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Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - ken d - 09-19-2021 04:40 AM
.815 SEC
.778 B12
.720 B1G
.550 IND
.542 ACC
.542 MWC
.450 SBC
.417 AAC
.391 PAC
.208 USA
.120 MAC
.103 FCS
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - HawaiiMongoose - 09-19-2021 04:59 AM
(09-19-2021 04:40 AM)ken d Wrote: .815 SEC
.778 B12
.720 B1G
.565 IND
.542 ACC
.542 MWC
.450 SBC
.417 AAC
.391 PAC
.208 USA
.120 MAC
.103 FCS
Thanks for posting that.
On a related note the MWC already has five P5 wins, by four different members, and would have six if not for the officials robbing BSU of a TD near the end of today's one-point loss to Oklahoma State.
By comparison the AAC has two, and one of those was by Cincinnati who is exiting the conference.
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - quo vadis - 09-19-2021 05:13 AM
(09-19-2021 04:59 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:(09-19-2021 04:40 AM)ken d Wrote: .815 SEC
.778 B12
.720 B1G
.565 IND
.542 ACC
.542 MWC
.450 SBC
.417 AAC
.391 PAC
.208 USA
.120 MAC
.103 FCS
Thanks for posting that.
On a related note the MWC already has five P5 wins, by four different members, and would have six if not for the officials robbing BSU of a TD near the end of today's one-point loss to Oklahoma State.
By comparison the AAC has two, and one of those was by Cincinnati who is exiting the conference.
Yeah, that was a terrible call by the officials. Not only called the OKS runner down, but blew the whistle on the scoop return.
The AAC has three, btw - Memphis beat Mississippi State yesterday, though they were badly outplayed in the game.
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - ken d - 09-19-2021 05:25 AM
(09-19-2021 05:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:(09-19-2021 04:59 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:(09-19-2021 04:40 AM)ken d Wrote: .815 SEC
.778 B12
.720 B1G
.565 IND
.542 ACC
.542 MWC
.450 SBC
.417 AAC
.391 PAC
.208 USA
.120 MAC
.103 FCS
Thanks for posting that.
On a related note the MWC already has five P5 wins, by four different members, and would have six if not for the officials robbing BSU of a TD near the end of today's one-point loss to Oklahoma State.
By comparison the AAC has two, and one of those was by Cincinnati who is exiting the conference.
Yeah, that was a terrible call by the officials. Not only called the OKS runner down, but blew the whistle on the scoop return.
The AAC has three, btw - Memphis beat Mississippi State yesterday, though they were badly outplayed in the game.
Who is the third one?
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - Milwaukee - 09-19-2021 05:33 AM
(09-19-2021 04:59 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:(09-19-2021 04:40 AM)ken d Wrote: .815 SEC
.778 B12
.720 B1G
.565 IND
.542 ACC
.542 MWC
.450 SBC
.417 AAC
.391 PAC
.208 USA
.120 MAC
.103 FCS
Thanks for posting that.
On a related note the MWC already has five P5 wins, by four different members, and would have six if not for the officials robbing BSU of a TD near the end of today's one-point loss to Oklahoma State.
By comparison the AAC has two, and one of those was by Cincinnati who is exiting the conference.
That may be true, but three of the AAC second-tier teams do deserve a little credit for playing very close, hard-fought games vs. P5 schools.
Tulane lost by only 5 to #2 Oklahoma, 35-40
ECU lost by only 3 pts to (P5) South Carolina, 17-20
Tulsa lost by only 5 pts to (P5) Oklahoma St., 23-28
.
The AAC hasn't had as much success vs. P5 teams, but has won about 3/4 of its games vs. G5 teams, and was ranked #6 among the FBS conferences after week 2. The MWC was ranked #8. The AAC teams won 60% of their games this weekend, and the MWC teams won 50% of theirs.
https://masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm
.
BTW - - credit where credit is due - - kudos to SDSU for winning a whale of a ballgame vs. Utah in triple overtime, and to Fresno State for pulling out a stunning come from behind last-minute win vs. UCLA, and Boise State took Oklahoma St. down to the wire before losing by a single point. In addition, CSU won what might turn out to be an important game for their program @ Toledo.
*CBS's Chip Patterson ranks Fresno State #24 in his projected top 25 poll.
Meanwhile, bleacherreport.com predicts that SDSU will be ranked #23
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2948509-college-football-rankings-brs-top-25-after-week-3
Great job of representing the G5 conferences!
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - ken d - 09-19-2021 06:02 AM
Win% in all games:
.852 B12
.833 SEC
.774 B1G
.647 ACC
.618 MWC
.586 SBC
.565 IND
.531 AAC
.500 PAC
.486 USA
.361 MAC
Winning 90% of the time against FCS opponents sure does help with bowl eligibility.
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - ken d - 09-19-2021 06:17 AM
Win% vs P5
.625 IND
.615 B1G
.600 SEC
.571 B12
.333 PAC
.333 MWC
.273 ACC
.200 USA
.154 AAC
.125 MAC
.125 SBC
.093 FCS
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - ken d - 09-19-2021 07:06 AM
Win% vs G5:
SEC .941
B12 .909
MWC .889
B1G .833
ACC .769
AAC .727
SBC .667
IND .500
PAC .429
USA .214
MAC .111
FCS .111
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - SkullyMaroo - 09-19-2021 07:11 AM
(09-19-2021 07:06 AM)ken d Wrote: Win% vs G5:
MWC 1.000
SEC .941
B12 .909
B1G .833
ACC .769
AAC .727
SBC .667
IND .500
PAC .429
USA .214
MAC .111
SBC .111
You have SBC twice and the .111 is wrong.
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - quo vadis - 09-19-2021 07:49 AM
(09-19-2021 05:25 AM)ken d Wrote:(09-19-2021 05:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:(09-19-2021 04:59 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:(09-19-2021 04:40 AM)ken d Wrote: .815 SEC
.778 B12
.720 B1G
.565 IND
.542 ACC
.542 MWC
.450 SBC
.417 AAC
.391 PAC
.208 USA
.120 MAC
.103 FCS
Thanks for posting that.
On a related note the MWC already has five P5 wins, by four different members, and would have six if not for the officials robbing BSU of a TD near the end of today's one-point loss to Oklahoma State.
By comparison the AAC has two, and one of those was by Cincinnati who is exiting the conference.
Yeah, that was a terrible call by the officials. Not only called the OKS runner down, but blew the whistle on the scoop return.
The AAC has three, btw - Memphis beat Mississippi State yesterday, though they were badly outplayed in the game.
Who is the third one?
My mistake, there is no third one, LOL.
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - quo vadis - 09-19-2021 07:50 AM
(09-19-2021 05:33 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:(09-19-2021 04:59 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:(09-19-2021 04:40 AM)ken d Wrote: .815 SEC
.778 B12
.720 B1G
.565 IND
.542 ACC
.542 MWC
.450 SBC
.417 AAC
.391 PAC
.208 USA
.120 MAC
.103 FCS
Thanks for posting that.
On a related note the MWC already has five P5 wins, by four different members, and would have six if not for the officials robbing BSU of a TD near the end of today's one-point loss to Oklahoma State.
By comparison the AAC has two, and one of those was by Cincinnati who is exiting the conference.
That may be true, but three of the AAC second-tier teams do deserve a little credit for playing very close, hard-fought games vs. P5 schools.
Tulane lost by only 5 to #2 Oklahoma, 35-40
ECU lost by only 3 pts to (P5) South Carolina, 17-20
Tulsa lost by only 5 pts to (P5) Oklahoma St., 23-28
.
The AAC hasn't had as much success vs. P5 teams, but has won about 3/4 of its games vs. G5 teams, and was ranked #6 among the FBS conferences after week 2. The MWC was ranked #8. The AAC teams won 60% of their games this weekend, and the MWC teams won 50% of theirs.
https://masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm
I ignore the computer rankings until about week six. Before then, most of them use last year's date to "back fill" for the lack of enough data points to do this year's calculations.
So IMO, right now, an eyeball test is better, and the MW seems to have that.
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - ken d - 09-19-2021 08:09 AM
(09-19-2021 07:11 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:(09-19-2021 07:06 AM)ken d Wrote: Win% vs G5:
MWC 1.000
SEC .941
B12 .909
B1G .833
ACC .769
AAC .727
SBC .667
IND .500
PAC .429
USA .214
MAC .111
SBC .111
You have SBC twice and the .111 is wrong.
Fixed. The second one should have been FCS, not SBC.
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - bullet - 09-19-2021 01:07 PM
The Pac 12 is ahead of only the CUSA and MAC in ooc win %.
Even if they win all their remaining ooc games, they will still be below .500 (at least before the bowls). And their last 4 include 2 against ND and 2 against BYU. The only other time that happened going back to 1994 was last year and that was on only 3 games.
Its a historically bad year for them.
The Sun Belt, is clearly ahead of CUSA and MAC this year. MAC only has 2 schools with only 1 loss and nobody unbeaten. CUSA still has 1 unbeaten and 6 with 1 loss. Sun Belt has 2 unbeaten and 4 with 2 loss.
MWC still has 3 unbeaten and 5 with 1 loss. AAC 3 unbeaten and 2 with 1 loss. Those 8 unbeatens and 19 once beatens are the schools still alive for the G5 NY6 slot (barring all the conferences having 2 loss champs).
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - Fighting Muskie - 09-19-2021 01:23 PM
The MWC can be a pretty formidable force. Fresno St and San Diego St are a great dynamic duo in the West Division.
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - quo vadis - 09-19-2021 01:50 PM
(09-19-2021 01:23 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: The MWC can be a pretty formidable force. Fresno St and San Diego St are a great dynamic duo in the West Division.
The MW is currently making their commissioner's case that nobody needs to leave to be in the top G5 conference.
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - schmolik - 09-19-2021 04:55 PM
(09-19-2021 01:07 PM)bullet Wrote: The Pac 12 is ahead of only the CUSA and MAC in ooc win %.
Even if they win all their remaining ooc games, they will still be below .500 (at least before the bowls). And their last 4 include 2 against ND and 2 against BYU. The only other time that happened going back to 1994 was last year and that was on only 3 games.
Its a historically bad year for them.
And if Oregon goes undefeated, they're still going to the Playoff. And if Oregon can't go undefeated in this Pac-12, I may never see a Pac-12 team in a 4 team College Football Playoff. Ironically, they might have cost the Pac-12 a team in the CFP the last two years (Utah in 2019 and USC in 2020) by winning the Pac-12. Wouldn't it be the Pac-12's rotten luck if some other team screws over Oregon this year?
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - UofMstateU - 09-19-2021 05:16 PM
The issue the MW has is that Boise St can essentially screw the entire conference over by going on a winning streak.
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - Sactowndog - 09-19-2021 10:05 PM
(09-19-2021 04:55 PM)schmolik Wrote:(09-19-2021 01:07 PM)bullet Wrote: The Pac 12 is ahead of only the CUSA and MAC in ooc win %.
Even if they win all their remaining ooc games, they will still be below .500 (at least before the bowls). And their last 4 include 2 against ND and 2 against BYU. The only other time that happened going back to 1994 was last year and that was on only 3 games.
Its a historically bad year for them.
And if Oregon goes undefeated, they're still going to the Playoff. And if Oregon can't go undefeated in this Pac-12, I may never see a Pac-12 team in a 4 team College Football Playoff. Ironically, they might have cost the Pac-12 a team in the CFP the last two years (Utah in 2019 and USC in 2020) by winning the Pac-12. Wouldn't it be the Pac-12's rotten luck if some other team screws over Oregon this year?
If (knock on wood) if Oregon goes undefeated and UCLA only loses to Oregon in the Championship Game, and Fresno wins out…. What do they do with Fresno?
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - Sactowndog - 09-19-2021 10:08 PM
(09-19-2021 05:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: The issue the MW has is that Boise St can essentially screw the entire conference over by going on a winning streak.
Yep Fresno, SDSU and Boise all play each other at least once and maybe twice.
RE: Conference OOC Win% vs FBS after Week 3 - stever20 - 09-19-2021 11:19 PM
(09-19-2021 07:06 AM)ken d Wrote: Win% vs G5:
MWC 1.000
SEC .941
B12 .909
B1G .833
ACC .769
AAC .727
SBC .667
IND .500
PAC .429
USA .214
MAC .111
FCS .111
MWC can't be at 1.000 because Boise lost to UCF. They are 2-1 with 3 independent wins.