pretty much once again embarrassed ourselves on national tv.

No moral victories, but losing to the #9 team by eight points isn't that embarrassing.

Now letting the pork patrol put 49 points on you, that's embarrassing. j/k

(11-12-2009 09:00 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  What is with this rabid desire to add teams.

If this true about UNO, we lose a team rated around 285 in last year's RPI. That in and of itself will raise the conference RPI. Denver is on the clock and was rated around 225.

We can do nothing and improve our rankings. Somehow that seems like a logical move.

+1 and will won't have as many teams to split up our NCAA units with. More $$ for the rest of us.

and yes now to answer the earlier question. I think we do beat Troy, even with this banged up team. If the game were in Ruston we beat them rather badly. Troy would have finished ahead of N Mx State and San Jose St in the WAC this year.

(11-14-2009 10:55 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  and yes now to answer the earlier question. I think we do beat Troy, even with this banged up team. If the game were in Ruston we beat them rather badly. Troy would have finished ahead of N Mx State and San Jose St in the WAC this year.

Tech would damn sure be an underdog to Troy on a neutral field.

(11-14-2009 11:07 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(11-14-2009 10:55 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  and yes now to answer the earlier question. I think we do beat Troy, even with this banged up team. If the game were in Ruston we beat them rather badly. Troy would have finished ahead of N Mx State and San Jose St in the WAC this year.

Tech would damn sure be an underdog to Troy on a neutral field.

on a nuetral field I give the edge to Tech and a toss up at Troy. Troy would finish no better than sixth THIS year in the WAC. It is real easy to look good against the Sun Belt this year. They are having a real down year but even against Middle Tenn. they failed to gain a first down in the first twelve minutes of the game.

Last I heard New Orleans was staying Division I thanks largely to a gift from an estate-has something changed in the past few months? But if UNO and Denver do leave, ideally we'd cut a deal with the Southland to take one of their dissatisfied yet upwardly mobile members (i.e Texas State) in exchange for the lone non-football member UALR. If only Denver leaves I'd say stay put at 10/12.

If Missouri State decides to move up to FBS, the MAC might be willing to work with both MSU and Temple on football-only memberships to balance the football membership at 14 schools. Missouri State already plays field hockey in the MAC.

(11-14-2009 11:50 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(11-14-2009 11:07 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote:  

(11-14-2009 10:55 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  and yes now to answer the earlier question. I think we do beat Troy, even with this banged up team. If the game were in Ruston we beat them rather badly. Troy would have finished ahead of N Mx State and San Jose St in the WAC this year.

Tech would damn sure be an underdog to Troy on a neutral field.

on a nuetral field I give the edge to Tech and a toss up at Troy. Troy would finish no better than sixth THIS year in the WAC. It is real easy to look good against the Sun Belt this year. They are having a real down year but even against Middle Tenn. they failed to gain a first down in the first twelve minutes of the game.

Interesting because most raters have LaTech behind several Belt teams. You may not agree, but that is how you are viewed. Behind Troy, Middle Tennessee and ULM.

CBS Sportsline (#51 Troy,#72 Muts,#93 ULM,#98 Tech)
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...120/index2

Massey Composits (#47 Troy,#70 Muts,#80 ULM, #91 Tech)
http://www.mratings.com/cf/compare.htm

CollegeFootballNews (#81 Troy,#89 Muts, #100 ULM, #102 Tech)
http://cfn.scout.com/2/917617.html

Sagarin (#67 Troy,#84 Muts,#85 ULM, #96 Yech)
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc09.htm

Seems that your men' and ladies basketball also would be behind a number of Belt teams.
Behind 6 in men's, behind 2 in ladies.

yeah because of win loss record but it is pretty obvious the way Tech plays that they would either beat them or go down to the wire. Tech is not as bad as their record and Troy would have the exact same record against a WAC schedule. Idaho Boise Nevada Fresno would add four L's the the three they have now. ratings only look at records when deciding those rankings. And hey I am not saying that Troy is not a good program but come on they got completely desimated by Arkansas tonight and were beaten badly by a kinda bad Bowling Green. The Sun Belt has made them look better than they really are. We just gave two top ten bcs teams down to the fourth quarter. I just don't see Troy beating Tech this year.

(11-15-2009 12:09 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  yeah because of win loss record but it is pretty obvious the way Tech plays that they would either beat them or go down to the wire. Tech is not as bad as their record and Troy would have the exact same record against a WAC schedule. Idaho Boise Nevada Fresno would add four L's the the three they have now. ratings only look at records when deciding those rankings. And hey I am not saying that Troy is not a good program but come on they got completely desimated by Arkansas tonight and were beaten badly by a kinda bad Bowling Green. The Sun Belt has made them look better than they really are.

Blah,blah.............rationalization on your part...........That's how folks other that just message board posters see ya.

(11-14-2009 10:55 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  and yes now to answer the earlier question. I think we do beat Troy, even with this banged up team. If the game were in Ruston we beat them rather badly. Troy would have finished ahead of N Mx State and San Jose St in the WAC this year.

You are the quintessential Louisiana Tech fan living in this little world of delusion. You sound just like most Memphis fans. You have this completely over inflated idea of your own conference and think the Sun Belt is the same conference it was 5 years ago.

Troy, MT and ULM would all beat Louisiana Tech this year. Would we beat La Tech at full strength? Who knows, you guys had a pretty good team last year, but that doesn't matter because the 2009 Louisiana Tech team is not at full strength and the banged up 2009 La Tech team would finish 4th at best in the Sun Belt this year.

What's more Troy, MT and ULM would all easily be in the top half of the WAC. All three would be, at worst, ahead of Utah State. Like most years, the top of the WAC is pretty strong and there are four legitimately good teams in Boise, Nevada, Fresno and Idaho, but after that there is not a good team in the conference.

(11-14-2009 09:49 PM)BlazerUnit Wrote:  

(11-14-2009 02:38 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I count three truly nationally televised games and two more on ESPNU, I didn't get ESPNU until this year and a lot of people still don't. Cox Sports is regional, CBS college sports network so far as I know is available nation wide but the game still has to be picked up at the local level and Gameplan? That definitely doesn't count.

Not everyone gets Univision, Telemundo, TVOne, or BET either, but those are most definitely nationally distributed channels. So you can't just arbitrarily say a channel isn't national just because you don't get it in your subscription package. If Dish and Direct have National Channel X but Acme Cable of Murfreesboro doesn't in any package--NCX still counts as being available in Murfreesboro.

ESPNU and CBS College (fmr. CSTV) both count as national channels. Cincinnati couldn't get out of a contracted basketball game at UAB because of CSTV coverage, originally arguing CSTV didn't count as a national TV partner for the contract to be valid. The game got played, and we won...twice. lol

ESPN Gameplan PPV is theoretically available for everyone (cable, satellite, and online) willing to pay for an entire season's package or just a piece of it. Practically speaking, Gameplan shouldn't count only because it's a slate of channels operating sporadically, not one dedicated channel with a set schedule.

You're right, but it's on technicalities. I think the phrase national television is too broad. There's a difference between playing on ESPN or ESPN2 and any of the other networks mentioned.

(11-15-2009 12:30 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-14-2009 10:55 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  and yes now to answer the earlier question. I think we do beat Troy, even with this banged up team. If the game were in Ruston we beat them rather badly. Troy would have finished ahead of N Mx State and San Jose St in the WAC this year.

You are the quintessential Louisiana Tech fan living in this little world of delusion. You sound just like most Memphis fans. You have this completely over inflated idea of your own conference and think the Sun Belt is the same conference it was 5 years ago.

Troy, MT and ULM would all beat Louisiana Tech this year. Would we beat La Tech at full strength? Who knows, you guys had a pretty good team last year, but that doesn't matter because the 2009 Louisiana Tech team is not at full strength and the banged up 2009 La Tech team would finish 4th at best in the Sun Belt this year.

What's more Troy, MT and ULM would all easily be in the top half of the WAC. All three would be, at worst, ahead of Utah State. Like most years, the top of the WAC is pretty strong and there are four legitimately good teams in Boise, Nevada, Fresno and Idaho, but after that there is not a good team in the conference.

no this is delusion at its finest. Tech would beat Troy, MT and ULM this year and all those teams would not beat UTah St. this year. Idaho beat Bowling Green pretty handily, Troy did not and if it weren't for our two star running backs going out at halftime, Tech would have continued to dominate Idaho by 28 pts. I am not homering at all. It is just plainly obvious that the Sun Belt is having an off year and it is inflating the records of a chosen few in the conference. ULM needed the fourth quarter to put away W. Kentucky last night and LSU needed to recover an onside kick to put Tech away at home. You do the math. and no we are not at full strength this year but even without 7 starters we still took two top ten bcs programs to the fourth quarter. Middle Tennessee has looked good against the Belt but that is it.

(11-15-2009 11:58 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  

(11-15-2009 12:30 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-14-2009 10:55 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  and yes now to answer the earlier question. I think we do beat Troy, even with this banged up team. If the game were in Ruston we beat them rather badly. Troy would have finished ahead of N Mx State and San Jose St in the WAC this year.

You are the quintessential Louisiana Tech fan living in this little world of delusion. You sound just like most Memphis fans. You have this completely over inflated idea of your own conference and think the Sun Belt is the same conference it was 5 years ago.

Troy, MT and ULM would all beat Louisiana Tech this year. Would we beat La Tech at full strength? Who knows, you guys had a pretty good team last year, but that doesn't matter because the 2009 Louisiana Tech team is not at full strength and the banged up 2009 La Tech team would finish 4th at best in the Sun Belt this year.

What's more Troy, MT and ULM would all easily be in the top half of the WAC. All three would be, at worst, ahead of Utah State. Like most years, the top of the WAC is pretty strong and there are four legitimately good teams in Boise, Nevada, Fresno and Idaho, but after that there is not a good team in the conference.

no this is delusion at its finest. Tech would beat Troy, MT and ULM this year and all those teams would not beat UTah St. this year. Idaho beat Bowling Green pretty handily, Troy did not and if it weren't for our two star running backs going out at halftime, Tech would have continued to dominate Idaho by 28 pts. I am not homering at all. It is just plainly obvious that the Sun Belt is having an off year and it is inflating the records of a chosen few in the conference. ULM needed the fourth quarter to put away W. Kentucky last night and LSU needed to recover an onside kick to put Tech away at home. You do the math. and no we are not at full strength this year but even without 7 starters we still took two top ten bcs programs to the fourth quarter. Middle Tennessee has looked good against the Belt but that is it.

Louisiana Tech is not a good football team. Troy, Middle Tennessee and Monroe all are. La Tech would be fourth at best in the Belt.

Wow LA Tech's record is 3-7 (2-4), with losses to powerhouses Utah St. and Idaho. I wasn't aware of this. Why are we even talking to this guy???

Btw, Arkansas has the best offense in the SEC.
They put up 41 points on UGA, scored 44 against Auburn, 47 against Texas A&M, etc. Arkansas would totally destroy LA Tech.
Mallett should be newcomer of the year and maybe 1st team All SEC.

Guys, you are trying to use logic and reason on a delusional La Tech fan. It doesn't work.

Hey, ATLDawg,

Tech does not have any better facilities, teams etc than almost any team in the Belt. La Tech is not any more special than any Sunbelt team.

(11-15-2009 12:39 PM)T2003 Wrote:  Wow LA Tech's record is 3-7 (2-4), with losses to powerhouses Utah St. and Idaho. I wasn't aware of this. Why are we even talking to this guy???

Idaho is actually a pretty good team this year and Utah State is decent. I think Idaho would definitely be in the top half of the Sun Belt.

Who cares? They are 3-7! He needs to shut his yap and go back to his own board.

yeah, La Tech isn't much to be desired. their team isn't winning, they have lousy football facilities, and they are in a ridiculous Conference that makes it difficult to build up any kind of rivalries.

Tech SHOULD have stayed in the Belt, but since they are gone they will just have to suffer the consequences of their decision. We don't need them.

(11-15-2009 02:48 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  yeah, La Tech isn't much to be desired. their team isn't winning, they have lousy football facilities, and they are in a ridiculous Conference that makes it difficult to build up any kind of rivalries.

Tech SHOULD have stayed in the Belt, but since they are gone they will just have to suffer the consequences of their decision. We don't need them.

That is correct; the SBC is in the 'football is king' South which gives the conference several options to add a team(s), if and when the need arises.