If you look at the transfer QBs it’s going to be hard for anyone when even the top of the top are out here moving along.

(11-29-2023 07:34 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  If you look at the transfer QBs it’s going to be hard for anyone when even the top of the top are out here moving along.

As far as our options for transfer QB's....NIU is that guy still looking around well after the bar turns the music off, lights on and 3/4's of the girls have left the club.

(11-29-2023 07:54 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 07:34 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  If you look at the transfer QBs it’s going to be hard for anyone when even the top of the top are out here moving along.

As far as our options for transfer QB's....NIU is that guy still looking around well after the bar turns the music off, lights on and 3/4's of the girls have left the club.

Hammock is more aggressive this season - I am confident. The guys saw how it went last season, not everyone has a home.

I expect we will be able to get another fairly decent QB transfer. There are far more QBs who consider themselves D1 starters than open starting positions.

Overall we gave Lombardi a great opportunity, his career just didn’t build upon 2021 unfortunately mostly due to injuries. Another guy stuck on the bench will jump for such an opportunity. Especially since QB seems wide open next year and Hammock probably borderline promises a starting role to the right guy.

(11-29-2023 02:09 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 08:02 AM)HuskieJ Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 12:16 AM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(11-28-2023 11:59 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(11-28-2023 08:34 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Rudolph could go to UCF or South Florida, Cincinnati, Kansas, K-State and make close to 100K per year as a starter, I’m sure. At least 50K. Can’t blame him when he knows some kids making a lot of money playing at different schools…

No way. $100k for NIU’ perennial WR2?

He’s not getting anything close to that. That’s P5 QB money.

Absolutely correct, only WRs making $100k are No 1 receivers established at top P5 or 4/5 star recruits just signed. He will get a few thousand a month, which is a lot more than he got at NIU. You can check NIL tracking sites to see the amounts.

Beg to differ. I know of three instances of high schoolers in my area that are going to low level P5s/high G5s that aren't going to be starters and are going to pull $60K-$80K along with additional benefits (read: new mercedes-benz every year from dealer alumni, upscale apartments, fully furnished). These kids are DBs and OLs.

The NIL is a lot like your taxes. Theres what you declare and what you really make. A LOT going on behind the scenes.

Yup, the HS kids are being offered $60K, $70K, $80K + by the likes of top tier G5 schools.

(11-30-2023 08:48 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 02:09 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 08:02 AM)HuskieJ Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 12:16 AM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(11-28-2023 11:59 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  No way. $100k for NIU’ perennial WR2?

He’s not getting anything close to that. That’s P5 QB money.

Absolutely correct, only WRs making $100k are No 1 receivers established at top P5 or 4/5 star recruits just signed. He will get a few thousand a month, which is a lot more than he got at NIU. You can check NIL tracking sites to see the amounts.

Beg to differ. I know of three instances of high schoolers in my area that are going to low level P5s/high G5s that aren't going to be starters and are going to pull $60K-$80K along with additional benefits (read: new mercedes-benz every year from dealer alumni, upscale apartments, fully furnished). These kids are DBs and OLs.

The NIL is a lot like your taxes. Theres what you declare and what you really make. A LOT going on behind the scenes.

Yup, the HS kids are being offered $60K, $70K, $80K + by the likes of top tier G5 schools.

Put some names out there. All we hear is that the G5 schools are offering big cash. I do not believe it. With the move of schools to the B12 and ACC, there really are no deep pocket G5 schools left. After the next round of TV deals and Conference realignment, this will only get worse.

(11-30-2023 09:07 AM)HuskieJ Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 08:48 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 02:09 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 08:02 AM)HuskieJ Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 12:16 AM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  He’s not getting anything close to that. That’s P5 QB money.

Absolutely correct, only WRs making $100k are No 1 receivers established at top P5 or 4/5 star recruits just signed. He will get a few thousand a month, which is a lot more than he got at NIU. You can check NIL tracking sites to see the amounts.

Beg to differ. I know of three instances of high schoolers in my area that are going to low level P5s/high G5s that aren't going to be starters and are going to pull $60K-$80K along with additional benefits (read: new mercedes-benz every year from dealer alumni, upscale apartments, fully furnished). These kids are DBs and OLs.

The NIL is a lot like your taxes. Theres what you declare and what you really make. A LOT going on behind the scenes.

Yup, the HS kids are being offered $60K, $70K, $80K + by the likes of top tier G5 schools.

Put some names out there. All we hear is that the G5 schools are offering big cash. I do not believe it. With the move of schools to the B12 and ACC, there really are no deep pocket G5 schools left. After the next round of TV deals and Conference realignment, this will only get worse.

Hilarious that people who know nothing spout their nonsense. No one will advertise how much they are making to the world unless they have to. Even the Nebraska coach told his fans that he needs at least $2M for a top portal QB. Doesn't mean he's going to tell everyone how much he signed his next QB for. Get your own sources of information.

Also let's stop the lamenting over lost players. It's going to happen to every team. A G5 coach's goal should be to have his players make a lot of money at P5 schools. That means he won a lot of game and start over. One and done is the norm in college basketball. Successful G5 players making money at P5 is now the norm. Need to get used to it.

(11-30-2023 09:32 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 09:07 AM)HuskieJ Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 08:48 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 02:09 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 08:02 AM)HuskieJ Wrote:  Absolutely correct, only WRs making $100k are No 1 receivers established at top P5 or 4/5 star recruits just signed. He will get a few thousand a month, which is a lot more than he got at NIU. You can check NIL tracking sites to see the amounts.

Beg to differ. I know of three instances of high schoolers in my area that are going to low level P5s/high G5s that aren't going to be starters and are going to pull $60K-$80K along with additional benefits (read: new mercedes-benz every year from dealer alumni, upscale apartments, fully furnished). These kids are DBs and OLs.

The NIL is a lot like your taxes. Theres what you declare and what you really make. A LOT going on behind the scenes.

Yup, the HS kids are being offered $60K, $70K, $80K + by the likes of top tier G5 schools.

Put some names out there. All we hear is that the G5 schools are offering big cash. I do not believe it. With the move of schools to the B12 and ACC, there really are no deep pocket G5 schools left. After the next round of TV deals and Conference realignment, this will only get worse.

Hilarious that people who know nothing spout their nonsense. No one will advertise how much they are making to the world unless they have to. Even the Nebraska coach told his fans that he needs at least $2M for a top portal QB. Doesn't mean he's going to tell everyone how much he signed his next QB for. Get your own sources of information.

Nebraska isn't G5. And that doesn't say that he was actually paying that much for a QB. Just that he would have to, to get a top QB.

(11-30-2023 09:46 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 09:32 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 09:07 AM)HuskieJ Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 08:48 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 02:09 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  Beg to differ. I know of three instances of high schoolers in my area that are going to low level P5s/high G5s that aren't going to be starters and are going to pull $60K-$80K along with additional benefits (read: new mercedes-benz every year from dealer alumni, upscale apartments, fully furnished). These kids are DBs and OLs.

The NIL is a lot like your taxes. Theres what you declare and what you really make. A LOT going on behind the scenes.

Yup, the HS kids are being offered $60K, $70K, $80K + by the likes of top tier G5 schools.

Put some names out there. All we hear is that the G5 schools are offering big cash. I do not believe it. With the move of schools to the B12 and ACC, there really are no deep pocket G5 schools left. After the next round of TV deals and Conference realignment, this will only get worse.

Hilarious that people who know nothing spout their nonsense. No one will advertise how much they are making to the world unless they have to. Even the Nebraska coach told his fans that he needs at least $2M for a top portal QB. Doesn't mean he's going to tell everyone how much he signed his next QB for. Get your own sources of information.

Nebraska isn't G5. And that doesn't say that he was actually paying that much for a QB. Just that he would have to, to get a top QB.

Where in my comment does it say Nebraska is G5?????

(11-30-2023 10:34 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 09:46 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 09:32 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 09:07 AM)HuskieJ Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 08:48 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Yup, the HS kids are being offered $60K, $70K, $80K + by the likes of top tier G5 schools.

Put some names out there. All we hear is that the G5 schools are offering big cash. I do not believe it. With the move of schools to the B12 and ACC, there really are no deep pocket G5 schools left. After the next round of TV deals and Conference realignment, this will only get worse.

Hilarious that people who know nothing spout their nonsense. No one will advertise how much they are making to the world unless they have to. Even the Nebraska coach told his fans that he needs at least $2M for a top portal QB. Doesn't mean he's going to tell everyone how much he signed his next QB for. Get your own sources of information.

Nebraska isn't G5. And that doesn't say that he was actually paying that much for a QB. Just that he would have to, to get a top QB.

Where in my comment does it say Nebraska is G5?????

God's plan

(11-30-2023 10:34 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 09:46 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 09:32 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 09:07 AM)HuskieJ Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 08:48 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Yup, the HS kids are being offered $60K, $70K, $80K + by the likes of top tier G5 schools.

Put some names out there. All we hear is that the G5 schools are offering big cash. I do not believe it. With the move of schools to the B12 and ACC, there really are no deep pocket G5 schools left. After the next round of TV deals and Conference realignment, this will only get worse.

Hilarious that people who know nothing spout their nonsense. No one will advertise how much they are making to the world unless they have to. Even the Nebraska coach told his fans that he needs at least $2M for a top portal QB. Doesn't mean he's going to tell everyone how much he signed his next QB for. Get your own sources of information.

Nebraska isn't G5. And that doesn't say that he was actually paying that much for a QB. Just that he would have to, to get a top QB.

Where in my comment does it say Nebraska is G5?????

The previous comment referred to G5 schools not having the money to give out and to give some names. You mentioned Nebraska talking big money and I was trying to figure out what that had to do with G5 teams not giving out big money.

(11-30-2023 09:32 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 09:07 AM)HuskieJ Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 08:48 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 02:09 PM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(11-29-2023 08:02 AM)HuskieJ Wrote:  Absolutely correct, only WRs making $100k are No 1 receivers established at top P5 or 4/5 star recruits just signed. He will get a few thousand a month, which is a lot more than he got at NIU. You can check NIL tracking sites to see the amounts.

Beg to differ. I know of three instances of high schoolers in my area that are going to low level P5s/high G5s that aren't going to be starters and are going to pull $60K-$80K along with additional benefits (read: new mercedes-benz every year from dealer alumni, upscale apartments, fully furnished). These kids are DBs and OLs.

The NIL is a lot like your taxes. Theres what you declare and what you really make. A LOT going on behind the scenes.

Yup, the HS kids are being offered $60K, $70K, $80K + by the likes of top tier G5 schools.

Put some names out there. All we hear is that the G5 schools are offering big cash. I do not believe it. With the move of schools to the B12 and ACC, there really are no deep pocket G5 schools left. After the next round of TV deals and Conference realignment, this will only get worse.

Hilarious that people who know nothing spout their nonsense. No one will advertise how much they are making to the world unless they have to. Even the Nebraska coach told his fans that he needs at least $2M for a top portal QB. Doesn't mean he's going to tell everyone how much he signed his next QB for. Get your own sources of information.

You seem to be good at spouting nonsense. Put up or shut up.

Bottom line is that Michigan and Georgia can only sign so many players, and NIU and Colorado State get to choose from the rest. Assuming Michigan already has "first choice" of QB's lets say, does it become more "first" if they also cough up 500k in NIL $ to that player?

Does this make sense? I'd like to procure some decent NIL $ for NIU student athletes of course but feel like we're getting the same high end athletes, even if Florida State starts flashing around larger NIL payments than us. They can only lock down 125 players, then the rest are up for grabs as always.

Why would I put anyone else’s finances out there? These are HS kids/college kids. LOL

I have no idea where most G5 schools stand when it comes to NIL, but even at the P5 level not all programs are created equal. For example, South Carolina’s NIL collectives can match almost any top tier NIL deal, but only for a handful of players. Whereas a school like Texas A&M does not have such an issue.

Schools like Virginia Tech and NC State are throwing around their top deals to 4 star athletes that would generally end up at mid-tier SEC schools like South Carolina.

It’s hard to get exact numbers of deals unless the athletes are willing to disclose them. Spencer Rattler made in the neighborhood of $2 mil this season, so Matt Rhule wasn’t far off with his comments on how much a good QB now costs at the P5 level.

(11-30-2023 09:04 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Why would I put anyone else’s finances out there? These are HS kids/college kids. LOL

It kind of sounds like you're stating something as fact (HS players being offered 5 or 6 digit NIL deals) but also say their finances shouldn't be public knowledge indicating you don't have actual facts other than rumors and here-say supporting your claim.

(11-30-2023 09:45 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Also let's stop the lamenting over lost players. It's going to happen to every team. A G5 coach's goal should be to have his players make a lot of money at P5 schools. That means he won a lot of game and start over. One and done is the norm in college basketball. Successful G5 players making money at P5 is now the norm. Need to get used to it.

Yep. Schools like us are proving grounds for players who missed out on NIL deals, if they do well with us they are gone next year. So there’s much more movement now, and the coaches have to be quick talent evaluators, there’s even more pressure on that skill than 5 years ago.

(12-01-2023 12:03 AM)NIU84 Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 09:45 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Also let's stop the lamenting over lost players. It's going to happen to every team. A G5 coach's goal should be to have his players make a lot of money at P5 schools. That means he won a lot of game and start over. One and done is the norm in college basketball. Successful G5 players making money at P5 is now the norm. Need to get used to it.

Yep. Schools like us are proving grounds for players who missed out on NIL deals, if they do well with us they are gone next year. So there’s much more movement now, and the coaches have to be quick talent evaluators, there’s even more pressure on that skill than 5 years ago.

Are they? Has it happened? Even once?

Like what are we talking about here? Our transfers from our team weren’t anything - outside of cox and Waylee did anyone even play serious minutes?

(12-01-2023 12:08 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(12-01-2023 12:03 AM)NIU84 Wrote:  

(11-30-2023 09:45 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Also let's stop the lamenting over lost players. It's going to happen to every team. A G5 coach's goal should be to have his players make a lot of money at P5 schools. That means he won a lot of game and start over. One and done is the norm in college basketball. Successful G5 players making money at P5 is now the norm. Need to get used to it.

Yep. Schools like us are proving grounds for players who missed out on NIL deals, if they do well with us they are gone next year. So there’s much more movement now, and the coaches have to be quick talent evaluators, there’s even more pressure on that skill than 5 years ago.

Are they? Has it happened? Even once?

Like what are we talking about here? Our transfers from our team weren’t anything - outside of cox and Waylee did anyone even play serious minutes?

Eric Rogers was a starter for Rutgers. Rayner didn’t play a lot but I bet he got NIL money at Kentucky. I get your point overall but we just named 4 would be returning starters. That’s not nothing.

I guess Waylee and Rogers had zero to do with NIL so again your point isn’t really wrong.