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Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - emu79 - 07-22-2020 10:21 AM
https://emueagles.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster
Does not include the three transfers: Lowder, Love III and Okongo. I assume that changes once they start classes.
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - emu steve - 07-22-2020 10:25 AM
(07-22-2020 10:21 AM)emu79 Wrote: https://emueagles.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster
Does not include the three transfers: Lowder, Love III and Okongo. I assume that changes once they start classes.
Or on campus or something.
This year, as we know, is so crazy we don't know who is already on campus including newcomers.
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - EagleSam - 07-22-2020 07:49 PM
Did Jimmy Wooten leave?
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - emu79 - 07-22-2020 10:59 PM
(07-22-2020 07:49 PM)EagleSam Wrote: Did Jimmy Wooten leave?
Good catch. Looks that way. Wonder if they are going to hire one to replace him. Mike Talley III is a ,name that comes to mind. Believe he is coaching AAU team in Detroit. The Family.
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - emu steve - 07-23-2020 05:01 AM
(07-22-2020 10:59 PM)emu79 Wrote:(07-22-2020 07:49 PM)EagleSam Wrote: Did Jimmy Wooten leave?
Good catch. Looks that way. Wonder if they are going to hire one to replace him. Mike Talley Jr is a ,name that comes to mind
Wow. He did the recruiting for us.
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - emu79 - 07-23-2020 05:34 AM
The 2021 class will be a big one so being short handed assistant coach wise is not good.
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - FrankAnderson - 07-23-2020 08:22 AM
I'm sure we'll hire a young up-and-comer before the season tips off. Hopefully good one.
Who knows? Maybe Mike Talley.
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - emu steve - 07-23-2020 12:57 PM
(07-23-2020 05:34 AM)emu79 Wrote: The 2021 class will be a big one so being short handed assistant coach wise is not good.
The coach has to be able to recruit.
Wooten was brought in to recruit, esp. the East Coast, which is his home area.
I believe an issue with Benny White is that he wasn't an effective recruiter. White is a very, very nice guy. I really like him as a person. Some old folks here may remember Kevin Heck. Very good basketball mind. We followed Gary Waters to Kent State and later Rutgers. Eventually lost his job because he couldn't recruit well enough. I believe he was replaced by an asst coach who was a go to recruiting coach. At Rutgers got to be able to recruit or perish. Talent wins at that level.
As I understand it, the coaches have different roles besides coaching position players (e.g., point guards, wing players, or big men) but also recruiting, breaking down film and scouting, scheduling, etc.
Typically the assoc head coach works on scheduling, a thankless job for mid-major coaches. He or another coach may work on scouting and film breakdown.
The next coach may also gain experience working on scouting and film breakdown.
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - FrankAnderson - 07-23-2020 03:13 PM
Not roster related, but Stadium polled MAC basketball assistant coaches and named the Top 5 assistant coaches in the conference. Kevin Mondro came in at #5.
https://watchstadium.com/top-mens-basketball-assistants-mac-07-22-2020/
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - Jerry Weaver - 07-23-2020 07:36 PM
(07-23-2020 03:13 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote: Not roster related, but Stadium polled MAC basketball assistant coaches and named the Top 5 assistant coaches in the conference. Kevin Mondro came in at #5.
https://watchstadium.com/top-mens-basketball-assistants-mac-07-22-2020/
Hey I love Kevin Mondro, he seems to be a really nice guy and a class act. If you attend games, however, you will see him as an assistant with his hands largely in his pockets and not truly engaged in the on-court action or for that matter, any pregame interactions with players. He coaches the big guys, he seemed to a great job with Toure, not so much with Thompson, King, Jones, Steele, etc... Obviously he is a well liked person amongst his peers, I just have my doubts about his efficacy as an assistant coach. Just my opinion.
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - emu steve - 07-23-2020 08:44 PM
(07-23-2020 07:36 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:(07-23-2020 03:13 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote: Not roster related, but Stadium polled MAC basketball assistant coaches and named the Top 5 assistant coaches in the conference. Kevin Mondro came in at #5.
https://watchstadium.com/top-mens-basketball-assistants-mac-07-22-2020/
Hey I love Kevin Mondro, he seems to be a really nice guy and a class act. If you attend games, however, you will see him as an assistant with his hands largely in his pockets and not truly engaged in the on-court action or for that matter, any pregame interactions with players. He coaches the big guys, he seemed to a great job with Toure, not so much with Thompson, King, Jones, Steele, etc... Obviously he is a well liked person amongst his peers, I just have my doubts about his efficacy as an assistant coach. Just my opinion.
I have some feel for how Murphy runs this team. I have actually been in the team hotel on one of their trips here to D.C. (actually Baltimore).
Mondro was in the lobby with his laptop going over scouting materials for the game. I assume he was doing the scouting reports, etc.
I've also been in the Convo during summer (usually make it once a year) and asked about OOC games and Murphy pointed me to Mondro for the info.
I think the big change is that Matt Cline is taking a bigger role in team operations. He seems to be a 'jack of all trades."
I believe Murphy has publicly mentioned that Wooten was the man for recruiting. He was brought in to recruit.
We (on the board) seem to have the feel that Cline is very involved in recruiting but I do not know this one way or the other.
I remember the olden days when Brown and White were the two primary recruiters. I assume it was Wooten and Cline, but not sure what Cline's role is.
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - emu79 - 07-23-2020 10:29 PM
(07-23-2020 08:44 PM)emu steve Wrote:(07-23-2020 07:36 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:(07-23-2020 03:13 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote: Not roster related, but Stadium polled MAC basketball assistant coaches and named the Top 5 assistant coaches in the conference. Kevin Mondro came in at #5.
https://watchstadium.com/top-mens-basketball-assistants-mac-07-22-2020/
Hey I love Kevin Mondro, he seems to be a really nice guy and a class act. If you attend games, however, you will see him as an assistant with his hands largely in his pockets and not truly engaged in the on-court action or for that matter, any pregame interactions with players. He coaches the big guys, he seemed to a great job with Toure, not so much with Thompson, King, Jones, Steele, etc... Obviously he is a well liked person amongst his peers, I just have my doubts about his efficacy as an assistant coach. Just my opinion.
I have some feel for how Murphy runs this team. I have actually been in the team hotel on one of their trips here to D.C. (actually Baltimore).
Mondro was in the lobby with his laptop going over scouting materials for the game. I assume he was doing the scouting reports, etc.
I've also been in the Convo during summer (usually make it once a year) and asked about OOC games and Murphy pointed me to Mondro for the info.
I think the big change is that Matt Cline is taking a bigger role in team operations. He seems to be a 'jack of all trades."
I believe Murphy has publicly mentioned that Wooten was the man for recruiting. He was brought in to recruit.
We (on the board) seem to have the feel that Cline is very involved in recruiting but I do not know this one way or the other.
I remember the olden days when Brown and White were the two primary recruiters. I assume it was Wooten and Cline, but not sure what Cline's role is.
Cline like Brown recruits the jucos. Wooten the preps.
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - emu79 - 07-24-2020 07:28 AM
Last summer we got photos of the guys and coaches working out. Hopefully we do this year. Also I think Gibson should be a Jr on the roster and Pacheco a redshir t frosh.
Earl Boykins is now at Arkansas as player director and John Bowler Wisconsin Mil as an assistant.
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - emu79 - 07-24-2020 05:36 PM
Andrew Moore left his Air Force job to be head coach at an Ohio high school.
Lorenzo Neely still an assistant at Wayne St
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - holybovine - 07-24-2020 08:54 PM
(07-24-2020 07:28 AM)emu79 Wrote: Last summer we got photos of the guys and coaches working out. Hopefully we do this year. Also I think Gibson should be a Jr on the roster and Pacheco a redshir t frosh.
Earl Boykins is now at Arkansas as player director and John Bowler Wisconsin Mil as an assistant.
I’d love it if Bowler makes his way back to Ypsilanti in the next five years...
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - emu steve - 07-25-2020 05:01 AM
(07-24-2020 08:54 PM)holybovine Wrote:(07-24-2020 07:28 AM)emu79 Wrote: Last summer we got photos of the guys and coaches working out. Hopefully we do this year. Also I think Gibson should be a Jr on the roster and Pacheco a redshir t frosh.
Earl Boykins is now at Arkansas as player director and John Bowler Wisconsin Mil as an assistant.
I’d love it if Bowler makes his way back to Ypsilanti in the next five years...
It would be nice but in my opinion the following would need to happen:
1). Mondro would leave,
2). Cline move up to fill his slot with scheduling, etc.
3). Bowler would fill Cline's spot.
OR if Cline left Bowler could take that slot.
The key slots are the 'assoc head coach' slot that Mondro has and the vacant 'recruiting' coach.
Bowler doesn't fit either. And the other question does Bowler make more at WI-Mil than he would at EMU? (I assume so).
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - TheWoodenNickle - 07-25-2020 11:06 AM
(07-25-2020 05:01 AM)emu steve Wrote:The reality is that next March there will likely be a major change for EMU men's BB.(07-24-2020 08:54 PM)holybovine Wrote:(07-24-2020 07:28 AM)emu79 Wrote: Last summer we got photos of the guys and coaches working out. Hopefully we do this year. Also I think Gibson should be a Jr on the roster and Pacheco a redshir t frosh.
Earl Boykins is now at Arkansas as player director and John Bowler Wisconsin Mil as an assistant.
I’d love it if Bowler makes his way back to Ypsilanti in the next five years...
It would be nice but in my opinion the following would need to happen:
1). Mondro would leave,
2). Cline move up to fill his slot with scheduling, etc.
3). Bowler would fill Cline's spot.
OR if Cline left Bowler could take that slot.
The key slots are the 'assoc head coach' slot that Mondro has and the vacant 'recruiting' coach.
Bowler doesn't fit either. And the other question does Bowler make more at WI-Mil than he would at EMU? (I assume so).
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - Bob Wickersham - 07-26-2020 08:01 AM
(07-24-2020 07:28 AM)emu79 Wrote: Last summer we got photos of the guys and coaches working out. Hopefully we do this year. Also I think Gibson should be a Jr on the roster and Pacheco a redshir t frosh.I really wish we would give more love/opportunities to our legacy athletes. Great players and great men, both. Btw, Bowler did a great job out here at DMACC--Des Moines Area Community College...provided a couple good players for us too: Brandon Nazione and Baylee Steele. Btw, Nazione is still making a living playing basketball--playing overseas in Portugese Basketball League. That is not a bad life.
Earl Boykins is now at Arkansas as player director and John Bowler Wisconsin Mil as an assistant.
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - Bob Wickersham - 07-26-2020 08:04 AM
(07-24-2020 08:54 PM)holybovine Wrote:Agree. Not sure what more he has to prove. Great EMU player, very good head coach at the junior college level, now D1 assistant. He obviously would have a deeper love and passion for his alma mater. Love and passion for the school you're coaching? What a concept!(07-24-2020 07:28 AM)emu79 Wrote: Last summer we got photos of the guys and coaches working out. Hopefully we do this year. Also I think Gibson should be a Jr on the roster and Pacheco a redshir t frosh.
Earl Boykins is now at Arkansas as player director and John Bowler Wisconsin Mil as an assistant.
I’d love it if Bowler makes his way back to Ypsilanti in the next five years...
RE: Men's Hoops Roster 20-21 - TheWoodenNickle - 07-26-2020 09:59 AM
(07-26-2020 08:04 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:I'm on board with this too. If he's ready to be a D1 HC then keep him in mind when the job opens up.(07-24-2020 08:54 PM)holybovine Wrote:Agree. Not sure what more he has to prove. Great EMU player, very good head coach at the junior college level, now D1 assistant. He obviously would have a deeper love and passion for his alma mater. Love and passion for the school your coaching? What a concept!(07-24-2020 07:28 AM)emu79 Wrote: Last summer we got photos of the guys and coaches working out. Hopefully we do this year. Also I think Gibson should be a Jr on the roster and Pacheco a redshir t frosh.
Earl Boykins is now at Arkansas as player director and John Bowler Wisconsin Mil as an assistant.
I’d love it if Bowler makes his way back to Ypsilanti in the next five years...