(04-14-2021 03:26 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(04-14-2021 03:02 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  

(04-14-2021 11:58 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(04-14-2021 08:16 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  Not that it has a chance of happening but I'd like to see the breakdown go this way:

Duke, Wake Forest -> Big East

UNC, UVa -> Big Ten

VT, NCSU -> SEC

Miami, Boston College, Florida State, Syracuse, Pitt, Clemson, Louisville, Georgia Tech -> Big 12

The states of Virginia and North Carolina would be the meeting points of the Big Ten and SEC. Boston College, Miami, Pitt and West Virginia will play more games against each other. Notre Dame would continue playing in the Northeast and Southeast but skip over the mid-Atlantic states. It's not optimal for either of the gaining conference but it'd get the job done of consolidation.

I've considered that option but it does pose difficulties. Duke and North Carolina were insistent upon staying together when seeking emergency options after Maryland's departure.

There are ways to make this work for you but it requires more moving pieces.

Duke, North Carolina, Virginia to the Big 10 and Nebraska to the Big 12.
N.C. State and Virginia Tech to the SEC.

IMO this would be the simplest division that would be possible, but Nebraska likely would not go for it.

Requiring no school to move puts the Big 10 at 18. Add Duke, North Carolina, Virginia, and Pitt (assuming N.D. still wants independence).

However what this does is to gut the Big 12's potential future value as the SEC would take the aforementioned 2 schools and pick up F.S.U. & Clemson resolving scheduling issues for South Carolina and Florida and solidifying it's grip on Southeastern branding.

Now the Big 12 has these options: Miami, Georgia Tech, Louisville as without Pitt there is no linkage to Syracuse or B.C..

Now if Notre Dame cast in fully with Texas and Oklahoma they would bring B.C. & Syracuse with them. But if Notre Dame casts in fully anywhere why not do it for the most money?

The problem with 16 is that Duke and UNC don't stay together unless they head to the SEC or Nebraska moves back to the Big 12 and if the SEC and Big 10 move to 18 there isn't enough value for the Big 12.

Now if we move to a P4 Champs only and ND feels compelled to join a conference then you might work things out with Virginia and N.D to the Big 10 and Duke and North Carolina to the SEC.

Then the Big 12 has Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech Miami, N.C. State, and Virginia Tech, Pitt, and Louisville to add. That lineup has much more appeal.

If the Big 12 were to take back Nebraska then they could go all the way to 20 and Wake Forest would still be part of the group.

Big XX West

Nebraska, Iowa State, Kansas State, Kansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Texas, TCU, Baylor

Big XX East

Boston College, Syracuse, Pitt, West Virginia, Louisville, Wake Forest, Clemson, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami

Notre Dame would have a pick of the litter with a potential mix of Texas, Oklahoma or Nebraska at one end and then Pitt, Wake and Miami or Georgia Tech at the other. There will be time when they'll have to play a Kansas State maybe once every six years or so. But the divisions line up pretty much North and South.

I don't hate this at all but I'll give my go here with some slight modification. I prefer pods over large divisions but I am more in favor of divisionless.

B1G (24)
East: Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan St, Northwestern, Ohio St, Penn St, Purdue
North: Arizona, Arizona St, Colorado, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Utah, Wisconsin
West: California, Oregon, Oregon St, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington, Washington St

SEC (20)
East: Duke, Florida St, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia
North: Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech
South: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee
West: Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi St, Texas A&M

XX (20)
East: Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami (FL), North Carolina St, Wake Forest
North: Boston College, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Syracuse, West Virginia
South: Baylor, Louisville, TCU, Texas, Texas Tech
West: Iowa St, Kansas, Kansas St, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St

Independent: Notre Dame

So, the SEC / Big 12 is Disney and the Big 10 is mostly FOX some Disney? If so it works. I'll play with a little in my head but it looks pretty sound to me.


Let's assume that there is a culling either due to NIL or naturally with contraction and that extremely less well funded programs may not make the cut. Now let's add to that the need to bring some power balance to the remaining 3 Power conferences and let's take a look at this:

Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Virginia
Indiana, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Rutgers
Illinois, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Wisconsin
Iowa, Nebraska, Northwestern, Minnesota, Missouri

Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech
Clemson, N.C. State, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia Tech
Alabama, Kentucky, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Vanderbilt
Arkansas, Louisiana State, Louisville, Miami, Texas A&M

Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
Baylor, Colorado, Texas, Texas Christian, Texas Tech
Arizona, Arizona State, California Los Angeles, Southern Cal, Utah
California, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Washington


Out: Boston College, Syracuse, Wake Forest, West Virginia, Washington State

Conference Semis. 4 team CFP (3 Champs 1 at Large & You Must Make the Finals of the a Conference to be considered so N.D. is all in.)