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WAC basketball week 5 - NMSUPistolPete - 12-04-2018 02:22 AM

Chicago State's Rob Shaw was named WAC Player of the Week.

Tomorrow (or today), NMSU plays UNM in the PAC. And, Cal State Bakersfield plays DII UC Merced.


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - RunnerBall - 12-04-2018 03:02 PM

Well...I hope we don't let UCM...hang around.
Yes, sarcasm.....but..I'm still peaved about the South Dakota game. That's the kind of winable games we must take!


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - NMSUPistolPete - 12-04-2018 04:15 PM

(12-04-2018 03:02 PM)RunnerBall Wrote:  Well...I hope we don't let UCM...hang around.
Yes, sarcasm.....but..I'm still peaved about the South Dakota game. That's the kind of winable games we must take!

Although Jarkel Joiner's numbers are up from his Freshman season, he seems to be in a Sophomore slump. I really expected more from him this season. Maybe as the season progresses, he will develop more scoring consistency.

Durham still puts up too many bad shots. He does hit some impressive "quick release" deep threes. But he misses so many shots in general, he put the offense at a disadvantage. He is not a very efficient player over the long haul.


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - SoCalBobcat78 - 12-04-2018 11:25 PM

New Mexico State crushes New Mexico, 100-65. Very impressive win!


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - NMSUPistolPete - 12-05-2018 12:37 AM

Yeah, Coach Jans is exacting revenge for Aggies Fans against Weir... the Traitor. Jans is 4-0 against UNM. JoJo Zamora had 27 points and was 6-6 from three point range. And, Ivan "the Great" had 23 points and 11 rebounds.


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - FINALFOUR1970SWEETSIXTEEN1992 - 12-05-2018 11:45 AM

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New Mexico State is just loaded.


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - Lopes87 - 12-05-2018 11:59 AM

Kansas center Udoka Azubuike out indefinitely after rolling ankle. Good news for NMSU.

also UNM gave up 198 points to NMSU in 2 games. Nicely done.


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - LopesUp - 12-05-2018 01:24 PM

Impressive win Aggies, crushing the traitor. That has to feel good. I don't see Weir lasting much past his contract expiration date.


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - NMSUPistolPete - 12-05-2018 02:30 PM

(12-05-2018 01:24 PM)LopesUp Wrote:  Impressive win Aggies, crushing the traitor. That has to feel good. I don't see Weir lasting much past his contract expiration date.

If he can't beat NMSU, he probably won't be around long. However, I do see a method to Weir's madness with the type of defense (and offense) he is trying to instill. And, there is a path to winning that way. But he needs to know his opposition and make adjustments accordingly. NMSU is a team that shouldn't be pressed. Our Aggie are simply too quick and have very good ball handlers. However, Weir "system" is not unlike Loyola Marymount of the 1990's; trying to make it a 94-foot game and speed up the decision process of the opponent; quick decision usually lead to bad passes, bad shots, and turnovers.

As this season progresses, we will see if the Traitor's team can bounce back. A year ago Weir's style gave the rest of the MWC fits. Now that the other MWC coaches have had time to absorb Weir's style of play, will they make adjustments? Will Weir make adjustments in turn?

Menzies won a lots of games by simple out recruiting his conference peers and lining up five more talented players than the opposition; basically he said my starting five is better than yours, try to beat us. That will work until you meet a team of equal (or great) talent. Then it comes down to coaching. Right now, Weir has stocked his roster with high D1 talent. In some games that will be enough to get him the win. However, he will need to learn how to "coach" them; not only in pregame practice but game situations if he his going to be better than his mentor (Menzies). I think Weir is a better coach than Menzies. The question is how much better? Because right now, he is falling well short of "the Grinder" Chris Jans.


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - gleadley - 12-05-2018 05:01 PM

(12-05-2018 02:30 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(12-05-2018 01:24 PM)LopesUp Wrote:  Impressive win Aggies, crushing the traitor. That has to feel good. I don't see Weir lasting much past his contract expiration date.

If he can't beat NMSU, he probably won't be around long. However, I do see a method to Weir's madness with the type of defense (and offense) he is trying to instill. And, there is a path to winning that way. But he needs to know his opposition and make adjustments accordingly. NMSU is a team that shouldn't be pressed. Our Aggie are simply too quick and have very good ball handlers. However, Weir "system" is not unlike Loyola Marymount of the 1990's; trying to make it a 94-foot game and speed up the decision process of the opponent; quick decision usually lead to bad passes, bad shots, and turnovers.

As this season progresses, we will see if the Traitor's team can bounce back. A year ago Weir's style gave the rest of the MWC fits. Now that the other MWC coaches have had time to absorb Weir's style of play, will they make adjustments? Will Weir make adjustments in turn?

Menzies won a lots of games by simple out recruiting his conference peers and lining up five more talented players than the opposition; basically he said my starting five is better than yours, try to beat us. That will work until you meet a team of equal (or great) talent. Then it comes down to coaching. Right now, Weir has stocked his roster with high D1 talent. In some games that will be enough to get him the win. However, he will need to learn how to "coach" them; not only in pregame practice but game situations if he his going to be better than his mentor (Menzies). I think Weir is a better coach than Menzies. The question is how much better? Because right now, he is falling well short of "the Grinder" Chris Jans.

Aggies are fun to watch, and I really love the cuts to Jans. I don't know if it is because he CLEARLY holds his players to the highest standards, or because he always looks like he is growling. Whatever he's doing, it is working and NMSU is rolling.


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - Vaqueronation - 12-05-2018 06:28 PM

(12-05-2018 11:59 AM)Lopes87 Wrote:  Kansas center Udoka Azubuike out indefinitely after rolling ankle. Good news for NMSU.

What does one have to do with the other?
Ahh nvm I see they play kansas next.


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - NeptunianEmp - 12-05-2018 08:22 PM

UTRGV getting off to a good start against North Dakota. They look like an improved team this year and might make some trouble during conference play.


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - NMSUPistolPete - 12-05-2018 08:46 PM

UTRGV has normally had a good offense. But they are playing defense now. Hill might actually turn the Vaqueros into a competitive program.


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - DoubleRSU - 12-05-2018 10:39 PM

WAC will win the Slummit challenge. Winning 5 to 2 right now.


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - NeptunianEmp - 12-05-2018 11:02 PM

(12-05-2018 10:39 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  WAC will win the Slummit challenge. Winning 5 to 2 right now.

Is there any trophy or something like that for winning?


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - DoubleRSU - 12-05-2018 11:24 PM

Winner gets a number 15 seed in the tournament!


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - NMSUPistolPete - 12-05-2018 11:46 PM

Cal Baptist is hanging with UC Irvine. Down only two with less than four minute to play. They are going to be tough to beat in their arena.


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - NMSUPistolPete - 12-06-2018 12:10 AM

Cal Baptist falls short by 3 to UC Irvine (66-69). But the Lancers are competitive for a 1st year D1 program.


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - SoCalBobcat78 - 12-06-2018 01:22 AM

(12-06-2018 12:10 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Cal Baptist falls short by 3 to UC Irvine (66-69). But the Lancers are competitive for a 1st year D1 program.

It was a great game. CBU could never get the lead in the 2nd half, but it was tied a number of times. They missed two three pointers in the last ten seconds that would have tied the game.

CBU competes, they play hard and they contest everything. They play good team defense. They help a lot on defense. UCI had better talent, although Milan Acquaah is very good. CBU will eventually get better.

The attendance was 2,833. I am not sure why the attendance was not better, but it is a cold, rainy night in Riverside. The arena is terrific, not a bad seat in the house. It took me 15 minutes from my driveway to the parking lot on campus.


RE: WAC basketball week 5 - Lopes87 - 12-06-2018 10:35 AM

(12-06-2018 01:22 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(12-06-2018 12:10 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Cal Baptist falls short by 3 to UC Irvine (66-69). But the Lancers are competitive for a 1st year D1 program.

It was a great game. CBU could never get the lead in the 2nd half, but it was tied a number of times. They missed two three pointers in the last ten seconds that would have tied the game.

CBU competes, they play hard and they contest everything. They play good team defense. They help a lot on defense. UCI had better talent, although Milan Acquaah is very good. CBU will eventually get better.

The attendance was 2,833. I am not sure why the attendance was not better, but it is a cold, rainy night in Riverside. The arena is terrific, not a bad seat in the house. It took me 15 minutes from my driveway to the parking lot on campus.

Outside their Nevada lost of 35 the other 4 L's they have are by a combined 18 points. They will be a nice challenge for most in the WAC this year.