(01-07-2024 11:00 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(01-06-2024 09:29 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-06-2024 09:13 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(01-06-2024 09:08 PM)Outsider Wrote:  1) That was one of the biggest slugfest dogfights I have seen in a long time. 2) The refs need to be fired from the NCAA, agree with RC, they were one of the worst crews I have seen on both sides. That no call with the foot though is beyond reprehensible. The game should have never gone to OT as the entire last 3pt play in regulation was illegal. 3) Nothing bad to say about UTRGV, they actually played the better game tonight. They really outplayed us all night for the most part. We just wouldn't go away and got lucky at the very end.

How the refs didn’t see that ridiculous inbound play by UTRGV is an abomination. We saw slot of the same head-scratching ballyhoo 2 nights ago in the Ville. It’s like these refs are in LaLaLand down the stretch when their training and skill matters most.

Start deducting their pay...

If RGV would’ve actually won the game on that (non-reviewable) play instead of just sending it into OT…or if ACU didn’t still end up winning the game, I have to believe somebody (everybody) actually loses their J-O-B, not just a little pay! It’s bad.

It was literally that bad, and reviewing the timeclock on a play that was illegal/illegitimate to begin with, while saying the play that started the whole thing isn't reviewable is ASININE. How do you review a nonreviewable play while saying the play that started it is non reviewable? Yes I know what I said is word salad, but that just proves my whole point...

I know everyone knows we aren't talking about who won or lost the game at this point, but the lack of accountability or faculty of common sense by officiating crews, the NCAA or the WAC. Because I promise that ZERO will be said or come of this by the WAC or the NCAA.

(01-06-2024 08:21 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  Seattle U beats Cal Baptist on a buzzer beating tip in by Alex Schumacher to save an otherwise ugly game. Gotta be honest though, I really don't think the ball was out of his hand when the buzzer went off. Officials reviewed it for about 5 minutes but the call stood

When I saw the play live, I didn’t think it was out of his hand. After watching numerous replays, I still don’t think the ball was out of his hand. I have seen several replies on X/Twitter and nobody has posted they think it was a good shot. Game should have gone to OT.

(01-07-2024 12:41 PM)Outsider Wrote:  I know everyone knows we aren't talking about who won or lost the game at this point, but the lack of accountability or faculty of common sense by officiating crews, the NCAA or the WAC. Because I promise that ZERO will be said or come of this by the WAC or the NCAA.

You’re imagining things and playing the victim. It’s just Basketball, man. Teams are gonna go on runs. Just look at what UTA did to Oral Roberts.

(01-07-2024 06:45 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(01-07-2024 12:41 PM)Outsider Wrote:  I know everyone knows we aren't talking about who won or lost the game at this point, but the lack of accountability or faculty of common sense by officiating crews, the NCAA or the WAC. Because I promise that ZERO will be said or come of this by the WAC or the NCAA.

You’re imagining things and playing the victim. It’s just Basketball, man. Teams are gonna go on runs. Just look at what UTA did to Oral Roberts.

Hugh????

(01-07-2024 06:45 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(01-07-2024 12:41 PM)Outsider Wrote:  I know everyone knows we aren't talking about who won or lost the game at this point, but the lack of accountability or faculty of common sense by officiating crews, the NCAA or the WAC. Because I promise that ZERO will be said or come of this by the WAC or the NCAA.

You’re imagining things and playing the victim. It’s just Basketball, man. Teams are gonna go on runs. Just look at what UTA did to Oral Roberts.

According to you, this non-call was by a crew that was looking for vengeance against the team that actually did commit the foul.

In fact the refs hated Tarleton so much, they allowed this non-call to make the player miss the remainder of the game and all of the next.

For a point of clarification. UTA had 16 total fouls, Tarleton 21. Two Tarleton players accounted for 9 of the 21.The other six players who logged minutes accounted for 12, or two each.

TSU is averaging 17 fouls a game. Against DI competition, it is just over 18. In all three WAC games the exact average is....bum bum BUM.....21!

Tarleton exceeded 21 fouls against Virginia (28), UNT-Dallas (22), UTRGV (23) and Tennessee (22). Jacksonville St was right behind at 20.

If you are going to say Tarleton was targeted by the mean refs because ...reasons, then you'd better having something that doesn't fall in line within the statistical mean to back it. Otherwise, it looks like pure homerism.

ACU and UTRGV would have something to back up that, for example. I provided a non-call in favor of Tarleton as an example. You provided nothing but opinion.

Well, so far after 4 conference games:

2023-24 Men's Basketball Standings

GCU 4-0
TSU 3-0
SFA 3-1
UVU 3-1
SU 3-1
UT 2-2
ACU 1-2
CBU 1-3
UTA 1-3
SUU 0-4
UTRGV 0-4

As much as I like to enjoy our win, we are going to have a tough 3 game stretch on the road coming up. First is GCU in Phoenix, then CBU in Riverside, before circling back to Tarleton in Stephenville. If we were playing CBU at home I might feel more comfortable coming out of that trip 1-2. As it is, we could very well end up 1-5 in conference afterwards. My ask for us was that we learn how to finish a game. We accomplished that last Saturday against UTRGV. UTRGV led most of the game, but we kept hanging in. We finally swapped back and forth a couple of times in the 2nd half, but we never let UTRGV get any real momentum against us again. Even with bad calls, we won. Who knows, maybe that will mentally help us turn a corner....

(01-07-2024 11:59 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  For a point of clarification. UTA had 16 total fouls, Tarleton 21. Two Tarleton players accounted for 9 of the 21.The other six players who logged minutes accounted for 12, or two each.

TSU is averaging 17 fouls a game. Against DI competition, it is just over 18. In all three WAC games the exact average is....bum bum BUM.....21!

Tarleton exceeded 21 fouls against Virginia (28), UNT-Dallas (22), UTRGV (23) and Tennessee (22). Jacksonville St was right behind at 20.

If you are going to say Tarleton was targeted by the mean refs because ...reasons, then you'd better having something that doesn't fall in line within the statistical mean to back it. Otherwise, it looks like pure homerism.

ACU and UTRGV would have something to back up that, for example. I provided a non-call in favor of Tarleton as an example. You provided nothing but opinion.

Sloppy. Read what I said, and you’ll see nothing was mentioned about FOULS. Tarleton leads the world in fouls. Fouls are our friend! It’s what we do. We scratch, and we claw, and we foul. At least two players foul out of every game. But with those fouls, we also manage to get a turnover or two…or twenty. Dude, when your starting Center is 6’5 and leads the league in rebounds come talk to me about fouls. That chicken sh*t little love tap you showed is just par for the course when you play Tarleton. UTA came into the game thinking they could play our style of ball and your guys ended up getting hurt. You’re not the first team to try it, bud!

Oh my bad. When you said "UTA brings their own refs to Stephenville" you meant they did everything they could except make bad calls, the thing they have the most direct control over. And by bringing "their own refs to Stephenville" you also meant that the refs give a blatant non-call on a play that injured one of the Mavs best scorers.

Got it.

RGV 81 Seattle 80 in OT.

Finally.

(01-11-2024 09:57 PM)edinburger Wrote:  RGV 81 Seattle 80 in OT.

Finally.

Wow! Good win RGV.

RGV has the players to be formidable for sure. They were scary good against ACU. You guys were certainly one of the fastest teams I have seen. Our Wildcats barely won after having one of our better games for a change. Good job in your OT win, really good.

(01-12-2024 05:37 PM)RCI Wrote:  RGV has the players to be formidable for sure. They were scary good against ACU. You guys were certainly one of the fastest teams I have seen. Our Wildcats barely won after having one of our better games for a change. Good job in your OT win, really good.

Thanks to you and wewererebels for your kinds remarks. I do think we're better than our record, and look decent on the court, but we're still not keeping up to the new WAC standard. Maybe if we get past UVU I'll start to hope.

And BTW, that WAC standard has gone way up now that GCU has taken over from NMSU as the "flagship" team. GCU is receiving significant votes in the national polls, can't remember the last time NMSU got to that level.

(01-12-2024 07:34 PM)edinburger Wrote:  

(01-12-2024 05:37 PM)RCI Wrote:  RGV has the players to be formidable for sure. They were scary good against ACU. You guys were certainly one of the fastest teams I have seen. Our Wildcats barely won after having one of our better games for a change. Good job in your OT win, really good.

Thanks to you and wewererebels for your kinds remarks. I do think we're better than our record, and look decent on the court, but we're still not keeping up to the new WAC standard. Maybe if we get past UVU I'll start to hope.

And BTW, that WAC standard has gone way up now that GCU has taken over from NMSU as the "flagship" team. GCU is receiving significant votes in the national polls, can't remember the last time NMSU got to that level.

Was thinking about the WAC the other day. I know the WAC being a MUCH better top to bottom conference is one reason we don't do as well, on a regular basis, as we used to. I am ok with that as much as I gripe. I will never stop pushing our team to be on top. I have high expectations, but I am still very thankful to be in a conference that has elevated itself the way the WAC has.