(03-15-2024 04:45 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 04:07 PM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 03:55 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Penny won't go until we know Laurie is cool with it. Can't afford to lose him again

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100%

Just part of the financial malpractice of RCJ. Dude should have a bullet in the head

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The Lauries didn't give a dime to the U of M before RC arrived.

Everything went to Missouri.

RC left the program in far better shape financially than it was in when he arrived.

You're pissed because he made the call that should've been made 5 years earlier.

Today we find ourselves in the exact same situation.

Program being destroyed by a former player and no one is willing to make a move because he is a former star player.

(03-15-2024 01:44 PM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 01:27 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 01:21 PM)Rufus T. Firefly Wrote:  Letting go of a former player turned coach can be done. I just felt it was similar enough to our situation to post. Ex player, a little baggage on the side, unsatisfactory results, etc.

Howard had a horrible year. 8-20 something. And the last two seasons before this year Michigan was barely .500. That's an easy call. Penny on the other hand has always been well beyond .500. Every year he has 20+ wins. Howard is in the stronger conference, but still, not comparable IMO.

Right, and dude straight up punched another coach and rumored to have punched a staff member. Penny has earned at least one more year to "right the ship" IMO.

He was hired to do that, SIX years ago...

(03-15-2024 07:40 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 04:45 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 04:07 PM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 03:55 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Penny won't go until we know Laurie is cool with it. Can't afford to lose him again

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100%

Just part of the financial malpractice of RCJ. Dude should have a bullet in the head

Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk

The Lauries didn't give a dime to the U of M before RC arrived.

Everything went to Missouri.

RC left the program in far better shape financially than it was in when he arrived.

You're pissed because he made the call that should've been made 5 years earlier.

Today we find ourselves in the exact same situation.

Program being destroyed by a former player and no one is willing to make a movie because he is a former star player.

Wait, they made a movie about Finch??

(03-15-2024 08:30 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 07:40 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 04:45 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 04:07 PM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 03:55 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Penny won't go until we know Laurie is cool with it. Can't afford to lose him again

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100%

Just part of the financial malpractice of RCJ. Dude should have a bullet in the head

Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk

The Lauries didn't give a dime to the U of M before RC arrived.

Everything went to Missouri.

RC left the program in far better shape financially than it was in when he arrived.

You're pissed because he made the call that should've been made 5 years earlier.

Today we find ourselves in the exact same situation.

Program being destroyed by a former player and no one is willing to make a movie because he is a former star player.

Wait, they made a movie about Finch??

Nascar loves him some RC and some Josh

FYI Brad Martin is who got Laurie to donate NOT RC. I’m not as big of a RC hater as most on here but Laurie blamed him for Finch when in reality that was all Lane Rawlins

(03-15-2024 01:27 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 01:21 PM)Rufus T. Firefly Wrote:  Letting go of a former player turned coach can be done. I just felt it was similar enough to our situation to post. Ex player, a little baggage on the side, unsatisfactory results, etc.

Howard had a horrible year. 8-20 something. And the last two seasons before this year Michigan was barely .500. That's an easy call. Penny on the other hand has always been well beyond .500. Every year he has 20+ wins. Howard is in the stronger conference, but still, not comparable IMO.

In 5 years, Howard took Michigan to an Elite 8 & Sweet 16.

(03-18-2024 08:11 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 08:30 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 07:40 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 04:45 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 04:07 PM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  100%

Just part of the financial malpractice of RCJ. Dude should have a bullet in the head

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The Lauries didn't give a dime to the U of M before RC arrived.

Everything went to Missouri.

RC left the program in far better shape financially than it was in when he arrived.

You're pissed because he made the call that should've been made 5 years earlier.

Today we find ourselves in the exact same situation.

Program being destroyed by a former player and no one is willing to make a movie because he is a former star player.

Wait, they made a movie about Finch??

Nascar loves him some RC and some Josh

FYI Brad Martin is who got Laurie to donate NOT RC. I’m not as big of a RC hater as most on here but Laurie blamed him for Finch when in reality that was all Lane Rawlins

WOW you are lacking in the area of reading comprehension.

Do you purposely ignore what is actually posted and see only what you want to see?

NEVER said or insinuated in any way shape or form that RC got the Lauries to donate to the school.

Just stated that the Lauries never donated anything in the past.

Even though too many make the claim that the firing of Finch was the reason.

They never donated to the school before the firing of Finch.

If Brad Martin wasn't a personal friend they likely still wouldn't be donating today.

So the Lauries shouldn't be a factor when it comes to any decision on Penny's future.

(03-18-2024 09:13 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 08:11 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 08:30 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 07:40 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 04:45 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Just part of the financial malpractice of RCJ. Dude should have a bullet in the head

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The Lauries didn't give a dime to the U of M before RC arrived.

Everything went to Missouri.

RC left the program in far better shape financially than it was in when he arrived.

You're pissed because he made the call that should've been made 5 years earlier.

Today we find ourselves in the exact same situation.

Program being destroyed by a former player and no one is willing to make a movie because he is a former star player.

Wait, they made a movie about Finch??

Nascar loves him some RC and some Josh

FYI Brad Martin is who got Laurie to donate NOT RC. I’m not as big of a RC hater as most on here but Laurie blamed him for Finch when in reality that was all Lane Rawlins

WOW you are lacking in the area of reading comprehension.

Do you purposely ignore what is actually posted and see only what you want to see?

NEVER said or insinuated in any way shape or form that RC got the Lauries to donate to the school.

Just stated that the Lauries never donated anything in the past.

Even though too many make the claim that the firing of Finch was the reason.

They never donated to the school before the firing of Finch.

If Brad Martin wasn't a personal friend they likely still wouldn't be donating today.

So the Lauries shouldn't be a factor when it comes to any decision on Penny's future.

So basically piss off our best booster and hire or fire a coach. Now who is really the dumb***. We ain’t an SEC school we don’t have the money. To even fire Tubby we had to get his ok. Or is your fat ass going to write a check to do it ? Once again your agenda is obvious. Go pull for Rice

(03-18-2024 09:13 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 08:11 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 08:30 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 07:40 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 04:45 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Just part of the financial malpractice of RCJ. Dude should have a bullet in the head

Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk

The Lauries didn't give a dime to the U of M before RC arrived.

Everything went to Missouri.

RC left the program in far better shape financially than it was in when he arrived.

You're pissed because he made the call that should've been made 5 years earlier.

Today we find ourselves in the exact same situation.

Program being destroyed by a former player and no one is willing to make a movie because he is a former star player.

Wait, they made a movie about Finch??

Nascar loves him some RC and some Josh

FYI Brad Martin is who got Laurie to donate NOT RC. I’m not as big of a RC hater as most on here but Laurie blamed him for Finch when in reality that was all Lane Rawlins

WOW you are lacking in the area of reading comprehension.

Do you purposely ignore what is actually posted and see only what you want to see?

NEVER said or insinuated in any way shape or form that RC got the Lauries to donate to the school.

Just stated that the Lauries never donated anything in the past.

Even though too many make the claim that the firing of Finch was the reason.

They never donated to the school before the firing of Finch.

If Brad Martin wasn't a personal friend they likely still wouldn't be donating today.

So the Lauries shouldn't be a factor when it comes to any decision on Penny's future.

Soooo in an era of the have and have-nots getting farther apart Memphis, most definitely a have-not, should alienate not only our two richest alumni but two of the richest mofos in this country because why Dirt Track? I'm sure you're open to help cover the loss when they deuce out? Maybe raise your donation 100% which would make it what, a full $1?

(03-18-2024 09:00 AM)2021 Tiger Football!! Wrote:  He was a disaster.

He is another example of a former player who was given waaaaaay too much leeway because he was a former player.

(03-18-2024 09:34 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:00 AM)2021 Tiger Football!! Wrote:  He was a disaster.

He is another example of a former player who was given waaaaaay too much leeway because he was a former player.

He won 8 games this season. Penny won the AAC title last year beating the number 1 team in the finals. Apples and oranges. Penny deserves a years leeway. If he has a bad year next year then the boosters or main booster will look that the situation . We are made out of money like Michigan. Reading comprehension?

(03-18-2024 09:31 AM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:13 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 08:11 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 08:30 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 07:40 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  The Lauries didn't give a dime to the U of M before RC arrived.

Everything went to Missouri.

RC left the program in far better shape financially than it was in when he arrived.

You're pissed because he made the call that should've been made 5 years earlier.

Today we find ourselves in the exact same situation.

Program being destroyed by a former player and no one is willing to make a movie because he is a former star player.

Wait, they made a movie about Finch??

Nascar loves him some RC and some Josh

FYI Brad Martin is who got Laurie to donate NOT RC. I’m not as big of a RC hater as most on here but Laurie blamed him for Finch when in reality that was all Lane Rawlins

WOW you are lacking in the area of reading comprehension.

Do you purposely ignore what is actually posted and see only what you want to see?

NEVER said or insinuated in any way shape or form that RC got the Lauries to donate to the school.

Just stated that the Lauries never donated anything in the past.

Even though too many make the claim that the firing of Finch was the reason.

They never donated to the school before the firing of Finch.

If Brad Martin wasn't a personal friend they likely still wouldn't be donating today.

So the Lauries shouldn't be a factor when it comes to any decision on Penny's future.

Soooo in an era of the have and have-nots getting farther apart Memphis, most definitely a have-not, should alienate not only our two richest alumni but two of the richest mofos in this country because why Dirt Track? I'm sure you're open to help cover the loss when they deuce out? Maybe raise your donation 100% which would make it what, a full $1?

They graduated 50 years ago and except for a very brief period where Brad Martin was in control they never donated a dime.

So we cater to them forever because of a one time donation.

(03-18-2024 10:22 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:34 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:00 AM)2021 Tiger Football!! Wrote:  He was a disaster.

He is another example of a former player who was given waaaaaay too much leeway because he was a former player.

He won 8 games this season. Penny won the AAC title last year beating the number 1 team in the finals. Apples and oranges. Penny deserves a years leeway. If he has a bad year next year then the boosters or main booster will look that the situation . We are made out of money like Michigan. Reading comprehension?

Seems that you left out the fact that Marcus Sasser, the AAC player of the year, went out during semi final game and didn't play in finals

(03-18-2024 10:32 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:31 AM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:13 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 08:11 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 08:30 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Wait, they made a movie about Finch??

Nascar loves him some RC and some Josh

FYI Brad Martin is who got Laurie to donate NOT RC. I’m not as big of a RC hater as most on here but Laurie blamed him for Finch when in reality that was all Lane Rawlins

WOW you are lacking in the area of reading comprehension.

Do you purposely ignore what is actually posted and see only what you want to see?

NEVER said or insinuated in any way shape or form that RC got the Lauries to donate to the school.

Just stated that the Lauries never donated anything in the past.

Even though too many make the claim that the firing of Finch was the reason.

They never donated to the school before the firing of Finch.

If Brad Martin wasn't a personal friend they likely still wouldn't be donating today.

So the Lauries shouldn't be a factor when it comes to any decision on Penny's future.

Soooo in an era of the have and have-nots getting farther apart Memphis, most definitely a have-not, should alienate not only our two richest alumni but two of the richest mofos in this country because why Dirt Track? I'm sure you're open to help cover the loss when they deuce out? Maybe raise your donation 100% which would make it what, a full $1?

They graduated 50 years ago and except for a very brief period where Brad Martin was in control they never donated a dime.

So we cater to them forever because of a one time donation.

If they are going to continue being the primary donor then absolutely...

(03-18-2024 09:34 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:00 AM)2021 Tiger Football!! Wrote:  He was a disaster.

He is another example of a former player who was given waaaaaay too much leeway because he was a former player.

Again, he was at Michigan one year less than Penny has been at Memphis. In those 5 years, he has a Sweet 16 & an Elite 8… yet he was a disaster?

(03-18-2024 10:32 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:31 AM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:13 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 08:11 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-15-2024 08:30 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Wait, they made a movie about Finch??

Nascar loves him some RC and some Josh

FYI Brad Martin is who got Laurie to donate NOT RC. I’m not as big of a RC hater as most on here but Laurie blamed him for Finch when in reality that was all Lane Rawlins

WOW you are lacking in the area of reading comprehension.

Do you purposely ignore what is actually posted and see only what you want to see?

NEVER said or insinuated in any way shape or form that RC got the Lauries to donate to the school.

Just stated that the Lauries never donated anything in the past.

Even though too many make the claim that the firing of Finch was the reason.

They never donated to the school before the firing of Finch.

If Brad Martin wasn't a personal friend they likely still wouldn't be donating today.

So the Lauries shouldn't be a factor when it comes to any decision on Penny's future.

Soooo in an era of the have and have-nots getting farther apart Memphis, most definitely a have-not, should alienate not only our two richest alumni but two of the richest mofos in this country because why Dirt Track? I'm sure you're open to help cover the loss when they deuce out? Maybe raise your donation 100% which would make it what, a full $1?

They graduated 50 years ago and except for a very brief period where Brad Martin was in control they never donated a dime.

So we cater to them forever because of a one time donation.

When that one time donation is the biggest ever, as in EVER, received by the Athletic Department? Um, quite simply, hell yes. I mean, you've got to be trolling. Also, you didn't answer how much you were going to donate to make up for running them off?

(03-18-2024 11:09 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:34 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:00 AM)2021 Tiger Football!! Wrote:  He was a disaster.

He is another example of a former player who was given waaaaaay too much leeway because he was a former player.

Again, he was at Michigan one year less than Penny has been at Memphis. In those 5 years, he has a Sweet 16 & an Elite 8… yet he was a disaster? Penny has 1 NCAA win and isn’t?

You honestly think the Memphis program right now is a disaster?

(03-18-2024 11:17 AM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:09 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:34 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:00 AM)2021 Tiger Football!! Wrote:  He was a disaster.

He is another example of a former player who was given waaaaaay too much leeway because he was a former player.

Again, he was at Michigan one year less than Penny has been at Memphis. In those 5 years, he has a Sweet 16 & an Elite 8… yet he was a disaster? Penny has 1 NCAA win and isn’t?

You honestly think the Memphis program right now is a disaster?

It was on the comeback trail until this past season

(03-18-2024 11:17 AM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:09 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:34 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:00 AM)2021 Tiger Football!! Wrote:  He was a disaster.

He is another example of a former player who was given waaaaaay too much leeway because he was a former player.

Again, he was at Michigan one year less than Penny has been at Memphis. In those 5 years, he has a Sweet 16 & an Elite 8… yet he was a disaster? Penny has 1 NCAA win and isn’t?

You honestly think the Memphis program right now is a disaster?

Its in no better shape than Michigan’s.
Its not like we have squat coming back next year & will again depend on another dysfunctional cast of portal misfits.

Howard had actual coaching successes to hang his hat upon. I’m not saying Michigan didn’t need to part ways with him, but he was more successful at Michigan than Penny had been at Memphis.

(03-18-2024 11:20 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:17 AM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:09 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:34 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:00 AM)2021 Tiger Football!! Wrote:  He was a disaster.

He is another example of a former player who was given waaaaaay too much leeway because he was a former player.

Again, he was at Michigan one year less than Penny has been at Memphis. In those 5 years, he has a Sweet 16 & an Elite 8… yet he was a disaster? Penny has 1 NCAA win and isn’t?

You honestly think the Memphis program right now is a disaster?

It was on the comeback trail until this past season

I tend to agree. I 100% agree this season was a major disappointment and honestly unacceptable but I wouldn't say the program is at a "disaster" level, yet.

If he struggles on recruiting trail this offseason and next year is not a marked improvement then I think at that point you've slipped into danger mode.

(03-18-2024 11:28 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:17 AM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:09 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:34 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 09:00 AM)2021 Tiger Football!! Wrote:  He was a disaster.

He is another example of a former player who was given waaaaaay too much leeway because he was a former player.

Again, he was at Michigan one year less than Penny has been at Memphis. In those 5 years, he has a Sweet 16 & an Elite 8… yet he was a disaster? Penny has 1 NCAA win and isn’t?

You honestly think the Memphis program right now is a disaster?

Its in no better shape than Michigan’s.
Its not like we have squat coming back next year & will again depend on another dysfunctional cast of portal misfits.

Howard had actual coaching successes to hang his hat upon. I’m not saying Michigan didn’t need to part ways with him, but he was more successful at Michigan than Penny had been at Memphis.

Well Michigan has a B10 bank account and conference schedule to fall back on so I agree with you there. I also agree he has to bust his butt this offseason recruiting. Not only getting high level guys but recruiting strategically at the same time.

You're predicting a disaster but to Penny's credit until this year he's put together squads that, if nothing else, play hard and compete. This was his freebie year IMO and if he doesn't have some level of post-season success next year then you've got to start the conversation of next moves.