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RE: Social Justice Fallacies
(10-25-2023 03:15 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(10-25-2023 10:20 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  
(10-25-2023 08:59 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  The path to citizenship for green card workers (legal residents) would be something like this:

1. Apply to start the five year process. Don't just show up and say I been here a long time. The application starts the five year clock.
2. Provide tax returns for each of residence
3. Avoid being arrested and convicted, at least for felonies.
4. Take courses in American civics and/or pass a test, like current naturalized citizens
5. Learn English

I am glad you put the and there (emphasis added). I would hate (especially given the rather low standard required for and immense governmental discretion involved in arrests) to see someone penalized for an arrest which does not result in a conviction -- although there are plenty of misguided souls who would propose exactly that. It would be un-American, to put it mildly.

Yeah, originally I had just the "arrested", and then thought to myself, "That's not right".

Best edit ever! :)

But seriously: a good example of why it is both unwise and unfair to presume that the first thought that pops into a person's mind or the first utterance they make necessarily reflects their true thinking. My experience is that that presumption, though popular and superficially attractive (which is perhaps the same thing), is false more often than it is true.
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Pittsburgh public schools approve measure to instruct teachers on ‘White supremacy’ in math classes. The Board voted to shell out $50,000 for so-called 'antiracist math' workshops, which are actually racist in themselves.

Quote:"The purpose of this series is to equip educators who have completed the {so-called} Antiracist Math Workshop Series Edition 1 {which is actually racist, indoctrinates them to become even more racist and} to develop and lead towards a more cohesive and aligned math instruction praxis across classrooms, departments and schools {ensuring that Leftist racist policies and racist ideas perpetuate through more generations than they already have. Participants will learn how to train others in the topic of {so-called} antiracist math {i.e. train them how to be racist}, as well as how to identify issues of equity {i.e. promoting more racism} in math spaces," the school board tab added.

In 2021, the state of Oregon defended the "Pathways to Equitable Math Instruction" teacher training, which advises that a focus on finding the correct answer in class is an example of White supremacy infiltrating schools.

So, it seems these racists are focusing on Division in math. More and more publik skewls are not preparing their students to be productive members of society. A lost cause is the first thing that comes to mind. This is a sickening crime against society. So any answer at all is now the 'correct' (politically, that is) answer in math? If there ever was an example of dumbing down education, this is it
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Please someone tell me how/why math can possibly be racist?

I understand that context of some questions can speak to someone's background, but not necessarily their race... and the math is still the math
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(10-31-2023 04:00 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Please someone tell me how/why math can possibly be racist?

I understand that context of some questions can speak to someone's background, but not necessarily their race... and the math is still the math

Leftist Math works like this, Ham:
You ask that question = you are a racist and a bigot.
You point out the fallacies of the Left = you are a racist and a bigot.
You believe in Math as objectively true = you are a racist and a bigot.
You believe and profess objective truth = you are a racist and a bigot.

These Leftist people and their various corollary groups are deranged, that is why they promote all the deranged and destructive nonsensical "lifestyles" they do. It's one and the same. So, by Leftist standards, you are a racist and a bigot. Oh, and you have no right to argue or disagree with them, either: That's Leftist Math in a nutshell.
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RE: Social Justice Fallacies
(10-31-2023 04:00 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Please someone tell me how/why math can possibly be racist?

I understand that context of some questions can speak to someone's background, but not necessarily their race... and the math is still the math

Near as I can tell from reading about it - any topic that results in less than optimum outcomes for minorities is deemed racist.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2...-math-too/
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tired-...17#image=8

colorblindness is racist.

"Colorblindness is a racial ideology that suggests “the best way to end discrimination is by treating individuals as equally as possible, without regard to race, culture, or ethnicity."
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Wasn't sure where to put this story. https://www.thefire.org/news/university-...anti-hamas

Y'all have followed this issue with the USC professor engaging with a pro-Palestine rally? IMO pretty ridiculous that USC censured this professor at all.

Calls to classify his words as hate speech and calls for his suspension are way over-the top.

I thought this author broke it down pretty well with this:

"Universities should be places of free inquiry and debate. When Strauss encountered protesters espousing a message with which he disagreed, he engaged with them directly. This is exactly what should happen between those with opposing views. That the “heated exchange of ideas” once common on university campuses appears to be an alien experience for many at USC does not justify their interpreting disagreement and criticism as threatening, or giving countenance to their complaints against Strauss on that basis."
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You read the FIRE newsletter? I am in awe.
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(11-27-2023 04:50 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  You read the FIRE newsletter? I am in awe.

It's in the rotation especially when there is a free-speech issue in the news cycle. They have some good writers.
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One of the absolute best organizations out there.

Them and a place called Institute for Justice.
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