(06-29-2023 12:03 PM)steves Wrote:  Not counting the ACC schools ... DIV. 1 NC SCHOOLS ON!Y
1. Who has the best Hoops tradition
2. Who's been best recently
3. Who's got the best or biggest arena
4. Who's going to be the better team this coming season

This is a MENS BASKETBALL ONLY QUESTION !!!

1. Davidson - This was either Charlotte or Davidson.. but I chose Davidson because they have more NCAA tournament appearances, as well as conference titles.

2. Davidson - Once again they've been to the big dance more recently than Charlotte and was last there in 2022.

3. Charlotte - They have both the best and the biggest non-ACC NC team. The capacity is over 9K and the stadium is really respectable. (UNC-Greensoboro has the biggest stadium, but they curtain off the upper decks to have a capacity of around 8K. It is mainly used at full capacity of 35K+ for post season tournaments or huge neutral games.)

4. Davidson - This is a toss up. I would like to say ECU but I know that won't be true. Davidson has a better chance of reaching the NCAA tourney than either of ECU and Charlotte. I guess you could throw in UNC-W and UNC-G in there as well as having a better chance of reaching the tournament than The American NC teams.

Did Charlotte end up doing anything about its coaching vacancy? I've been way out of the loop since that announcement.

(06-29-2023 09:48 PM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 02:45 PM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 01:56 PM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  Assuming you mean all NC teams I would say

1. Davidson
2. UNCG
3. Charlotte
4. UNCW, UNCG, maybe even ECU?

I'm guessing you must be a Steph Curry fan because Davidson does NOT have a greater history than Charlotte. They have literally won NCAA Tournament games in exactly ONE SEASON since ~1970 and that was Steph's big year. BTW, we still beat them that season and have a big head-to-head series lead over them that dates back to 1979.

I'm not a Curry fan, just looking at it from the perspective of a basketball fan in NC. You do have the head to head but I was basing the tradition off of their team on regular season championships, tourney championships, ncaa appearances, sweet sixteen, elite eight, final four, etc...

It wasn't meant to be a direct comparison to UNC Charlotte.

That being said, they do have more of all of the above (minus the one final four you have to their zero) than Charlotte. I believe they have more of the above than any other NC team outside of the acc, which is why I went with them as having the tradition.

You need to check your NCAA stats again. Davidson was basically a crap Southern/Big South Conference program from the mid 70s through the early 2000s. They had one miracle season and have literally done nothing of note other than that, since the 60s. Davidson has NEVER been to a FF. Charlotte has. Davidson (IIRC) has NEVER garnered an at-large NCAA bid. Charlotte has multiple. In the last 50 years, Davidson has won NCAA tournament games in exactly one season. Charlotte has done that multiple times. There is no measure where they are the better program "historically". Like a lot of people, you seem to have "blown the Curry season" up so much that you may honestly believe their history is much greater than it actually is.

(06-29-2023 12:03 PM)steves Wrote:  Not counting the ACC schools ... DIV. 1 NC SCHOOLS ON!Y
1. Who has the best Hoops tradition
2. Who's been best recently
3. Who's got the best or biggest arena
4. Who's going to be the better team this coming season

This is a MENS BASKETBALL ONLY QUESTION !!!

Are you asking between ECU and UNCC? The answer is UNCC easily. Overall the best in NC outside of ACC schools is Davidson.

(06-30-2023 09:31 AM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 09:48 PM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 02:45 PM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 01:56 PM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  Assuming you mean all NC teams I would say

1. Davidson
2. UNCG
3. Charlotte
4. UNCW, UNCG, maybe even ECU?

I'm guessing you must be a Steph Curry fan because Davidson does NOT have a greater history than Charlotte. They have literally won NCAA Tournament games in exactly ONE SEASON since ~1970 and that was Steph's big year. BTW, we still beat them that season and have a big head-to-head series lead over them that dates back to 1979.

I'm not a Curry fan, just looking at it from the perspective of a basketball fan in NC. You do have the head to head but I was basing the tradition off of their team on regular season championships, tourney championships, ncaa appearances, sweet sixteen, elite eight, final four, etc...

It wasn't meant to be a direct comparison to UNC Charlotte.

That being said, they do have more of all of the above (minus the one final four you have to their zero) than Charlotte. I believe they have more of the above than any other NC team outside of the acc, which is why I went with them as having the tradition.

You need to check your NCAA stats again. Davidson was basically a crap Southern/Big South Conference program from the mid 70s through the early 2000s. They had one miracle season and have literally done nothing of note other than that, since the 60s. Davidson has NEVER been to a FF. Charlotte has. Davidson (IIRC) has NEVER garnered an at-large NCAA bid. Charlotte has multiple. In the last 50 years, Davidson has won NCAA tournament games in exactly one season. Charlotte has done that multiple times. There is no measure where they are the better program "historically". Like a lot of people, you seem to have "blown the Curry season" up so much that you may honestly believe their history is much greater than it actually is.

You realize you can say the same about UNCC except replace the 60s for the 70s, right?

Personally I would give UNCC the nod on history since I think 1 FF run is better than 3 EE runs, but Davidson has definitely been the more consistently good non ACC program over the history of college basketball in NC.

(06-30-2023 10:05 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(06-30-2023 09:31 AM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 09:48 PM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 02:45 PM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 01:56 PM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  Assuming you mean all NC teams I would say

1. Davidson
2. UNCG
3. Charlotte
4. UNCW, UNCG, maybe even ECU?

I'm guessing you must be a Steph Curry fan because Davidson does NOT have a greater history than Charlotte. They have literally won NCAA Tournament games in exactly ONE SEASON since ~1970 and that was Steph's big year. BTW, we still beat them that season and have a big head-to-head series lead over them that dates back to 1979.

I'm not a Curry fan, just looking at it from the perspective of a basketball fan in NC. You do have the head to head but I was basing the tradition off of their team on regular season championships, tourney championships, ncaa appearances, sweet sixteen, elite eight, final four, etc...

It wasn't meant to be a direct comparison to UNC Charlotte.

That being said, they do have more of all of the above (minus the one final four you have to their zero) than Charlotte. I believe they have more of the above than any other NC team outside of the acc, which is why I went with them as having the tradition.

You need to check your NCAA stats again. Davidson was basically a crap Southern/Big South Conference program from the mid 70s through the early 2000s. They had one miracle season and have literally done nothing of note other than that, since the 60s. Davidson has NEVER been to a FF. Charlotte has. Davidson (IIRC) has NEVER garnered an at-large NCAA bid. Charlotte has multiple. In the last 50 years, Davidson has won NCAA tournament games in exactly one season. Charlotte has done that multiple times. There is no measure where they are the better program "historically". Like a lot of people, you seem to have "blown the Curry season" up so much that you may honestly believe their history is much greater than it actually is.

You realize you can say the same about UNCC except replace the 60s for the 70s, right?

Personally I would give UNCC the nod on history since I think 1 FF run is better than 3 EE runs, but Davidson has definitely been the more consistently good non ACC program over the history of college basketball in NC.

Thats why I went with Davidson overall. I am not stuck on one Curry season. I am looking at numbers only. I am not a fan of Davidson or Curry and it is not coming into play in my decision to give Davidson the tradition nod.

Charlotte has 1 Final Four to Davidson's 0
Davidson has 3 Elite Eight to Charlotte's 1
Davidson has 4 Sweet Sixteen to Charlotte's 1
Charlotte has 5 Second round to Davidson's 4
Davidson has 15 NCAA appearances to Charlotte's 11

Davidson has 13 Conf. Tourney Championships to Charlotte's 7
Davidson has 25 Regular Season Conf Titles to Charlotte's 5

Charlotte has the head to head for sure but since this isn't a direct comparison of the two and more of an "outside the acc" I went with Davidson. They have the better resume.

Also, we cant erase a run in the 60s because it helps your argument. He didn't ask for best tradition since 1976.

(06-30-2023 09:23 AM)Auburn_Blazer Wrote:  Did Charlotte end up doing anything about its coaching vacancy? I've been way out of the loop since that announcement.

Associate Head Coach Aaron Fearne to serve as Interim Head Coach this season. Fearne has previously worked as a Head Coach in Australia's NBL. I have a gut feeling he's going to do a good job and be seriously considered to keep the position at the end of the season.

(06-30-2023 10:05 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(06-30-2023 09:31 AM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 09:48 PM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 02:45 PM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 01:56 PM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  Assuming you mean all NC teams I would say

1. Davidson
2. UNCG
3. Charlotte
4. UNCW, UNCG, maybe even ECU?

I'm guessing you must be a Steph Curry fan because Davidson does NOT have a greater history than Charlotte. They have literally won NCAA Tournament games in exactly ONE SEASON since ~1970 and that was Steph's big year. BTW, we still beat them that season and have a big head-to-head series lead over them that dates back to 1979.

I'm not a Curry fan, just looking at it from the perspective of a basketball fan in NC. You do have the head to head but I was basing the tradition off of their team on regular season championships, tourney championships, ncaa appearances, sweet sixteen, elite eight, final four, etc...

It wasn't meant to be a direct comparison to UNC Charlotte.

That being said, they do have more of all of the above (minus the one final four you have to their zero) than Charlotte. I believe they have more of the above than any other NC team outside of the acc, which is why I went with them as having the tradition.

You need to check your NCAA stats again. Davidson was basically a crap Southern/Big South Conference program from the mid 70s through the early 2000s. They had one miracle season and have literally done nothing of note other than that, since the 60s. Davidson has NEVER been to a FF. Charlotte has. Davidson (IIRC) has NEVER garnered an at-large NCAA bid. Charlotte has multiple. In the last 50 years, Davidson has won NCAA tournament games in exactly one season. Charlotte has done that multiple times. There is no measure where they are the better program "historically". Like a lot of people, you seem to have "blown the Curry season" up so much that you may honestly believe their history is much greater than it actually is.

You realize you can say the same about UNCC except replace the 60s for the 70s, right?

Personally I would give UNCC the nod on history since I think 1 FF run is better than 3 EE runs, but Davidson has definitely been the more consistently good non ACC program over the history of college basketball in NC.

100% UNtrue, as with 99% of your posts about Charlotte. Charlotte was an NCAA regular in the 90s and early 2000s and were getting at-large bids and winning games in the tourney (not occasionally winning some bottom of the barrel SoCon tourney to get in as a 15 seed).

(06-30-2023 12:36 PM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  

(06-30-2023 10:05 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(06-30-2023 09:31 AM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 09:48 PM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 02:45 PM)PSCNiner Wrote:  I'm guessing you must be a Steph Curry fan because Davidson does NOT have a greater history than Charlotte. They have literally won NCAA Tournament games in exactly ONE SEASON since ~1970 and that was Steph's big year. BTW, we still beat them that season and have a big head-to-head series lead over them that dates back to 1979.

I'm not a Curry fan, just looking at it from the perspective of a basketball fan in NC. You do have the head to head but I was basing the tradition off of their team on regular season championships, tourney championships, ncaa appearances, sweet sixteen, elite eight, final four, etc...

It wasn't meant to be a direct comparison to UNC Charlotte.

That being said, they do have more of all of the above (minus the one final four you have to their zero) than Charlotte. I believe they have more of the above than any other NC team outside of the acc, which is why I went with them as having the tradition.

You need to check your NCAA stats again. Davidson was basically a crap Southern/Big South Conference program from the mid 70s through the early 2000s. They had one miracle season and have literally done nothing of note other than that, since the 60s. Davidson has NEVER been to a FF. Charlotte has. Davidson (IIRC) has NEVER garnered an at-large NCAA bid. Charlotte has multiple. In the last 50 years, Davidson has won NCAA tournament games in exactly one season. Charlotte has done that multiple times. There is no measure where they are the better program "historically". Like a lot of people, you seem to have "blown the Curry season" up so much that you may honestly believe their history is much greater than it actually is.

You realize you can say the same about UNCC except replace the 60s for the 70s, right?

Personally I would give UNCC the nod on history since I think 1 FF run is better than 3 EE runs, but Davidson has definitely been the more consistently good non ACC program over the history of college basketball in NC.

Thats why I went with Davidson overall. I am not stuck on one Curry season. I am looking at numbers only. I am not a fan of Davidson or Curry and it is not coming into play in my decision to give Davidson the tradition nod.

Charlotte has 1 Final Four to Davidson's 0
Davidson has 3 Elite Eight to Charlotte's 1
Davidson has 4 Sweet Sixteen to Charlotte's 1
Charlotte has 5 Second round to Davidson's 4
Davidson has 15 NCAA appearances to Charlotte's 11

Davidson has 13 Conf. Tourney Championships to Charlotte's 7
Davidson has 25 Regular Season Conf Titles to Charlotte's 5

Charlotte has the head to head for sure but since this isn't a direct comparison of the two and more of an "outside the acc" I went with Davidson. They have the better resume.

Also, we cant erase a run in the 60s because it helps your argument. He didn't ask for best tradition since 1976.

haha----good try----- Charlotte didn't become D1 until the 70s (1970s is widely considered the modern era), so maybe we should say that once we did, we put a stop to Davidson's 1960s runs. What a joke. Also, NCAA tourneys didn't become what they are now until the 70s. Hell, the NIT was considered by many to be as big a deal as the NCAA until the mid 70s......sort of takes the 'starch" out of a 1960s "run" doesn't it.

(06-30-2023 02:02 PM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(06-30-2023 12:36 PM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  

(06-30-2023 10:05 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(06-30-2023 09:31 AM)PSCNiner Wrote:  

(06-29-2023 09:48 PM)Thelonious Jerk Wrote:  I'm not a Curry fan, just looking at it from the perspective of a basketball fan in NC. You do have the head to head but I was basing the tradition off of their team on regular season championships, tourney championships, ncaa appearances, sweet sixteen, elite eight, final four, etc...

It wasn't meant to be a direct comparison to UNC Charlotte.

That being said, they do have more of all of the above (minus the one final four you have to their zero) than Charlotte. I believe they have more of the above than any other NC team outside of the acc, which is why I went with them as having the tradition.

You need to check your NCAA stats again. Davidson was basically a crap Southern/Big South Conference program from the mid 70s through the early 2000s. They had one miracle season and have literally done nothing of note other than that, since the 60s. Davidson has NEVER been to a FF. Charlotte has. Davidson (IIRC) has NEVER garnered an at-large NCAA bid. Charlotte has multiple. In the last 50 years, Davidson has won NCAA tournament games in exactly one season. Charlotte has done that multiple times. There is no measure where they are the better program "historically". Like a lot of people, you seem to have "blown the Curry season" up so much that you may honestly believe their history is much greater than it actually is.

You realize you can say the same about UNCC except replace the 60s for the 70s, right?

Personally I would give UNCC the nod on history since I think 1 FF run is better than 3 EE runs, but Davidson has definitely been the more consistently good non ACC program over the history of college basketball in NC.

Thats why I went with Davidson overall. I am not stuck on one Curry season. I am looking at numbers only. I am not a fan of Davidson or Curry and it is not coming into play in my decision to give Davidson the tradition nod.

Charlotte has 1 Final Four to Davidson's 0
Davidson has 3 Elite Eight to Charlotte's 1
Davidson has 4 Sweet Sixteen to Charlotte's 1
Charlotte has 5 Second round to Davidson's 4
Davidson has 15 NCAA appearances to Charlotte's 11

Davidson has 13 Conf. Tourney Championships to Charlotte's 7
Davidson has 25 Regular Season Conf Titles to Charlotte's 5

Charlotte has the head to head for sure but since this isn't a direct comparison of the two and more of an "outside the acc" I went with Davidson. They have the better resume.

Also, we cant erase a run in the 60s because it helps your argument. He didn't ask for best tradition since 1976.

haha----good try----- Charlotte didn't become D1 until the 70s (1970s is widely considered the modern era), so maybe we should say that once we did, we put a stop to Davidson's 1960s runs. What a joke. Also, NCAA tourneys didn't become what they are now until the 70s. Hell, the NIT was considered by many to be as big a deal as the NCAA until the mid 70s......sort of takes the 'starch" out of a 1960s "run" doesn't it.

The modern era doesn't concern me or the argument. The question didn't ask about the modern era.

Do none of the national championships that happened before the 70s count? UCLA may argue against having 5 of their titles taken away. UK would argue against losing half of their titles.

And just because Charlotte wasn't D1 at the time doesn't take away from Davidson winning in that time period.

I enjoy our annual game with Davidson, and I think their recently retired coach Bob McKillop was a great coach who figured out how to milk the international player market like few others. Can his son, Matt McKillop, continue the success? It seems to rarely happen. Even with Charlotte's recent run of lousy seasons we lead the series 31-18, and it seems likely we will get better, and unless Matt Mckillop becomes a HOF coach then they will get worse. I predict the 49ers continue to dominate the Mildcats over time in the battle for the ugliest trophy in sports.

clt says davidson had a heck of a run with steven curry, but this isn't even a discussion.

(06-30-2023 12:41 PM)TrackSuitAndTie Wrote:  

(06-30-2023 09:23 AM)Auburn_Blazer Wrote:  Did Charlotte end up doing anything about its coaching vacancy? I've been way out of the loop since that announcement.

Associate Head Coach Aaron Fearne to serve as Interim Head Coach this season. Fearne has previously worked as a Head Coach in Australia's NBL. I have a gut feeling he's going to do a good job and be seriously considered to keep the position at the end of the season.

You’re more optimistic than I am. If we hadn’t lost our two best players I’d be excited for this season.

(07-01-2023 07:40 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(06-30-2023 12:41 PM)TrackSuitAndTie Wrote:  

(06-30-2023 09:23 AM)Auburn_Blazer Wrote:  Did Charlotte end up doing anything about its coaching vacancy? I've been way out of the loop since that announcement.

Associate Head Coach Aaron Fearne to serve as Interim Head Coach this season. Fearne has previously worked as a Head Coach in Australia's NBL. I have a gut feeling he's going to do a good job and be seriously considered to keep the position at the end of the season.

You’re more optimistic than I am. If we hadn’t lost our two best players I’d be excited for this season.

Look forward to the in state rivalry. We need the help badly.

Can you catch me up on 49er basketball? Who did you lose? What's back? Who did you add? Is there a search for a new coach currently?

Welcome to the AAC!!

(07-01-2023 07:40 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(06-30-2023 12:41 PM)TrackSuitAndTie Wrote:  

(06-30-2023 09:23 AM)Auburn_Blazer Wrote:  Did Charlotte end up doing anything about its coaching vacancy? I've been way out of the loop since that announcement.

Associate Head Coach Aaron Fearne to serve as Interim Head Coach this season. Fearne has previously worked as a Head Coach in Australia's NBL. I have a gut feeling he's going to do a good job and be seriously considered to keep the position at the end of the season.

You’re more optimistic than I am. If we hadn’t lost our two best players I’d be excited for this season.

Yeah, it's more a feeling than actual conviction in the team's success. It will be incredibly difficult to replace Khalifa and Williams.

That being said, Lu'Cye Patterson is a solid lead guard. Dishon Jackson could be very solid up front as well if he can stay healthy. The same goes for Robert Braswell on the wing.

How many scholarships does Charlotte currently have open?

We lost leading scorer Brice Williams. This one particularly hurt becwuse his dad is the all time scoring leader for the school. Rumor is Nebraska gave him $150k in NIL though.

Aly Khalifa, our starting center, transferred to BYU. Aly had exceptional court vision and our offense largely ran through him making laser sharp passes from the high post. He was adequate inside and a pretty good three point shooter.

Khalifa may not be as big of a loss if the interim coach changes the style of play, which he said he will. Sanchez’s style is not the same as the style he coached when we was a HC in Australia professional basketball league.

Losing Williams hurts though. He was an excellent three point shooter and was good, and still improving getting to the basket as well. With him, I think we’d be a top half of the league team. Without him, I can’t see us finishing better than double digits.


One wild card could be the transfer center we got from Washington state. He has been plagued by injuries most of his career, however. He was a four star guy out of high school and has had some good games when he’s actually been healthy enough to play. He’s a gamble, but sometimes those work out. We once took a player named Joseph uchebo who spent most of his career injured at Pitt. In his one year at Charlotte he stayed healthy though and I believe he set the school rebounding record (for a season) as well as being an effective option on offense. If dishon Jackson can stay healthy we might be a decent team, but I’m pessimistic about this season.

clt says we are bigly tall, and will have a new offense.

previous offense was pass, dribble, pass, pass, dribble, last second shot

(07-01-2023 10:19 AM)Niner National Wrote:  We lost leading scorer Brice Williams. This one particularly hurt becwuse his dad is the all time scoring leader for the school. Rumor is Nebraska gave him $150k in NIL though.

Aly Khalifa, our starting center, transferred to BYU. Aly had exceptional court vision and our offense largely ran through him making laser sharp passes from the high post. He was adequate inside and a pretty good three point shooter.

Khalifa may not be as big of a loss if the interim coach changes the style of play, which he said he will. Sanchez’s style is not the same as the style he coached when we was a HC in Australia professional basketball league.

Losing Williams hurts though. He was an excellent three point shooter and was good, and still improving getting to the basket as well. With him, I think we’d be a top half of the league team. Without him, I can’t see us finishing better than double digits.


One wild card could be the transfer center we got from Washington state. He has been plagued by injuries most of his career, however. He was a four star guy out of high school and has had some good games when he’s actually been healthy enough to play. He’s a gamble, but sometimes those work out. We once took a player named Joseph uchebo who spent most of his career injured at Pitt. In his one year at Charlotte he stayed healthy though and I believe he set the school rebounding record (for a season) as well as being an effective option on offense. If dishon Jackson can stay healthy we might be a decent team, but I’m pessimistic about this season.

Man losing a legacy player and leading scorer hurts bigtime. Hate the portal.

Same thing happened to us with our point guard Javon Small who lead the team in scoring our first 20 games and then got injured. He told the staff the whole time he was coming back and first day he could he hit the portal winding up at OKlahoma State. Told the staff all the good players leave here.

We do have the rest of the guys back absent a couple of role playing seniors. It's a matter if our guys can grow as players this offseason. If they do they have a good chemistry together.

I can’t be good unless I go come off the bench for another team that won’t make the ncaa tournament!