(10-04-2023 01:00 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  You said Trump and embarrassed in the same sentence.

Yes, McCarthy was Trump's man and said nice things about him.

Not my point.

McCarthy couldn't lead a sex addict to a whorehouse.

But republicans are worse off after this.

They don't have any good leaders. Jim Jordan is vocal but a dummy.

What they need to do is to unite around a set of ideas, like Newt's Contract. The problem is that the only two ideas that they seem to be able to muster any passion about are anti-abortion and anti-gay-rights. And those are both loser issues. Republican extremism on those two issues has allowed left-wing extremism to proliferate to the extent that we are now arguing over pronouns, bathrooms, athletic competitions, grooming, and killing babies as they start to make their way down the birth canal. Way, way outside any "normal" realm of discussion on either issue. Advocating a moderate position on those issues would allow them to win elections and move the needle back to sanity.

(10-04-2023 01:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  McCarthy couldn't lead a sex addict to a whorehouse.

But republicans are worse off after this.

They don't have any good leaders. Jim Jordan is vocal but a dummy.

What they need to do is to unite around a set of ideas, like Newt's Contract. The problem is that the only two ideas that they seem to be able to muster any passion about are anti-abortion and anti-gay-rights. And those are both loser issues. Republican extremism on those two issues has allowed left-wing extremism to proliferate to the extent that we are now arguing over pronouns, bathrooms, athletic competitions, grooming, and killing babies as they start to make their way down the birth canal. Way, way outside any "normal" realm of discussion on either issue.

He doesnt have to be a genius---Pelosi certainly wasnt. I think Jordan is plenty smart---but frankly, he just needs to be smarter than McCarthy---which aint hard. I actually think Jordan would be someone who might do a Contract With America type thing---though I dont know that you need that in a presidential election year. Typically in an presidential election year, the presidential candidate sets the agenda.

(10-04-2023 01:17 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  He doesnt have to be a genius---Pelosi certainly wasnt. I think Jordan is plenty smart---but frankly, he just needs to be smarter than McCarthy---which aint hard. I actually think Jordan would be someone who might do a Contract With America type thing---though I dont know that you need that in a presidential election year. Typically in an presidential election year, the presidential candidate sets the agenda.

If Trump is the presidential nominee, I think they are going to have to have some way to differentiate their congressional candidates from him. He just has too many negatives.

They have an excellent chance to take the senate, and perhaps expand their majority in the HOR to a workable level. Do that and they could at least keep 2025-26 from reachng the "stick a fork in the USA" stage.

(10-04-2023 01:58 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 01:17 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  He doesnt have to be a genius---Pelosi certainly wasnt. I think Jordan is plenty smart---but frankly, he just needs to be smarter than McCarthy---which aint hard. I actually think Jordan would be someone who might do a Contract With America type thing---though I dont know that you need that in a presidential election year. Typically in an presidential election year, the presidential candidate sets the agenda.

If Trump is the presidential nominee, I think they are going to have to have some way to differentiate their congressional candidates from him. He just has too many negatives.

They have an excellent chance to take the senate, and perhaps expand their majority in the HOR to a workable level. Do that and they could at least keep 2025-26 from reachng the "stick a fork in the USA" stage.

To be clear---I have no issues with a Contract With America type deal (I think its a great idea)--but they have to be reasonably on the same page as their presidential candidate or its not going to be very effective. I dont believe it would be that hard to find agreement on 5 to 10 agenda items that address key American issues that need to be dealt with.

The GOP is only concerned with soundbytes & owning the libs… which is why they party been easily hijacked by a fraudulent grifter.

They have no leadership or platform & are nothing more than a personality cult.

(10-04-2023 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The GOP is only concerned with soundbytes & owning the libs… which is why they party been easily hijacked by a fraudulent grifter.

They have no leadership or platform & are nothing more than a personality cult.

The fraudulent grifter that didn't take a paycheck and is facing countless indictments? Yeah, he's obviously involved in politics for the fame & fortune.

You're so dumb, it's laughable. I can't even get mad due to the level of stupidity.

(10-04-2023 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The GOP is only concerned with soundbytes & owning the libs… which is why they party been easily hijacked by a fraudulent grifter.

They have no leadership or platform & are nothing more than a personality cult.

LOL. Says the guy who's candidate hid in a basement and ran on returning to "normalacy" and "Uniting America". Once in office, he was not only supremely incompetent---he also ran the most divisive partisan revenge seeking banana Republic government in my lifetime. Not "normal" in any sense of the word. His breathtakingly extreme divisiveness reached its Emperor Palpatine zenith when he stood at a podium backlit in blood red light and attempted accuse any subject who voted for his opponent as an enemy of the Empire. Even now---when not only the general public---but even Democrats know he's an incompetent delusional nut job----Democrats still fully intend to ask voters to send the worst president in history back for 4 more horrific years. Fortunately for the dysfunctional messy GOP----they dont have to be great----they just have to be better than the Democrats.

(10-04-2023 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The GOP is only concerned with soundbytes & owning the libs… which is why they party been easily hijacked by a fraudulent grifter.

They have no leadership or platform & are nothing more than a personality cult.

Gaetz just proved you wrong.

Can you imagine any scenerio where the hige mind prog folth would break ranks

The grifters are named Biden

You are lost

(10-04-2023 10:13 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  This is cuck-gop in a nutshell. Good riddance.

and lulz at the "office space isnt important to me" comment. This is the same b*tch that was ordering new drapes and decor for that office months before the 2006 election when she thought she was going to be speaker. But things may have changed. She probably requested to be moved into the house liquor store.

The rule for whatever idiotic reason is the former speaker of the house gets an office in DC. Been this way for decades. Both Nancy Pelosi's whining about this and the people on the right who think something actually got done is dumb.

She's no longer the former speaker of the house. Therefore by house rules she no longer gets the office. It's really that simple.

Not sure why such a big deal has been made about something this stupid. Especially when the real question should be why the former speaker of the house needs a special office.

(10-04-2023 03:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The GOP is only concerned with soundbytes & owning the libs… which is why they party been easily hijacked by a fraudulent grifter.

They have no leadership or platform & are nothing more than a personality cult.

LOL. Says the guy who's candidate hid in a basement and ran on returning to "normalacy" and "Uniting America". Once in office, he was not only supremely incompetent---he also ran the most divisive partisan revenge seeking banana Republic government in my lifetime. Not "normal" in any sense of the word. His breathtakingly extreme divisiveness reached its Emperor Palpatine zenith when he stood at a podium backlit in blood red light and attempted accuse any subject who voted for his opponent as an enemy of the Empire. Even now---when not only the general public---but even Democrats know he's an incompetent delusional nut job----Democrats still fully intend to ask voters to send the worst president in history back for 4 more horrific years. Fortunately for the dysfunctional messy GOP----they dont have to be great----they just have to be better than the Democrats.

What’s not normal is the long & lengthy list of former staffers & cabinet members currently warning the American people to not again fall for the grift of their former boss.

(10-04-2023 06:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 03:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The GOP is only concerned with soundbytes & owning the libs… which is why they party been easily hijacked by a fraudulent grifter.

They have no leadership or platform & are nothing more than a personality cult.

LOL. Says the guy who's candidate hid in a basement and ran on returning to "normalacy" and "Uniting America". Once in office, he was not only supremely incompetent---he also ran the most divisive partisan revenge seeking banana Republic government in my lifetime. Not "normal" in any sense of the word. His breathtakingly extreme divisiveness reached its Emperor Palpatine zenith when he stood at a podium backlit in blood red light and attempted accuse any subject who voted for his opponent as an enemy of the Empire. Even now---when not only the general public---but even Democrats know he's an incompetent delusional nut job----Democrats still fully intend to ask voters to send the worst president in history back for 4 more horrific years. Fortunately for the dysfunctional messy GOP----they dont have to be great----they just have to be better than the Democrats.

What’s not normal is the long & lengthy list of former staffers & cabinet members currently warning the American people to not again fall for the grift of their former boss.

And yet everything was better under Trump.

Just curious, are these the same rock solid sources that said Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation? I'll let you in on the media's dirty little secret. You'll never get to hype your new book or get on TV as a guest if your there to say good things about Trump. The fake news DNC propaganda arm is what it is. The funny thing is---despite the media's relentless 24-7 anti-Trump spin cycle---Trump still leads Biden in the polls. That tells me more and more have figured out who the REAL grifters are.

(10-04-2023 07:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 06:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 03:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The GOP is only concerned with soundbytes & owning the libs… which is why they party been easily hijacked by a fraudulent grifter.

They have no leadership or platform & are nothing more than a personality cult.

LOL. Says the guy who's candidate hid in a basement and ran on returning to "normalacy" and "Uniting America". Once in office, he was not only supremely incompetent---he also ran the most divisive partisan revenge seeking banana Republic government in my lifetime. Not "normal" in any sense of the word. His breathtakingly extreme divisiveness reached its Emperor Palpatine zenith when he stood at a podium backlit in blood red light and attempted accuse any subject who voted for his opponent as an enemy of the Empire. Even now---when not only the general public---but even Democrats know he's an incompetent delusional nut job----Democrats still fully intend to ask voters to send the worst president in history back for 4 more horrific years. Fortunately for the dysfunctional messy GOP----they dont have to be great----they just have to be better than the Democrats.

What’s not normal is the long & lengthy list of former staffers & cabinet members currently warning the American people to not again fall for the grift of their former boss.

And yet everything was better under Trump.

Just curious, are these the same rock solid sources that said Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation? I'll let you in on the media's dirty little secret. You'll never get to hype your new book or get on TV as a guest if your there to say good things about Trump. The fake news DNC propaganda arm is what it is. The funny thing is---despite the media's relentless 24-7 anti-Trump spin cycle---Trump still leads Biden in the polls. That tells me more and more have figured out who the REAL grifters are.

comparing a world economy prior to 1.5 years of economic shutdown to conditions afterward is purposefully obtuse.

(10-04-2023 07:46 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 07:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 06:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 03:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The GOP is only concerned with soundbytes & owning the libs… which is why they party been easily hijacked by a fraudulent grifter.

They have no leadership or platform & are nothing more than a personality cult.

LOL. Says the guy who's candidate hid in a basement and ran on returning to "normalacy" and "Uniting America". Once in office, he was not only supremely incompetent---he also ran the most divisive partisan revenge seeking banana Republic government in my lifetime. Not "normal" in any sense of the word. His breathtakingly extreme divisiveness reached its Emperor Palpatine zenith when he stood at a podium backlit in blood red light and attempted accuse any subject who voted for his opponent as an enemy of the Empire. Even now---when not only the general public---but even Democrats know he's an incompetent delusional nut job----Democrats still fully intend to ask voters to send the worst president in history back for 4 more horrific years. Fortunately for the dysfunctional messy GOP----they dont have to be great----they just have to be better than the Democrats.

What’s not normal is the long & lengthy list of former staffers & cabinet members currently warning the American people to not again fall for the grift of their former boss.

And yet everything was better under Trump.

Just curious, are these the same rock solid sources that said Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation? I'll let you in on the media's dirty little secret. You'll never get to hype your new book or get on TV as a guest if your there to say good things about Trump. The fake news DNC propaganda arm is what it is. The funny thing is---despite the media's relentless 24-7 anti-Trump spin cycle---Trump still leads Biden in the polls. That tells me more and more have figured out who the REAL grifters are.

comparing a world economy prior to 1.5 years of economic shutdown to conditions afterward is purposefully obtuse.

Im saying two trillion dollars year in deficit spending is about as inflationary a policy as you can get. Im saying high energy bills are what happens when you declare war the fossil fuel industry. Im saying crazy "green" policies that make every appliance more expensive is bad for Joe Blow voter. Im saying pressuring the auto industry to make more $60K electric cars rather than pressuring them to make more cars under $20K is bad for the majority of Americans. None of that has anything to do with Covid. Thats simply bad policy.

(10-04-2023 07:46 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 07:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 06:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 03:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The GOP is only concerned with soundbytes & owning the libs… which is why they party been easily hijacked by a fraudulent grifter.

They have no leadership or platform & are nothing more than a personality cult.

LOL. Says the guy who's candidate hid in a basement and ran on returning to "normalacy" and "Uniting America". Once in office, he was not only supremely incompetent---he also ran the most divisive partisan revenge seeking banana Republic government in my lifetime. Not "normal" in any sense of the word. His breathtakingly extreme divisiveness reached its Emperor Palpatine zenith when he stood at a podium backlit in blood red light and attempted accuse any subject who voted for his opponent as an enemy of the Empire. Even now---when not only the general public---but even Democrats know he's an incompetent delusional nut job----Democrats still fully intend to ask voters to send the worst president in history back for 4 more horrific years. Fortunately for the dysfunctional messy GOP----they dont have to be great----they just have to be better than the Democrats.

What’s not normal is the long & lengthy list of former staffers & cabinet members currently warning the American people to not again fall for the grift of their former boss.

And yet everything was better under Trump.

Just curious, are these the same rock solid sources that said Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation? I'll let you in on the media's dirty little secret. You'll never get to hype your new book or get on TV as a guest if your there to say good things about Trump. The fake news DNC propaganda arm is what it is. The funny thing is---despite the media's relentless 24-7 anti-Trump spin cycle---Trump still leads Biden in the polls. That tells me more and more have figured out who the REAL grifters are.

comparing a world economy prior to 1.5 years of economic shutdown to conditions afterward is purposefully obtuse.

Are you admitting that the administration hasn’t done enough to solve these issues that they were elected to do?


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(10-04-2023 07:46 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 07:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 06:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 03:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The GOP is only concerned with soundbytes & owning the libs… which is why they party been easily hijacked by a fraudulent grifter.

They have no leadership or platform & are nothing more than a personality cult.

LOL. Says the guy who's candidate hid in a basement and ran on returning to "normalacy" and "Uniting America". Once in office, he was not only supremely incompetent---he also ran the most divisive partisan revenge seeking banana Republic government in my lifetime. Not "normal" in any sense of the word. His breathtakingly extreme divisiveness reached its Emperor Palpatine zenith when he stood at a podium backlit in blood red light and attempted accuse any subject who voted for his opponent as an enemy of the Empire. Even now---when not only the general public---but even Democrats know he's an incompetent delusional nut job----Democrats still fully intend to ask voters to send the worst president in history back for 4 more horrific years. Fortunately for the dysfunctional messy GOP----they dont have to be great----they just have to be better than the Democrats.

What’s not normal is the long & lengthy list of former staffers & cabinet members currently warning the American people to not again fall for the grift of their former boss.

And yet everything was better under Trump.

Just curious, are these the same rock solid sources that said Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation? I'll let you in on the media's dirty little secret. You'll never get to hype your new book or get on TV as a guest if your there to say good things about Trump. The fake news DNC propaganda arm is what it is. The funny thing is---despite the media's relentless 24-7 anti-Trump spin cycle---Trump still leads Biden in the polls. That tells me more and more have figured out who the REAL grifters are.

comparing a world economy prior to 1.5 years of economic shutdown to conditions afterward is purposefully obtuse.

Isn't this what Biden and his spokesperson have been doing for the past 2 years? Using numbers from when Covid was raging and comparing them to what Biden is now.

Such as-

(10-04-2023 11:54 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 11:48 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Like I said----I dont get the hand wringing over dumping McCarthy. He was a joke compared to Pelosi. Why stick with a QB that throws twice as many interceptions as completions? Not only will we find out the GOP will be just fine without McCarthy as Speaker----we're likely to see that we are much better off with the gavel in someone else's hands. Frankly, Im optimistic for the first time in a while as I have always thought it would be hard to do much worse than McCarthy. In my opinion----there is some real up side potential with this change.

Part of the reason he was so weak compared to Pelosi was those 10 members, however. They hold a lot of power because of how close the numbers are between Rs and Ds.

I don't hold a lot of hope that another speaker will be able to manage any better under this current House. It will be very hard to get anything done unless those 10 make concessions.

As long as those 10 continue to represent the will of the conservative base then I'm perfectly OK with them wreaking havoc in the good ol' boys club.

(10-04-2023 08:43 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 07:46 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 07:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 06:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 03:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  LOL. Says the guy who's candidate hid in a basement and ran on returning to "normalacy" and "Uniting America". Once in office, he was not only supremely incompetent---he also ran the most divisive partisan revenge seeking banana Republic government in my lifetime. Not "normal" in any sense of the word. His breathtakingly extreme divisiveness reached its Emperor Palpatine zenith when he stood at a podium backlit in blood red light and attempted accuse any subject who voted for his opponent as an enemy of the Empire. Even now---when not only the general public---but even Democrats know he's an incompetent delusional nut job----Democrats still fully intend to ask voters to send the worst president in history back for 4 more horrific years. Fortunately for the dysfunctional messy GOP----they dont have to be great----they just have to be better than the Democrats.

What’s not normal is the long & lengthy list of former staffers & cabinet members currently warning the American people to not again fall for the grift of their former boss.

And yet everything was better under Trump.

Just curious, are these the same rock solid sources that said Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation? I'll let you in on the media's dirty little secret. You'll never get to hype your new book or get on TV as a guest if your there to say good things about Trump. The fake news DNC propaganda arm is what it is. The funny thing is---despite the media's relentless 24-7 anti-Trump spin cycle---Trump still leads Biden in the polls. That tells me more and more have figured out who the REAL grifters are.

comparing a world economy prior to 1.5 years of economic shutdown to conditions afterward is purposefully obtuse.

Are you admitting that the administration hasn’t done enough to solve these issues that they were elected to do?


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you’ll NEVER find a dem with any solution outside of spending more…

#wasteOfTime

(10-04-2023 09:06 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 07:46 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 07:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 06:10 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(10-04-2023 03:51 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  LOL. Says the guy who's candidate hid in a basement and ran on returning to "normalacy" and "Uniting America". Once in office, he was not only supremely incompetent---he also ran the most divisive partisan revenge seeking banana Republic government in my lifetime. Not "normal" in any sense of the word. His breathtakingly extreme divisiveness reached its Emperor Palpatine zenith when he stood at a podium backlit in blood red light and attempted accuse any subject who voted for his opponent as an enemy of the Empire. Even now---when not only the general public---but even Democrats know he's an incompetent delusional nut job----Democrats still fully intend to ask voters to send the worst president in history back for 4 more horrific years. Fortunately for the dysfunctional messy GOP----they dont have to be great----they just have to be better than the Democrats.

What’s not normal is the long & lengthy list of former staffers & cabinet members currently warning the American people to not again fall for the grift of their former boss.

And yet everything was better under Trump.

Just curious, are these the same rock solid sources that said Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation? I'll let you in on the media's dirty little secret. You'll never get to hype your new book or get on TV as a guest if your there to say good things about Trump. The fake news DNC propaganda arm is what it is. The funny thing is---despite the media's relentless 24-7 anti-Trump spin cycle---Trump still leads Biden in the polls. That tells me more and more have figured out who the REAL grifters are.

comparing a world economy prior to 1.5 years of economic shutdown to conditions afterward is purposefully obtuse.

Isn't this what Biden and his spokesperson have been doing for the past 2 years? Using numbers from when Covid was raging and comparing them to what Biden is now.

Such as-

My god. Why lie.

Frame it as.....due to our policies people are getting back to work.

These morons lie when the truth is easier.

I hate prog filth