(11-29-2022 01:47 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 12:59 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 12:12 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 11:22 AM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 10:27 AM)utxctrack Wrote:  When I was in college UC didn’t even have football or it was crappy. I think they were in the Metro Atlantic or some other defunct conference. Their rise over the last 30 years is incredible and it’s a shame that we never did that at Toledo.

So True UTXC

Like a lot of other things there is little community vision in the aggregate or $ support for UT.

Hell..... this is the city that basically declined to have the Danny Thomas (own son) Shriners hospital.

We shall overcome

Go Rockets!

Lots of money in Cincinnati including 5 corporations that make a ton of money like P&G, Kroger and huge financial institutions. Toledo's biggest companies have all struggled at some point. It doesn't hurt to have baseball and football franchises worth billions. Also there are three billionaire families in Cincy, led by the Scripps ($7.5 B). Unfortunately, there are no super-wealthy in Toledo.

I was going to make same point, plus larger alumni base and local community (population) to draw upon. And you are right although there is some "new" and "old" money in Toledo and NW Ohio, its not nearly that large or extensive,and what there is here is already committed to other social, educational and community needs. I could be wrong, but also seems like UT Athletics has already "tapped" into the big donors with interested in Rockets sports. I am sure there remains potential, especially towards the middle and bottom of the fund raising pyramid (many smaller donors) but doubt that is also anywhere near same potential that exists in Cincinnati.

Which is why the deal that Candle got makes no sense at this University. The only way to justify it would be if we had landed in the top 25 a season or two, and this was to try to keep him here (and we all know where they would have gone).

Appalachian State…Coastal Carolina…Liberty…UTSA…Tulane…all pretty comparable G5 programs that have spent time in the top 25 at one time or another in the past few seasons. No Toledo. That, IMO, was the expectation for the compensation package. If expectations aren’t meant, there are consequences.