(10-25-2022 12:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Some of the AZ guys are wearing masks, covering their license plates, and reportedly had weapons while patrolling a box that already has cameras fixed on it and may have been within the restricted area. That's not observing, and YOU know that. There's also been complaints of intimidation lodged. Those complaints need to be investigated.

Curious though, what there the black guys convicted of?

And again, nowhere have I stated that the black guys didn't something illegal. But IIRC, there was really no case as there were no complainants.

So let's use a little logic here Tom... I know that's tough for you but try and follow

1) so now that you've failed to address the OP and you try and deflect to PA and THAT fails, you're 'whatabouting' again to AZ??

Good lord, Tom. I'm getting dizzy from the spin

2) No complaints?? Apparently someone (in what is by your own admission a significantly majority minority community) felt sufficiently intimidated to record their presence and file a complaint strong enough to have at least one of them confronted and removed IN THE MOMENT. Based on your accusations, I'm surprised they weren't shot on the spot.

3) any evidence of your claim? I hear you say a lot of 'reported'... Well, we ALL know how 'Karen' sees the world... and it's not through a reality lens. LOTS of people wearing masks, Tom.,.. and all your people have cameras on their phone. While I don't care about reading about it here because it has nothing to do with the OP, other than the similar lack of evidence, we ALL know that your side 'makes up' things to be intimidated or afraid of. Micro-aggressions as an example.... which are by definition so slight as to be immaterial, yet such things are the entire point of many leftists.

(10-25-2022 12:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(10-25-2022 11:24 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  ...in front of a building where they have no apparent legitimate reason to be standing...

So, black guys need a reason to stand on a public sidewalk?

True insanity indeed...and probably a little something else...

Once again, your racism shows. They're not seniors so they don't live there. There is no public service being performed there except voting, and they don't appear to be there to vote...

When I left that door open before that they COULD have been voting and this is a picture of them walking out, you accused me of denying that voter intimidation is illegal... so now when I say it APPEARS that they have no legitimate reason to be there, you accuse me of racism??

**** you, Tom.

(10-25-2022 12:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You're an idiot.

This wasn't directed at me, but when this and his spinning and flip flopping at me and charges of racism is all he has, it demonstrates how truly pitiful he is.

So the butthurt liberals filed a federal lawsuit for an injunction and the judge told them to piss up a rope today.

Denied.

The judge said that no evidence was provided to prove that Melody Jennings, founder of Clean Elections USA, or its members had done anything to reach a level considered to be threatening, or otherwise illegal.

Sky screaming to follow.

I had to drop my ballot at a Dropbox since I’ll be out of town. The one here is located at the police station and only one ballot could fit in the slot. There’s also a camera on the box.

That being said I pulled up got out and dropped my ballot in. There was a car behind me and both people had their phones out and pointed at me. I stopped. Smiled and waved.

No harm no foul

(10-30-2022 07:23 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I had to drop my ballot at a Dropbox since I’ll be out of town. The one here is located at the police station and only one ballot could fit in the slot. There’s also a camera on the box.

That being said I pulled up got out and dropped my ballot in. There was a car behind me and both people had their phones out and pointed at me. I stopped. Smiled and waved.

No harm no foul

So it is almost like if you aren’t doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about?


That’s just nonsense

(10-31-2022 02:15 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(10-30-2022 07:23 AM)gdunn Wrote:  I had to drop my ballot at a Dropbox since I’ll be out of town. The one here is located at the police station and only one ballot could fit in the slot. There’s also a camera on the box.

That being said I pulled up got out and dropped my ballot in. There was a car behind me and both people had their phones out and pointed at me. I stopped. Smiled and waved.

No harm no foul

So it is almost like if you aren’t doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about?


That’s just nonsense

Yea.. Crazy right?

I guess a federal judge was triggered as well, restraining order to stop voter intimidation tactics.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-el...-rcna55170

Lol
PLEASE do the click on Libturdies link above to Liburdies order in the story linked.
“Can’t yell at anyone within 75 feet of a drop box”… Mkay, I’ll step out to 77.5

MUH MO Dumbassery.

It’s astonishing. Kinda

From the same article cited in post 46:

"It is legal to deposit the ballot of a family member, household member, or person for whom you are the caregiver."

Sure, that is understandable. So that might be a few extra ballots carried in one hand if a person is bringing the ballots of their elderly parents, injured friend, etc.

It should NOT be a Hefty trash bag of about 250 ballots dumped in the wee hours of the morning under the cover of darkness.

Plus recording all car tags outside 75 feet is absolutely legitimate.

IF YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG (voters) YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT................

(11-03-2022 03:57 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Lol
PLEASE do the click on Libturdies link above to Liburdies order in the story linked.
“Can’t yell at anyone within 75 feet of a drop box”… Mkay, I’ll step out to 77.5

MUH MO Dumbassery.

It’s astonishing. Kinda

Prohibited from being armed or wearing body armor within 250 feet, which was one of the main voter intimidation complaints. It’s astonishing that you didn’t read the first line in the article.

(11-03-2022 07:43 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 03:57 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Lol
PLEASE do the click on Libturdies link above to Liburdies order in the story linked.
“Can’t yell at anyone within 75 feet of a drop box”… Mkay, I’ll step out to 77.5

MUH MO Dumbassery.

It’s astonishing. Kinda

Prohibited from being armed or wearing body armor within 250 feet, which was one of the main voter intimidation complaints. It’s astonishing that you didn’t read the first line in the article.

Its astonishing that you should have anything to worry about if you are not violating any voting rules either.

(11-03-2022 07:48 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 07:43 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 03:57 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Lol
PLEASE do the click on Libturdies link above to Liburdies order in the story linked.
“Can’t yell at anyone within 75 feet of a drop box”… Mkay, I’ll step out to 77.5

MUH MO Dumbassery.

It’s astonishing. Kinda

Prohibited from being armed or wearing body armor within 250 feet, which was one of the main voter intimidation complaints. It’s astonishing that you didn’t read the first line in the article.

Its astonishing that you should have anything to worry about if you are not violating any voting rules either.

Let's explore that thought. Think about Florida. Say you are a legal voter who may have served jail time in the past. You read the stories about the governor arresting folks. Now you see armed or dressed-up military looking guys watching a drop box. You can't see how it might be possible for even just one voter to be intimidated in that situation and decide not to take a risk and cast his perfectly legal vote?

Not saying it would be a common occurrence, but if it happened even once, it's wrong.

(11-03-2022 08:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 07:48 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 07:43 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 03:57 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Lol
PLEASE do the click on Libturdies link above to Liburdies order in the story linked.
“Can’t yell at anyone within 75 feet of a drop box”… Mkay, I’ll step out to 77.5

MUH MO Dumbassery.

It’s astonishing. Kinda

Prohibited from being armed or wearing body armor within 250 feet, which was one of the main voter intimidation complaints. It’s astonishing that you didn’t read the first line in the article.

Its astonishing that you should have anything to worry about if you are not violating any voting rules either.

Let's explore that thought. Think about Florida. Say you are a legal voter who may have served jail time in the past. You read the stories about the governor arresting folks. Now you see armed or dressed-up military looking guys watching a drop box. You can't see how it might be possible for even just one voter to be intimidated in that situation and decide not to take a risk and cast his perfectly legal vote?

Not saying it would be a common occurrence, but if it happened even once, it's wrong.

Sure - or lets say that you are a person working at a nursing home and you collect 30 or 40 ballots - you know to be a good samaritan. But that is not really allowed under the law. So you decide to go late at night when nobody is watching and slip all those ballots in.

Not saying it would be a common occurrence, but if it happened even once, it's wrong.



It's kinda funny how you now seem to be on the side of - if it happens even only once it is wrong - but I did not hear you ringing that bell in the Maricopa thread or anyplace else it was shown to happen "only once".

(11-03-2022 09:44 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 08:15 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 07:48 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 07:43 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 03:57 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Lol
PLEASE do the click on Libturdies link above to Liburdies order in the story linked.
“Can’t yell at anyone within 75 feet of a drop box”… Mkay, I’ll step out to 77.5

MUH MO Dumbassery.

It’s astonishing. Kinda

Prohibited from being armed or wearing body armor within 250 feet, which was one of the main voter intimidation complaints. It’s astonishing that you didn’t read the first line in the article.

Its astonishing that you should have anything to worry about if you are not violating any voting rules either.

Let's explore that thought. Think about Florida. Say you are a legal voter who may have served jail time in the past. You read the stories about the governor arresting folks. Now you see armed or dressed-up military looking guys watching a drop box. You can't see how it might be possible for even just one voter to be intimidated in that situation and decide not to take a risk and cast his perfectly legal vote?

Not saying it would be a common occurrence, but if it happened even once, it's wrong.

Sure - or lets say that you are a person working at a nursing home and you collect 30 or 40 ballots - you know to be a good samaritan. But that is not really allowed under the law. So you decide to go late at night when nobody is watching and slip all those ballots in.

Not saying it would be a common occurrence, but if it happened even once, it's wrong.

It's kinda funny how you now seem to be on the side of - if it happens even only once it is wrong - but I did not hear you ringing that bell in the Maricopa thread or anyplace else it was shown to happen "only once".

Dude, pretty sure every drop box has video surveillance. And they're also designed to only allow for one ballot to be inserted at a time. Someone putting in that many ballots would be there for several minutes and all would be on video.

And if you're one of the 2000 mules mopes, I don't believe they ever showed one supposed mule visiting more than one drop box as their conspiracy claims.

Finally, if a state does not allow ballot harvesting or submission of ballots at drop boxes or polling locations by anyone but a family member, and someone drops off multiple ballots, they should be arrested accordingly. Nowhere would I ever defend a violation of the law like that.

(11-03-2022 09:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Finally, if a state does not allow ballot harvesting or submission of ballots at drop boxes or polling locations by anyone but a family member, and someone drops off multiple ballots, they should be arrested accordingly. Nowhere would I ever defend a violation of the law like that.

Tell me how you'd do that? How would you know which ballots they dropped off? How would you know who they were if they did anything to conceal their identity... which would have been easy during the pandemic.

I see you dropped off what appears to be 25 ballots, Mr Jones... can you explain that?

Wasn't me. I refuse to answer any questions. Am I free to go?

Ok... um... PLEASE admit to this crime because not only can I not fix the error since I don't know which ballots are legit and which are not, but in lots of cases, I may not even know 'beyond a reasonable doubt' (especially if you live in a district that leans stringly your way) that it was you or exactly how many ballots you dropped.... so PLEASE, admit to this crime? Pretty please?

It's always great to have people support laws that can't reasonably be enforced.... like how its illegal to drive drunk... but people do it all the time because you can't possibly police everyone at all times. We probably only catch about 2% of drunk drivers, and prosecute even fewer... and that's a crime that can last/be detected/be reported for hours, not just moments.

Our controls to prevent fraudulent voting are inadequate. That is an informed conclusion, based upon lessons learned from a 50-year career with a heavy focus on physical and information security, both in the military and civilian spheres.

Yes, I claim to be an expert in those areas, and justifiably so, and that is an expert analysis of the situation.

(11-03-2022 04:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Our controls to prevent fraudulent voting are inadequate. That is an informed conclusion, based upon lessons learned from a 50-year career with a heavy focus on physical and information security, both in the military and civilian spheres.

Yes, I claim to be an expert in those areas, and justifiably so, and that is an expert analysis of the situation.

yes, si, and Ja!

the concern is it’s by design…

For all their forethought and foresight, trying to plan for every contingency man’s evil heart could think in our Constitution, our forefathers never planned for candidates, campaigns or voters who would actually cheat to win an election.

There’s something to be said about how far as a society that we’ve fallen.

“We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes, And Our Sacred Honor.”

Probably strange for people today to see something like honor mentioned with the same importance as life and wealth in our Declaration of Independence. Honor used to mean something. Just as oaths and promised meant something. People today think nothing of placing their hand on The Bible and swearing to tell the truth than proceeding to lie or tell half truths.

Sad what our country has become. Sometimes I wonder if it’s worth saving.